Anatomy of a demon

a reply to: Saylesie17

The catholic church. they have say do they.

Man is called by God not men.

originally posted by: graceunderpressure
I would be very, very careful about delving into this subject or deciding that they are "pure fantasy." I've listened to a number of interviews with highly credible priests and demonologists who think otherwise and warn against opening doors to them through curiosity.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." [Shakespeare]

There's nothing credible about priests or demonologists to begin with. They are still living in the dark ages. I'd be very careful believing anything they would say.

Of course this is all just peoples opinions but personally i feel as tho demons are real and i believe demons are different from spirits spirits are people who have lived and died here on this planet where as demons have never lived in the physical world
demons are evil and when in the presence of one ot feel way different than a spirit even evil spirts such as dopplegangers and polterguists
the feeling of a demons presence is jst weird
last one i encounteredit made my whole body ache gave me a wicked burning sensation in my chest


Each demon has its own legion of minions which do their bidding or so ive read in the past

I could not even try to answer this for I have been wondering the same thing very recently.

I personally FEEL like demons are just people who have succumbed to negative energy. They feed off of it and it feeds off of them. I have met so many people, mainly men, unfortunately, who have just been very evil inside. Most whom can never change, and I call them demons.

I'm not sure if demons in the sense that people would normally think actually exist. Nor would I want them to.

Interesting replies so far. I will be coming back to see what others have to say. But I agree with @graceunderpresure when they said not to delve to it too much. For regardless of whether DEMONS actually exist, there is definitely evil in this world and once you open yourself up to it, it clings to you like white on rice.

a reply to: ancientthunder

a reply to: ItCameFromOuterSpace

Explain why they are living in the dark ages, so im crazy then is that what you is saying. thats what they or he wants you to think its working to so its your choice.

See it could be couldnt it

originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace

originally posted by: graceunderpressure
I would be very, very careful about delving into this subject or deciding that they are "pure fantasy." I've listened to a number of interviews with highly credible priests and demonologists who think otherwise and warn against opening doors to them through curiosity.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." [Shakespeare]

There's nothing credible about priests or demonologists to begin with. They are still living in the dark ages. I'd be very careful believing anything they would say.

So, you're summarily discounting the experiences of a range of people both inside and outside the church with many years' experience. I think anyone who believes only in the physical world as we've defined it within our very limited means is "living in the Dark Ages."

a reply to: ancientthunder
Here is one description that I have found to be beneficial,( Logismoi ) a greek take on the demon idea. Great book Mountain of silence if your interested in the subject.

Fr. Maximos of Mount Athos Fr. Maximos (Moschos?) of Mount Athos is quoted extensively on the subject of logismoi in Kyriakos Markides' book, Mountain of Silence. Fr. Maximos describes five stages of logismoi as detailed in the teachings of the Fathers of the Church: Assault - the logismoi first attacks a person's mind Interaction - a person opens up a dialogue with the logismoi Consent - a person consents to do what the logismoi urges him to do Defeat - a person becomes hostage to the logismoi and finds it more difficult to resist Passion or Obsession - the logismoi becomes an entrenched reality within the nous of a person Fr. Maximos explains that no sin is committed until the stage of Consent, though he warns that if a person is of weak temperment, they are unlikely to be able to resist the logismoi at the Interaction stage. Fr. Maximos teaches that the best way to combat logismoi is to be indifferent, to ignore them. He suggests that a person should pray to combat logismoi, but only when not overcome by fear.

Ignore them, powerful. So they look for partners it seems.

Wow. That is very interesting, indeed. What is the link for this?

a reply to: ancientthunder

a reply to: PageLC14
orthodoxwiki.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">logismoi
there sorry I should have put it in, its a great simple look at demons but with a nice touch of demystifying their power.

They are technologically advanced beings from another dimension oriented toward service to self. They are the top of our present, crumbling master-slave pyramidal power structure. The upper echelon of human leadership are under their direction. The former has literally "sold their soul to the devil" and may or may not know that when they are no longer of service to their masters will be consumed. The negative aspect is a dead end. Total power of unimaginable description is available to the followers of the path of love. A round of cyber- "Heady Toppers" for you all!

... PEACE.

Oops, linky doesn't work :/


ETA: I found it

a reply to: ancientthunder

originally posted by: Saylesie17
a reply to : [post=19012699]graceunderpressure Thats a very good point so what am i.

I have no idea what you are.

originally posted by: graceunderpressure
a reply to: Saylesie17

Actually, the definition encompasses both types, but the ones that I referred to are people who have experience in dealing with demons firsthand. Ed and Lorraine Warren are examples. (Actually, Ed is a demonologist and his wife is a medium, but they work as a team.) Adam Blai is another. These are people who have had contact and confrontations with demons for many years. When you hear them speak about these occurrences, they sound quite matter-of-fact, as if it's just an accepted reality that they deal with every day.

Please note that every single exorcist or demonologist I've ever heard says very strongly that you must be called to do this sort of work, and not to pursue it for your own ends.

You've named three people. Other than their claims, what proves that they're experts in this field. For that matter, what evidence proves that demons exist?

a reply to: Tangerine
What proves that your an "expert" in any field ?
Research years and years of it the same goes for science religion etc