SURPRISE: Iran Rejects Obama’s 10-Year Nuke Deal

Maybe we should offer them something real and tangible like forcing Israel to dismantle their undeclared nukes, including verification by international inspectors.

I wonder what ole Netanyahu would think of that.

Nuclear weapons are IMO, the most counter-productive venture ever taken on by humanity and the only real answer is to rid the earth of their existence, totally & completely.

Anything else is just the "pot calling the kettle black."

Just think of the good that could be done with those resources.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I saw a,I believe TV movie with that plot years ago.In the French sold nuclear missiles to Iraq.Who at some point launched them at the US.The catch?The French had done something to make them unable to detonate.However as they clearly intended to destroy the US,we in turn sent them the real deal.The only person who knew they were blanks were High French officials and the president.

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: ATF1886
Sorry to tell you but realities of life is ISRAEL would nuke Iran off the Map...sorry a reply to: MALBOSIA

Israel doesn't have the balls. Their belly is yellow.

Right again genuis.Like the cowardly way they have fought against overwhelming arab forces in EVERY war since 1947.That"cowardly"raid at Entebbe airport .Literally throwing the PLO out of Beirut.Varius strikes against illegal arms shipments to their enemies ect.I wish my government was so"yellow".

I guess we will find out when they finally go into Iran. Oh wait... Israel is spineless, they need the west to do it for them.

originally posted by: ATF1886
No at all i dont waste my time with someone baiting me on ignorance.a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

Stop. I somewhat agree with your points (just not the one regarding ignorance baiting). However; it WOULD be helpful if you would quote the comments of mine you are referring to.

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: xuenchen

Well, didn't see that one coming LOL.

I have a plan and it's been done before and worked for a little while.... Sell Iran atomic weapons and see what they do with them. A nice thin plutonium coating on lead for Iran, like the gold on titanium with the Chinese. The bombs would be like blanks, they'd have some kind of cheezy trigger system, not the newer ones, but just good enough that between the radiation and the triggers, nobody is going to want to take it apart ;-)

Cheers - Dave

And if they send them back complaining that those are not going to help them with electricity?

a reply to: ketsuko

You make some valid points in your post.

So we are mostly back to square one. How long until someone is arrogant enough to think we can get away with another "limited" nuclear exchange?

That's why its imperative that we continue to educate people on the horrors of nuclear....or any type of war fo that matter.

And I agree that Iran should be discouraged from developing nuclear weapon capability.

What I can't accept is the argument that many give for supporting military action against Iran.
It hasn't helped solve anything in the region, (however, I do support some sort of military action against IS, but that's a topic for another time and place).

Sanctions have got Iran to the table..... lets give them every opportunity to reach an agreement before bombing the hell out of yet another country....and thus help perpetuate the cycle of hatred.

Is a shame its impossible to un-invent something.

originally posted by: TDawg61
a reply to: TDawg61
Wth has that got to do with iran and Israel and nukes?

dude, you're the one that brought it up:

The"peaceful"nation that kidnapped another nations entire embassy staff for 14 months?Breaking every possible internationally recognized rule of diplomatic behavior?

en.wikipedia.org...

are you referring to the US when you said

Breaking every possible internationally recognized rule of diplomatic behavior

because your smashing credentials of life in Iran under the Shah would surely explain why they took the embassy hostage for 14months which created a snowball effect of Muslim anti-mentalities towards the USA and still reverberates around the world, today!

this is the same peaceful nation of Iran that has never

1. detonated a nuclear weapon
2. created a nuclear weapon
3. invaded its neighbors

unlike the USA, which has done all 3, multiple times and more recently for nothing but $$$.

How about the fact that Iran are on the ground fighting ISIS in Iraq and have been offering their help since ISIS came to be.

So yes, with all your ignorance and arrogance for the world to see, please explain to me where i went wrong?

originally posted by: ATF1886
Lmao best humor ive heard all night!!!a reply to: [post=19073686]St Udio

I don't think that truth is very comedic at all, its tragic. Obama's legacy/perceived library of his accompishments will not be in Mecca (it will be in Kenya).

It just occurred to me. Everyone has probably figured out by now that ISIS is actually a western puppet group. Who is ISIS fighting with the most right now? Iran?

Are we currently at war with Iran, using ISIS as a proxy force?

originally posted by: ATF1886
I think EMP is the new future of weaponry less clean up...a reply to: Freeborn

Well, I guess its all up to 'father' Sun to make that decision (hopefully it has a positive, benevolent and loving nature) otherwise it could be a 'wrath like' beat down; "you humans think you have any control over my realm"; I will show you what an EMP is as I INVENTED IT.

originally posted by: Flatfish
Maybe we should offer them something real and tangible like forcing Israel to dismantle their undeclared nukes, including verification by international inspectors.

I wonder what ole Netanyahu would think of that.

Nuclear weapons are IMO, the most counter-productive venture ever taken on by humanity and the only real answer is to rid the earth of their existence, totally & completely.

Anything else is just the "pot calling the kettle black."

Just think of the good that could be done with those resources.

I wonder why Jordan, Egypt and Israel were not included in these closed door talks; as they are bordering nations. I wonder why the American people and their representatives (the US congress) were not informed of the details of this 'contract' before 'negotiations' began (what is being hidden here).

originally posted by: MALBOSIA
It just occurred to me. Everyone has probably figured out by now that ISIS is actually a western puppet group. Who is ISIS fighting with the most right now? Iran?

Are we currently at war with Iran, using ISIS as a proxy force?

NO.

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: ATF1886
Sorry to tell you but realities of life is ISRAEL would nuke Iran off the Map...sorry a reply to: MALBOSIA

Israel doesn't have the balls. Their belly is yellow.

Right again genuis.Like the cowardly way they have fought against overwhelming arab forces in EVERY war since 1947.That"cowardly"raid at Entebbe airport .Literally throwing the PLO out of Beirut.Varius strikes against illegal arms shipments to their enemies ect.I wish my government was so"yellow".

I guess we will find out when they finally go into Iran. Oh wait... Israel is spineless, they need the west to do it for them.

Israel IS THE WEST as represented in the middle east (it is the only democratic state existing).

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Flatfish
Maybe we should offer them something real and tangible like forcing Israel to dismantle their undeclared nukes, including verification by international inspectors.

I wonder why Jordan, Egypt and Israel were not included in these closed door talks; as they are bordering nations.
I wonder why the American people and their representatives (the US congress) were not informed of the details of this 'contract' before 'negotiations' began (what is being hidden here).

Perfectly logical questions.
Truth is... "The most transparent administration in U.S. history"...likes to keep congress in the dark.
Remember Nancy Pelosi regarding Obamacare?: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it!"

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

china? sitting on Tibet and claiming Tiawan and the bulk of the south china sea? Israeli forces aint the only ones sitting on "disputed land"

en.wikipedia.org... pretty big list here some even having UN action that was ignored by participants even after world court rulings

news.nationalgeographic.com...


www.gatestoneinstitute.org...



does any one know if the talks are going to resume or is this the end of them? what i dont get is why if iran doesnt want to get harassed for its nuclear ambition that they just dont pull out of the NPT treaty as Israeli government has (if they ever even signed it in the first place)
en.wikipedia.org... edit it seems they never signed it along with India,,North Korea, Pakistan and South Sudan odd how all these nations have desputied borders or claim more land then is agreed upon internationally and india and pakistan get a bit less guff then the others on that list

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: ATF1886
Sorry to tell you but realities of life is ISRAEL would nuke Iran off the Map...sorry a reply to: MALBOSIA

Israel doesn't have the balls. Their belly is yellow.

Right again genuis.Like the cowardly way they have fought against overwhelming arab forces in EVERY war since 1947.That"cowardly"raid at Entebbe airport .Literally throwing the PLO out of Beirut.Varius strikes against illegal arms shipments to their enemies ect.I wish my government was so"yellow".

I guess we will find out when they finally go into Iran. Oh wait... Israel is spineless, they need the west to do it for them.

Israel IS THE WEST

No it's not. Just another ME nation, only with a MAJOR superiority complex.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: ATF1886
originally posted by: MALBOSIA
originally posted by: ATF1886

Sorry to tell you but realities of life is ISRAEL would nuke Iran off the Map...sorry a reply to: MALBOSIA

Israel doesn't have the balls. Their belly is yellow.

Cumulative stockpile (Usable and Not)estimated 80–400 warheads[2][3][4]

Israel remains the only country in the Middle East believed to possess them.[1]

Maximum missile range11,500 km with 1000 kg payload; probably significantly greater with smaller payload (Jericho III)[5]

link to IRANS A$$ whoopin

Like stated above im sorry but i forsee iran beeing turned to Ash and Dust...

Never experienced seeing a (brilliant) autistic childish nation being nuked for being so irrevocably badly behaved untrainable (no hope); this could be a first.

Was This considered one of your assults on my statements?

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

It just occurred to me. Everyone has probably figured out by now that ISIS is actually a western puppet group. Who is ISIS fighting with the most right now? Iran?

Are we currently at war with Iran, using ISIS as a proxy force?

Doh !!

I wonder who is *really* getting bombed?

What if the conspiracy is all Sunnis are uniting !!!!

The bombings might be cutting a path to Damascus and Baghdad !!

Heavens to Betsy !!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing
originally posted by: Flatfish

VHB: I wonder why Jordan, Egypt and Israel were not included in these closed door talks; as they are bordering nations.
I wonder why the American people and their representatives (the US congress) were not informed of the details of this 'contract' before 'negotiations' began (what is being hidden here).

IAMTAT: Perfectly logical questions.
Truth is... "The most transparent administration in U.S. history"...likes to keep congress in the dark.
Remember Nancy Pelosi regarding Obamacare?: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it!"

Because we are 'children' needing guidance by others that perceive themselves to have our best interests at heart. I am an adult and do not need bright eyed socialist ingrained first year freshmen college students telling me what is best for my welfare (how dare they). Pelosi needs volunteer for the one way "Mission to Mars" never to return to earth again; take Obamas cabinet with her (one way no return ticket punch).

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Russia.