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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I say potato you say pootaatoo dont matter, look in the bible, look at art think of vimanas could they be in the bible?
Bible has information in it up to us how we look at that information.
They could just be depictions of vimanas. . . . . . . .
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
The bible could be an ancient account of a vimana and thier pilots, its a story, maybe true maybe not. This thread is for sharing stories not proving them to be real.
"And I looked, and behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst therof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
(verse 5) Also out of the midst therof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
(verse 6) And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
(verse 7) And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf s foot and they sparkled like the colour of burュnished brass.
(verse 8) And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
(verse 9) Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
(verse 10) As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
(verse 11) Thus were their faces: and their wings� were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
(verse 12) And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went
(verse 13) As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
(verse 14) And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
(verse 15) Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
(verse 16) The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a middle of a wheel.
(verse 17) When they went they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went
(verse 18) As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
(verse 19) And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
(verse 20) Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 21) When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 22) And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
(verse 23) And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side their bodies.
(verse 24) And when they went I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters; as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host when the: stood they let down their wings."
"And I looked, and behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst therof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
(verse 5) Also out of the midst therof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
(verse 6) And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
(verse 7) And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf s foot and they sparkled like the colour of burュnished brass.
(verse 8) And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
(verse 9) Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
(verse 10) As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
(verse 11) Thus were their faces: and their wings� were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
(verse 12) And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went
(verse 13) As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
(verse 14) And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
(verse 15) Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
(verse 16) The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a middle of a wheel.
(verse 17) When they went they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went
(verse 18) As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
(verse 19) And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
(verse 20) Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 21) When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 22) And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
(verse 23) And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side their bodies.
(verse 24) And when they went I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters; as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host when the: stood they let down their wings."
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I say potato you say pootaatoo dont matter, look in the bible, look at art think of vimanas could they be in the bible?
Bible has information in it up to us how we look at that information.
They could just be depictions of vimanas. . . . . . . .
Look what I found digging in old threads the other day when I posted about you in that old thread, Donner:
originally posted by: Donner
No, they are not depictions of vimanas. They are anthropomorphic representations of the sun and the moon, which was very common in medieval crucifixion art. There are many other examples and a good explanation of this concept here
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I say potato you say pootaatoo dont matter, look in the bible, look at art think of vimanas could they be in the bible?
Bible has information in it up to us how we look at that information.
They could just be depictions of vimanas. . . . . . . .
I was unaware that the Bible was written in the Medieval Period.
Harte
originally posted by: Marduk
All pseudo historians rely on time travel, it saves them having to remember dates
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: Marduk
All pseudo historians rely on time travel, it saves them having to remember dates
Speaking of that, Eddy Pengelly is still posting his time-travelling explanation for all of the ancient past on various forums.
He's assembled a new "paper."
Harte
Visual art isn't just marks, or blobs, or whatever, any more then verbal language is just grunts and sounds. It's a language and it takes time and study to learn to read any language. There are certain truths that we can determine about any given work of art and it is wrong to state otherwise. We can familiarize with the movement, with the styles of the artists, with the historical conditions they were working under, who and what influenced them, etc. Why would anyone interested in a work of art not want to know these things?
originally posted by: Donner
a reply to: Harte
Harte, thank you so much that was the first time I've seen that thread and WOW what a read! There's something Cicada said in that thread that really applies perfectly here, said it so eloquently I couldn't improve on it if I tried.
Visual art isn't just marks, or blobs, or whatever, any more then verbal language is just grunts and sounds. It's a language and it takes time and study to learn to read any language. There are certain truths that we can determine about any given work of art and it is wrong to state otherwise. We can familiarize with the movement, with the styles of the artists, with the historical conditions they were working under, who and what influenced them, etc. Why would anyone interested in a work of art not want to know these things?
It applies to these claims of UFO's in old art works, it applies to Ezekiel's prose, to the 'abydos helicopter', and countless other examples.... people focus only on the mark or the blob without taking the time to learn and understand the language.
Could Jesus Christ have been an Alien or had access to vimana technology?
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Could Jesus Christ have been an Alien or had access to vimana technology?
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
This guy has an interesting point of view on Jesus being an alien and flying back to earth in a ufo.
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Could Jesus Christ have been an Alien or had access to vimana technology?
John Keel, one of the most respected researchers in this field, noted that “over and over again, witnesses have told me in hushed tones, ‘you know, I don’t think that thing I saw was mechanical at all. I got the distinct impression it was alive.’” thestrongdelusion.com...
The UFO phenomena are manifestations of living beings that are here to deceive mankind. They appear in their UFO form because they wish to change our perception of reality. That they are alive rather than mechanical is not our only conclusion.
thestrongdelusion.com...
The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are liars and put-on artists. ~ John Keel
They are inveterate liars and deceivers, and delight in bamboozling and misleading mankind with all manner of nonsense. ~ Gordon Creighton
“They are messengers of deception” ~ Jacques Vallee
originally posted by: The GUT
...the hypothesis that best fits the UFO phenomenon is, imo, that those little stinking, lying buggers ARE demons.
Why the desire to change our beliefs? These aliens had a clear teaching agenda. But why was it so important for these aliens to change our traditional spiritual beliefs? We do know that the so-called space brothers have established a pattern of telling us things that have been proven to be demonstrably false. One should then ask, ‘Should they be trusted either?’ After all, if they have lied, should they not be treated as liars?”
Aliens - The Deadly Secret
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Could Jesus Christ have been an Alien or had access to vimana technology?