Female Isis Captives endure 'brutal and abnormal' sex

a reply to: jjkenobi

Turn it around, are there christians who are killing non-christians? catholic or protestant?

I would change point 1 into the following:

Kill as many if not all those that have a different belief or no belief, this of course includes shia, kurds, alawites, yazidi and sufi, and spread fear.

I don't agree to point two, organized belief (which is most certainly not the religious mind) is ideology.
Those who follow this sick ideology and try to bring the world around them in accordance with this sickness are evil.

originally posted by: Cogidubnus
Here is a Wikipedia article on Christian Terrorism. en.wikipedia.org...

Here is a quick "highlights" list for you from another source:

1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012.

2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009

3. Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008.

4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994.

5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.

6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998.

7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994.

8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010.


Thousands a month vs a handful over a 20 year period.
Nice work there bud, kind of proves the other guys point.

a reply to: jjkenobi

hear frequently on ATS that members here "fear extremist Christians more than extremist Muslims". You are clearly out of touch and quite frankly I have a heard time taking anything else those people say seriously

Now I am going to put all of this in a little perspective for you.. The US leader Bush at the time of the invasion of Iraq said he went to war because God told him too..
Two illegal wars with no cohernet exit strategy and maybe a millon or so women and children dead. A politcal power vacuume that has been filled by terrorist groups and calls to invade Sryia which is a sovereign nation..

Sounds pretty extreme to me son..

purp..

a reply to: nfflhome

Those were examples friend. In a futile attempt to show that the OP was incorrect in there statement that Christians have been docile since the crusades. By no means does this small list cover all of the joys and chaos brought about by our friendly followers of Jesus. Also the second half of my post, which you so koi-ly left out of your response, touches on the much more disturbing revelations being brought to fruition from our catholic comrades. You must be a follower, because you obviously pick and choice snipts of material that which you read to further your justifications. You must read and analyse, yes even the parts that do not agree with your conclusions. This is elementary school critical thinking. We, I am not here to spoon feed you information guy. We, I am not here to play semantics chum. You aren't even playing the game. Your just sitting on the sidelines eating a hot dog. Now, go clean that wiener off your chin put a glove and get on the field, bud.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

My thoughts exactly.

I saw a bill mahr piece once that basically called out liberals and atheists who in the name of cultural sensitivity and multiculturalism, turn a blind eye to radical Islam and instead go ape isht over state side trivial BS.

It was gold.

I am not even a traditional Christian or Catholic. I don't mind the nutters though because they just try to go through proper channels to push laws on us that we don't like.....AS IF THAT IS AS BAD as rape theft and murder....

You can get all pissed off that a Christian is trying to impose his moral compass on you or that someone refuses to use the right pronoun when referring to a person with gender issues.....but only a hypocritical dick would get upset at that and then turn a blind eye to everything that ISIS and others do.

a reply to: Cogidubnus


I suppose you obviously feel strongly in your reply as having posted it three times, so your saying Christian (& Catholic) atrocities over the past two years > scope, number, and depravity of "joys and chaos brought about by our friendly followers of" Muhammad? Your telling someone to "get on the field"? You need to start watching the game.

a reply to: tadaman

How about we worry about cleaning the # out of our own backyard before complaining about others? That's the point being made. No one disagrees what's going on in the middle east is a travesty, but that is not a domestic problem. No one is going to ignore the issues we face here at home just because somewhere else has it worse. Besides if you're such a bleeding heart about overseas, why aren't you mentioning Africa. You think the Middle East is bad...

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: tadaman

How about we worry about cleaning the # out of our own backyard before complaining about others? That's the point being made. No one disagrees what's going on in the middle east is a travesty, but that is not a domestic problem. No one is going to ignore the issues we face here at home just because somewhere else has it worse. Besides if you're such a bleeding heart about overseas, why aren't you mentioning Africa. You think the Middle East is bad...

"Not a domestic problem" - yet.

a reply to: Puppylove

I dont see the OP or the article asking for more concerted efforts. All I see is an effort of awareness.

I agree with you though. There is allot left to do at home. That doesnt mean that we should ignore what is a growing problem that will eventually affect all people.

I just dont see the point in saying "ooh christians are bad too" when this thread is about ISIS and its reality.

Are we to mention every instance of human terribleness in the hopes that somehow we get enough material for another conversation that can completely avoid the subject at hand?

a reply to: UnBreakable

Ok how about this for an example. Someone two states over is a rapist mass murderer, should you suddenly stop caring about the burglar in your neighborhood as a result?

a reply to: tadaman

The OP specifically called out people worried about Christian extremists. Yes the Muslim Extremists overtly do worse stuff where they are (the rapists murderers in my example), but the Christian extremists (The burglar in my example) is a local problem, and far more relevant to the people here. As a result, the Christian extremist is, to the people here, the more immediate, more relevant threat. So when people say they are more worried about the Christian extremist that's why, they're the problem in our own back yards.

a reply to: Puppylove

Ok but the threat we may face by over zealous christians is legislation they can push or social pressure they can exert in local communities. Honestly that is just inconvenient to others who disagree. No one dies because of it.

I am just saying, if religious fundamentalism is such a threat to some, and no quarter is given to it....how can what groups like ISIS just get ignored?

Would it not make sense to start denying quarter to that chosen enemy with ISIS and others if religious fundamentalism is such a threat, being that they are the greatest threat as far as religious fundamentalism in the world today.

Unless people are saying that Christians are as violent and barbaric as these other examples....then I have disagree completely and fight back the urge to laugh at the absurdity of those comments.


EDIT TO ADD:
The OP may have called out anyone he felt like, he is still working for awareness. Nothing has been called to happen in response.

Yeah so so bad in the Middle East, so terrible but yet...

Nearly 90,000 people reported being raped in the United States in 2008

Terrible how there were 3000 rapes in Syria, and so much better in the USA wouldn't you say?

How about cleaning your own back yard before worrying about others, and as already been stated on here it was the "God ordered me to do it" approach from Bush that killed over a million people, far far worse than anything that ISIS have done, yes they are a bunch of A holes, and need castrating, but it feels very much like the pot calling the kettle black here

Source

There are extremist Christians and extremist Muslims. These people of ISIS are not even Muslim and do not follow Muslim rules. They hide behind religion to justify their desire to kill people. Mohammad did not like killing unless completely necessary. At least this is what I have read about Mohammad's ways.

Years back there was a lot of killing done in the name of Jesus. Jesus never promoted killing anyone. I am glad those days are history and never want to see wars started in the name of Jesus, Mohammad, or the Buddha. All three were peaceful people, not people who wanted to overthrow others.

The supposedly ultra-conservative Muslim fundamentalists have been forcing women in the city of Raqqa to marry them and engage in savage sex acts that result in hospital treatment, the report says.

The jihadists also buy kinky lingerie — described in the report as “strange underwear” — for their reluctant brides, according to the “Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently” activist group.

“A large section of ISIS members suffer from sexual anomalies and brutal instinctive desire for sex,” the group wrote on its website.

Sounds more like an ultra-Progressive Left Wing agenda.

a reply to: UnBreakable

I have spotty internet connection here so i apologize for the multiple posts... Now, If you think I am try to vouch on behalf of ISIS then I give up. If you think the purpose of my post(s) was to say one group is worse than the other, you have sadly misunderstood. If that is the only conclusion you are able to discern from my previous post(s), if you got nothing else from the subjects being discussed than we can not help you.

a reply to: jjkenobi

They are not extreme Muslins or Islam. These scumbags have nothing to do with either religion. Thats just their excuse to be an abomination to the rest of the Islamic world and do whatever they want under the guise of Islam.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: jjkenobi

They are not extreme Muslins or Islam. These scumbags have nothing to do with either religion. Thats just their excuse to be an abomination to the rest of the Islamic world and do whatever they want under the guise of Islam.

I think the point here is not what you believe but what they believe. If they believe they are followers of Mohammad than who are you to say otherwise. Now what you can say is they are misinterpreting the Koran but bear In mind they will say the same to you.

Sadly the problem is religion because religion is a form if control. IT CAN BE GOOD OR BAD DEPENDING ON WHO WIELDS IT.