Who killed 9/11 author Philip Marshall (and his teen age kids)?

originally posted by: desert
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He never said anything about 9/11 that was ground breaking or new...

Could you elaborate, with a few specifics, what exactly Marshall said about 9/11 ? Thanks!

This interview on Coast to Coast with John B Wells covers many specifics. Likely got him and his kids killed. Lots of information listen closely easy to miss details, as it is a long interview. He was much too close to the truth. Had to kill him.

Google Philip Marshal John B Wells on UTube. I can't post it on this controlled site. The video name is THE BIG BAMBOOZLE: 9/11 and the War on Terror by Philip Marshall.

Another great interview on UTube.


Phillip Marshall on the September 11 Attacks

Whitley asks long time airline pilot Phillip Marshall about why it was that scantily trained terrorists could have executed the highly skilled flight maneuvers that were needed to bring of the 911 attacks--and you'd better be sitting down when you hear his expert opinion.

It would be so incredibly easy to pull off a hit like that. A normal person would get away with it but the government could get away with it with no questions asked.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Thats one of the best interviews John B. Wells ever did...

Easily found on Youtube. Much better info than in the video on the first page.

As for what happened to the guy and his family..it is rather mysterious. He sounds nothing but legit and on point during the above mentioned interview.

a reply to: lovebeck

Woah...

Look at the post number in my comment above...

Creepy.


WTF? It said 911 and switched to 912??

originally posted by: desert
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
He never said anything about 9/11 that was ground breaking or new...

Could you elaborate, with a few specifics, what exactly Marshall said about 9/11 ? Thanks!

Well I have not read his book yet but i have read quite a few reviews and heard him being interviewed so i know he was pretty big on the idea of Saudi involvement. This is actually something that I am researching just now so while i do think he took the Saudi role a little too far I still find his interviews interesting but its all stuff that was in the public domain. I also know he was pretty vocal about the skill of the piolets , again, nothing new.

Regardless this thread is about the allegation that he was assassinated rather than this was just a very sad Suicide/murder.

This has been discussed on ATS before, there was no evidence to support the idea that this was a assassination then and there isn't now.

All there seems to be is paranoid speculation.

That does not prove a thing

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

And thank you for your kind and honest reply! We will probably have to end up disagreeing on whether or not the death was an assassination or suicide. I do believe that motivation for a murder was that Mr. Marshall had something someone wanted, the notes for his new book, and/or as well as perhaps a signal to others not to "go there".

If Marshall had been under surveillance, he normally would not have had the kids or dog on that night. Surprise when the hitman gets in. Also, his computer and notes are gone.

The Congress members who have seen the missing 28 pages of the official report are under oath to not divulge what was redacted. The Eleventh Day book by Summers and Swan even point out the Arizona connection, referring to Saudi financial support there. Marshall was able to gather more information that leads to his theory of how the Saudis offered "logistical support" in Arizona, a phrase used in the official report. IMO his account of Saudi "logistical support" in Arizona is pretty darned close as to what actually transpired and is referred to in the report. Marshall was under no oath to keep quiet about his account.

No one will ever know what he dug up to put in his new book. If you can ever get your hands on a copy of the Bamboozle book, you might find some info in there for your own research. Marshall's interviews just scratch the surface. Oh, also, there is a video at C-SPAN of Marshall confronting a govt official (TSA admin John Pistole) at an airline pilot's meeting, putting Marshall further in the public eye.

I do agree that so much that still comes out as "news" re Saudi financing, highjackers, and connections to 9/11 has been out there from the beginning. What is still missing is the puzzle piece for a complete picture. It's in the blacked out 28 pages. And it just might be that Marshall's research leading him to the scenario that Saudi Intelligence gave the "logistical support" was enough to muzzle him permanently. (That and any connections to CIA.)

One thing I say is that the towers didn't even have to collapse for 9/11 to be a horrific event. Take the collapse away, there is still a devastating and humiliating blow to America, enough to set it on a course to invade in the ME.

If Arizona Senator John McCain believes that Saudi Arabia is our "friend", than he is more naive than I could imagine. As the old phrase goes, Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

I read this story and it sure is a sad one.

The took out the children too. Sociopaths for sure.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I hadn't heard the Strieber interview before. Thanks for sharing. Yes, Marshall really lays it out there.

I think what happened after 9/11 was that most people (all over the globe) could not fathom how something like that could take place. Even though Saudi involvement was highly suspicious once their jets were allowed to leave and the highjackers were revealed (and even before, the first suspicions did fall on the side of America's #1 terrorist enemy at the time, OBL), the event was so unfathomable that almost immediately people came up with theories. There became the official report and then all the various theories.

Mr. Marshall stayed with the official report, trying to reconstruct the event as a way to understand how it could have happened to his fellow industry pilots and crews. He dug and dug, asked and asked, and looks like he came up with what was not revealed to the public. Mr. Marshall's work was always overshadowed by the 9/11 theories out there.

I found it interesting in the Strieber interview, that Marshall said that the redacted pages would unlikely see the light of day. And now we'll never know what else he dug up.

originally posted by: Ridhya

Check out this congressional hearing about a dartgun that induces heart attacks.

Yup, that sounds like the sort of Get/Smart James Bond technique we would imagine the Black Hats have to off people. And if there was a large list of likely targets who all died of heart attacks or something similarly suspicious I would be more likely to accept the possibility this might be happening.

But if the best evidence is a list of baby sitters and prostitutes and people dying in subway and plane crashes and from anti-freeze poisoning that took 27 months to kill I'm not readily buying into it.

a reply to: DelMarvel
Variety is the spice of life. If you want to assassinate dozens of people, it wouldnt be very inconspicuous to just mass murder them all in the same way. Moot point though, cant prove it either way. If the government is complicit in the deaths of 3000 people though, what's 20 more?

originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: Ridhya

So you list a few names out of hundreds of thousands of people who were somehow affected or involved in what happened on one of the most infamous days in Human history, and point out ho they died, and this is supposed to mean evidence of something?

Sorry, but that's just stupid.

I'll bet if you go back to the thousands of people who were present when John F Kennedy was shot you could find a list of 50 people who all died in various ways. It means nothing, people die every day, in accidents, suicides, murders... unless you have some actual evidence to back up this ridiculous claim what you just put there is nonsense.

This is ATS, the top conspiracy website on the internet.

We discuss and speculate about conspiracies all day.

As has been proven a multitude of times, the MSM is controlled and will never talk or even know about such issues.

All courts accept circumstantial evidence, why do "debunkers" never accept this type of evidence for conspiracies? Isn't that stupid or ignorant?

If such topics bother you, then maybe you should stick to sites like the Huffington Post.

originally posted by: Ridhya
a reply to: DelMarvel
If you want to assassinate dozens of people, it wouldnt be very inconspicuous to just mass murder them all in the same way.

So, in an effort to be inconspicuous they kill someone by crashing two Metro trains in Washington, DC? Or kill one person by crashing an airliner?

a reply to: DelMarvel
Why not? According to the NTSB,, there was a faulty track circuit, and they failed to do the safety test which would have detected it. Just like 9/11, at the very least its a complete ineptitude and dereliction of duty.

You'd think there would be massive punishment for not doing their only job and getting 9 people killed, but no mention of it.

The outlandish types with huge Internet followings that make a lot of noise in their
opinions of 9/11 have little to worry about.
The systematic journalists who take these ideas to a level where academia
takes notice are suicidal murderes apprently.

Just being a FEMA cameraman on 9/11 and sharing the video
will bring murder charges stout enough to warrant leaving the Northern Hemisphere.
So when a writer who has this academia attention states he has a bomb shell
to deliver is killed with a gunshot to the left temple
but is right handed ?
Cmon... Try it folks...works great if you are the right handed assassin
standing in front of your target, but missed one important detail.

The dog? the kids? a door that is never used is wide open and witnesses saw a SUV
porcupined with communication antennae sitting outside that night.

a reply to: Ridhya

That a safety test wasn't done that would have detected a faulty track circuit in no way at all substantiates the theory that the victim was delibarately killed this way.

Once again, how long would they have had to follow him and his wife around hoping they would get into one of the right cars on the right track? With there being a huge probability that they never would. It's beyond far fetched IMHO.

*Neighbors’ houses are “practically on top of” Marshall’s house, so dozens of neighbors would have heard any gunshots that weren’t muffled by a silencer…and Marshall’s “patsy gun” did not have a silencer.

*The crime scene was illegally and surreptitiously cleaned up by professionals, including “a SUV, license undetermined, with an array of communication antennas bristling from the roof.”

*Philip Marshall, who had expressed his fear of being harassed or silenced for his 9/11 revelations, never kept his doors open – but when the bodies were found, a side door Marshall never used was wide open.

According to Madsen, all of Marshall’s neighbors believe it was a professional murder, not the murder-suicide claimed by corrupt local police, who have presumably been told what to do and say by higher authorities working on behalf of “national security.”

Marshall, Madsen points out, was not just any 9/11 conspiracy author. A former airline pilot, Marshall was a close associate of notorious CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal, and a peripheral player in the New Orleans CIA/crime nexus that killed JFK, Martin Luther King, and many others. Madsen suggests that Marshall, a long-time participant in covert operations, developed a penchant for truth during the last years of his life.

According to Madsen, Marshall had stated that he was holding explosive information that would be revealed in his next book. The repeated professional-clean-ups of Marshall’s house after the murder suggest that the killers, and the agency or agencies employing them, were looking for a specific piece of evidence or information. (Marshall’s computer mysteriously disappeared after the killings, and its whereabouts remain unknown.)

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The Curious Case of Philip Marshall

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
*Neighbors’ houses are “practically on top of” Marshall’s house, so dozens of neighbors would have heard any gunshots that weren’t muffled by a silencer…and Marshall’s “patsy gun” did not have a silencer.

For what it's worth here's a copy of a report from the Sheriff's Department which among other things gives detailed reports of sound tests they did which showed the neighbors would not have heard the gunshots.

REPORT.

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
Marshall, Madsen points out, was not just any 9/11 conspiracy author. A former airline pilot, Marshall was a close associate of notorious CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal, and a peripheral player in the New Orleans CIA/crime nexus that killed JFK, Martin Luther King, and many others. Madsen suggests that Marshall, a long-time participant in covert operations, developed a penchant for truth during the last years of his life.

I'd like to see more details on Marshall's association with the "New Orleans CIA/crime nexus." Is there something about that in the two links you've posted? I've only skimmed them so far.

Obviously, someone born around 1959 didn't have anything to do with killing JFK or MLK. Barry Seal has been dead close to thirty years so the idea that Marshall had incriminating information from that association that he was still holding out on seems unlikely to me but I'll read your links.

a reply to: DelMarvel



"A medical doctor consulted during the investigation stated that combining bupropion (anti-depressant) with hydrocodone (narcotic) can have adverse reactions in regards to mental health. Additionally, missing a dose or taking too much of one of these prescriptions could also cause adverse reactions. Research showed that the Food and Drug Administration warned that any abrupt changes in psychotropic medications (such as what Marshall was prescribed) could result in suicide, hostility,or psychosis."

That's the main reason I think Marshal may have done it after all. It is claimed he was popping pain killers and psychotropic meds like Chiclets. Psychotropic drugs have been used by just about 100% of all single shooter mass killings.