The "Catastrophic Shutdown Of America's Supply Chain" Begins: Photos Of West Coast Congestion

I have a package coming in from China. It shipped from Shenzen China on Feb. 7th and arrived in San Francisco today (Feb. 12th). Not sure if it's going through San Fran due to this, however, the package is on time and will actually be here much sooner than I expected. Just my personal recent experience.

ETA: I'm in Arizona, so it seems like the Los Angeles port would be more likely destination, but I have no idea.

originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy


$10 hr? Are you kidding? I was making $8 an hour in 1997 working at Home Depot. 2001 I was making $11 an hour. $10 is a f'ing joke! In the year 2015? And I don't mean to ridicule you at all. It's tough out there but my god $10 hr is poverty wages in America.

I live quite well

I drink whenever I want.. Eat whatever I want.. Do whatever I want, and I have a stress free job with no boss..
I just played this game of life the way I wanted to. I have 0 debt. I basically have $800 a month free money.

a reply to: Pimpish

Then it did not come by container ship as transshipment time is typically 20 days.

a reply to: KnightLight

Well as someone who lives very well I can tell you it is not something to brag about. Throwaway money is desirable no doubt and so are the material/social "benefits" but look at how many are not living the dream. That's a horror when one can see people working 3 jobs to get by and going to food kitchens, stamps, cutting back.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That makes sense, must have gone by plane.

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: KnightLight

Well as someone who lives very well I can tell you it is not something to brag about.

Haha actually it is.. Are you trying to race me? I mean what do you want?

Even owning my own business would be worse for me. I like having no customers and no boss, and a strict schedule that cannot be broken. I used to run an online thingy.. Ran out of product too fast and blah blah blah but it was easy money. I was pulling in huge amounts, but it was stressful. Making sure I shipped everything and got everything right.. Basically on the clock all day everyday printing shipping labels..

Now I just push buttons and get payed vacation.. And trust me $800 a month extra is nice when I have nothing to worry about ever. I've never had a less stress part of my life even as a kid.

a reply to: KnightLight

I have too many responsibilities to play games with someone on the internet who brags about an extra 800.

originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy


$10 hr? Are you kidding? I was making $8 an hour in 1997 working at Home Depot. 2001 I was making $11 an hour. $10 is a f'ing joke! In the year 2015? And I don't mean to ridicule you at all. It's tough out there but my god $10 hr is poverty wages in America.

I live quite well

I drink whenever I want.. Eat whatever I want.. Do whatever I want, and I have a stress free job with no boss..
I just played this game of life the way I wanted to. I have 0 debt. I basically have $800 a month free money.

No rent? No car? No health insurance? No retirement? Sure live it up! Sorry your life is not nearly as good as you think it is making poverty wages.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: arjunanda

Thanks. The big issue right now is the lack of chassis for the containers as the teamsters are also having sympathy slow downs with the longshoremen.

We discuss this everyday at 10AM and it has gotten somewhat better than last month however it is still not that great.

hmmm....apparently there are 2 sides to this story.........www.longshoreshippingnews.com...
of course, here in corporate-media-controlled America, it's those filthy, lowlife, fat-cat, overpaid, dock workers that are the entire cause of this problem.....

originally posted by: jimmyx
hmmm....apparently there are 2 sides to this story...

The 'story' that I am giving you is direct from our operations manager who is reporting daily that we cannot get our containers out due to a shortage of chassis.

originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy

originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy


$10 hr? Are you kidding? I was making $8 an hour in 1997 working at Home Depot. 2001 I was making $11 an hour. $10 is a f'ing joke! In the year 2015? And I don't mean to ridicule you at all. It's tough out there but my god $10 hr is poverty wages in America.

I live quite well

I drink whenever I want.. Eat whatever I want.. Do whatever I want, and I have a stress free job with no boss..
I just played this game of life the way I wanted to. I have 0 debt. I basically have $800 a month free money.

No rent? No car? No health insurance? No retirement? Sure live it up! Sorry your life is not nearly as good as you think it is making poverty wages.

Being debt free doesn't mean he doesn't have a car, insurance, etc. Perhaps he was smart with his money, owns his home/car outright, has no credit cards, and lives debt free.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

So true I'm still young but I was like that at one time. Only thing is most of the time life and responsibilities catch up. I'm still able to drop money if I wanted to but it's not my style, to each is own

a reply to: arjunanda

What a bunch of selfish pricks, they arent happy making 250k a year?

a reply to: onequestion

As I said earlier, different areas make different amounts to reflect that. In our area though, that is a $185K income. I would think you could be happy with that. However, that is likely for those guys who have lots of seniority. Unions pay on the seniority scale. I wonder what the guys on the bottom of that scale make. I'm sure it's still pretty decent if the guys at the top are getting $250K.

I also have to wonder if this is partially a result of the minimum wage increases at some of the major cities with ports in them? Most union contracts factor in their base pay off of minimum wage, so it could be the dock workers in places like Seattle and San Fran (I think) where the minimum wage bases have recently been hiked are mad because they haven't seen a resulting pay increase, so the entire union decided to turn it into a union-wide issue even though the wage hikes only occurred in two places?

a reply to: ketsuko

I think it is likely tptb playing hardball over new trade agreement unions.

Spiritual implications that we will not understand.

Walmart wars

originally posted by: Pimpish
I have a package coming in from China. It shipped from Shenzen China on Feb. 7th and arrived in San Francisco today (Feb. 12th). Not sure if it's going through San Fran due to this, however, the package is on time and will actually be here much sooner than I expected. Just my personal recent experience.

ETA: I'm in Arizona, so it seems like the Los Angeles port would be more likely destination, but I have no idea.

I ordered a T.V. remote on Amazon that is coming from China last week. (I had no other choice, apparently it's a really rare remote!) The arrival date on Amazon said March 5th! I got an email confirming that it shipped yesterday, but it will take nearly a month to get here.

For now, I have to watch T.V. in fully zoomed mode where peoples heads are cut off etc lol. I couldn't find a universal remote with the zoom out function that I need.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: ketsuko
I think it is likely tptb playing hardball over new trade agreement unions.

This. It's not like the workers themselves are being greedy or selfish - they are being told that they will go on strike. You don't question the union. If you do... well, accidents happen.

a reply to: tallcool1

and what better way to put pressure on countries than to have their goods rot on deck?

if it were not the case then alternative ports would have been used 5 min after it started.

especially since this has happened before and we do have back up plans in place.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
if it were not the case then alternative ports would have been used 5 min after it started.

Which ones?

especially since this has happened before and we do have back up plans in place.

What plans?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: deadeyedick

if it were not the case then alternative ports would have been used 5 min after it started.

Which ones?

especially since this has happened before and we do have back up plans in place.

What plans?

Are you trying to imply that other ports and back up plans do not exist?