Bonesmen should not be President

I love how you radical liberals always, ALWAYS, relate any thread back to why Bush is "evil." People like Simulacra just show their ignorance when they do that. Look, even though I am opposed to the new world order, you can't stop someone from being president because of that. It's the same thing as religion. Most presidents have certain religious beliefs that will influence their decisions because it is a part of who they are. Bush was a member of skull and bones, but so was Clinton, and so was John Waffle Kerry, so don't try to act like it's only bush and put a spin on any thread. The president always has outside influences. For example... hundreds of countries... ... interest groups... party loyalties...

I know this is off topic but... who is our president again??
Oh yea, Bush!

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by AllseeingEYE
What happens when fellow Bonesmen ask
GW Bush to do something contrary to the
American people's best interests??

1. Why do you think a Bonesman would ask him to
do something contrary to America's best interests?

2. If they did, you'd never hear about it.

3. Why would the most powerful man in the free world
do what others in his frat ask him to? Kerry and G.W.
were both in the same frat at different times, and they
both have very different views on what direction America
needs to go in. Kerry wants to have America run like
socialist France. Bush wants America to take control of
it's own destiny, to take charge .... Two VERY different
views and directions and both coming from Bonesman.

How can their be an agenda when the Bonesman themselves
obviously disagree on what direction America should be going
in? The differences in direction are VASTLY different!

The only people who answer questions with questions are people who dont know the answer.
Why would the most powerful man in the free world do what his fratres ask him to? Because he has taken an oath to them. He's sold his soul to the Skull and Bones.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Indigo_Child

Originally posted by Frosty
he didn't need to win the popular vote, and he wasn't the first to lsoe the popular and win the electoral vote, which is what decides the presidency.

Your systems is flawed.

That's your opinion. An opinion that is not shared by the
founding fathers of this country, nor by the 'little' states.
This is the United States. America isn't one big state. It's
made of 50 distinct states (and some territories). STATES
RIGHTS are a BIG issue. ALL states are to have equal
say in the Federal Government. That's the reason for
the electoral college. Unless you live here, and live in
a smaller state, you'll probably never understand. The
electoral college is needed to ensure the smaller states
get their fair say in the federal government. Otherwise,
we are not UNITED states.

They actually divide you more than unite you. It's not an opinion; i'll demonstrate for you:

State Z

Candidate A Vote:= X
Candidate B Vote:= X -1

State Z = Candidate A

In other words the system is as such that despite how small the discrepancy in the votes in each individual state, it would be awarded to the candidate with the most votes(red or blue) even though had 49.5% of the voters not voted for the winning candidate.

Suppose candidate A won a lead of 10 states, each with a discrepancy of X-1, yet lost the popular vote by 1%(2.75 million people) but won because candidate A had a 10 state lead - or 10 more votes.

Does it seem to fair to you that candidate A should win because of 10 more votes from state elections, even though he lost by 2.75 million votes in the country election? That 's a lead for Candidate B of 99.9996% in case you want it in percentage form.

By segregating the voting process for the country into state elections, the potential for error in vote count or vote fraud increases w.r.t popular vote.
Suppose in the above example, there was a voting miscount in the 10 states candidate A lead, where Candidate A actually lost by X-1 or a total of 10 votes. This means that if there is an error in the vote count in only 20% of the states it invalidates the entire election.

So this system is flawed, unfair, undemocratic and prone to error/fraud and does not account for all of the voters. While, the popular vote is the opposite; it accounts for every single vote. It is a true representation of who the people(as a whole) want to elect.

In short: Your electoral system is a complete joke and the jokes on you.

[edit on 18-12-2004 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by serenitynow
I love how you radical liberals always, ALWAYS, relate any thread back to why Bush is "evil."

I never said that.

Originally posted by serenitynow
Look, even though I am opposed to the new world order, you can't stop someone from being president because of that.

No, but you should.

Originally posted by serenitynow
Bush was a member of skull and bones, but so was Clinton, and so was John Waffle Kerry, so don't try to act like it's only bush and put a spin on any thread.

I didnt.

Originally posted by serenitynow
The president always has outside influences.

I dont think that being a member of the Skull & Bones is really an outside influence, when the objective is to get other members into positions of power. Do you think they do this for free?

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by DaTruth

Originally posted by FlyersFan

1. Please provide proof that the Masons and the Bonesman have
a monopoly over power in the state.

it's obvious that you are extreme in your beliefs.

Asking a person for information to back up their claim means
I'm 'extreme in my beliefs'?? Uh ... no. It means I want to see
why they think the way they do. Actually, the person who thinks
that a college fraternity is secretly running the world is more
likely to be 'extreme in beliefs' then someone asking for more
information.

I see you just picked one sentence in my whole post to reply about. Typical. Why don't you move to D.C for about 3 months talk to the people in the city then you will have your "proof". I have leived here for 2 years and I see the "proof" that you talk about every day. It's funny that people want proof when it comes to matters like this but when it comes to religion you follow what ever "they tell you as true.

Indigo your waisting your time and bytes. i see why I stoped posting in theses forms. People are so zelous with there opnions that you can tell them everything but they still won't believe you. I guess they have to wait until we get hit with a H-bomb and bush is in his bunker reading "My Pet Goat". Then they might say well what do you expect him to do?

However, I do not believe there is a connection
between the college frat and Dracula, etc. etc. (yes, I know Dracula
and his true history). You are free to believe it all. I just don't.

Actually , Dracula is his common ancestor according to genelogists. Then again, probably 10,000 other Americans which means 0.003% are related to Dracula. Yet the parallel between Bush and Dracula are very strong:

1. They're both Christians
2. They're both satanists
3. They're both members of an elite society
4. They're both royal

Now, what is the probability of the following:

Related to Dracula - S&B member - President

0.0003 * 0.00000218 * 0.00000016

Approximately: 0.00000000000000010464 or 1*10^-18%

There are two more known president and runner-up president, whose common ancestor is Dracula too: George Bush Sr and John Kerry

So (1*10^-20)^3 = 1*10^-60 or

0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 which is impossible to be chance according to the laws of probability. Which only means that Bush is actually related to Dracula and it no coincedence he's a satanist and cold blooded murderer too, or that his family is involved with the Nazi's.

Which is what the elite bloodlines that rule this world all hold from. Satanists, devil worshippers, murderers.

As far as the Bonesman being in power ...
-They are at a VERY good school which specializes in Political
Science and Business.
-They all have to be VERY smart to get in.
-The frat picks only the best of the best of the best (quote MIB

)
-Networking and nepotism are part of business around the world. It
isn't fair to everyone else on the outside, but it's done EVERYWHERE,
not just this one college frat.

If you don't get it already, you never will, so I will spare you the math this time.

- There are very good schools all over America and they do not rule the world
- The elite High IQ societies in the world do not rule the world
- No, they are chosen by bloodlines. It's nepotism.
- No, Nepotism and networking in elite secret socities does not pervade global society.

Further, stop insulting your intelligence by referring to the S&B as "a college frat" I have already shown you it is hundreds of years old, it has a monopoly over power, and the members are blood brothers for life. It is a cult - satanic cult based in a college.

Further, Bush is actually a member of another satanic organization, called the Bohiman grove. So, the Bush you are so loyally supporting here, is a satanist.

Are you Christian?

Originally posted by Indigo_Child
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 which is impossible to be chance according to the laws of probability. Which only means that Bush is actually related to Dracula and it no coincedence he's a satanist and cold blooded murderer too, or that his family is involved with the Nazi's.

It irks me when science and math are twisted.

Indigo_Child is confusing "improbable" with "impossible".

An event with 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of occurence is IMPROBABLE, not IMPOSSIBLE.

It irks me when science and math are twisted.

Indigo_Child is confusing "improbable" with "impossible".

An event with 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of occurence is IMPROBABLE, not IMPOSSIBLE.

No, improbable, is you buying a lottery ticket today and winning at the next draw. Impossible, is you winning the next 100 lotteries by buying a ticket per week. Note, the difference.

As per the laws of entropy, when an event goes beyond a crucial point of randomness, it is impossible for it to be be restored to the original order by chance. Example, if you smash a clay teacup into a million pieces, then pick them all up and put them into a bucket and shake them. It would be impossible for them to reassemble into the cup. Borel's single law of chance states that an event beyond 10^-20-50 cannot occur by chance; it is not possible.

Other than that - moot point.

[edit on 18-12-2004 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by Indigo_Child

However, I do not believe there is a connection
between the college frat and Dracula, etc. etc. (yes, I know Dracula
and his true history). You are free to believe it all. I just don't.

Actually , Dracula is his common ancestor according to genelogists. Then again, probably 10,000 other Americans which means 0.003% are related to Dracula. Yet the parallel between Bush and Dracula are very strong:

1. They're both Christians
2. They're both satanists
3. They're both members of an elite society
4. They're both royal

Numbers one and two seem to be an oxymoron.

Numbers one and two seem to be an oxymoron.

Yes, it would seem so. That is why it surprises me how Christians can actually support a man like this.

Borel's Law is a "rule of thumb" that exists on a sliding scale, depending on the phenomenon in question. It is not a mathematical theorem, nor is there any hard number that draws a line in the statistical sand saying that all events of a given probability and smaller are impossible for all types of events.

Anything that isn't 0%, is not impossible in Probability Theory. One of the PhDs my father got was on a specific topic involving propability theory; he claims that just because an event has 0% chance of occuring, doesn't mean it WONT occur at all. Confusing, I know. I guess that's just how probability works. I suppose the Uncertainty Principle can be applied to Math as well as physics.
I got bored of listening to his proof, but I'm guessing that it might have something to do with the law of large numbers (another one of Borel's "brilliant" laws).

You know those number 10^-20 and 10^-50? You know that Borel literally pulled those numbers from his arse right?

EDIT: Though I guess it was a little picky of me to start arguing about this. You're right, it IS a moot point.

0.000000000000001% definitely shows statistical significance. If statistical significance is enough for science, it's enough for me.

[edit on 18-12-2004 by Nox]

Indigo,

First, I don't believe in 'evil' as it relates to 'Satan'. Or 'God' for that matter.

Skull and Bones, as an entity, are not 'evil'. If they worship Satan, then they are idiots. I do not believe they worship Satan, as they are obviously not idiots.

They worship themselves, and the money and power and control that make themselves what they are. They are extremely narcissistic and self-centered. They know that there is safety in numbers, and they use the network of bonesmen to secure for themselves more money, power, and control.

Networking is used every day in business, activism, and is a good way to find a job. The trouble with a network as old as Skull and Bones is that the power and control that has been gained since the early 1800's has been passed on to the future generations of bonesmen.

Over a period of 250 years, this can add up to quite a bit of power and influence. These bonesmen have been integral in every American institution for the past 100 years at least. I say 100 because it probably took the first 100-150 to properly emplace players in all the right positions in every aspect of American politics, industry, and law to be able to actually have a discernable impact on them.

Despite the fact that there are those who actively attempt to manipulate the people for their own self serving purposes, they cannot anticipate everything. At some points, their plans have failed due to unforseen events that could not be planned for. And they will continue to fail from time to time.

On a side note, why is it that none of these bonesmen have gotten drunk and leaked the secrets of the society? Why hasn't a disgruntled ex-wife ever divulged information that they gleaned from their men. You know men have told women at least some secrets. We're idiots when it comes to the poonanny.

Maybe getting a bit off topic

Can someone answer this question please? (prefferably someone who opposed my original statement)

What happens when fellow Bonesmen ask GW Bush to do something contrary to the American people's best interests??

Thankyou

Allseeingeye, we don't know, because there is no indication that it has happened or that he will carry out the request. Well, what if one of Reagan's actor friends had asked him to do something, or what if a colombian cartel member linked to Mena asked Clinton to do something? You know what, they'd all probably do the samething and say 'sorry', well except Clinton of coarse.

Originally posted by AllseeingEYE
Maybe getting a bit off topic

Can someone answer this question please? (prefferably someone who opposed my original statement)

What happens when fellow Bonesmen ask GW Bush to do something contrary to the American people's best interests??

Thankyou

I don't know what your original statement was, because I don't know how to read, but I can tell you this:

G.W. was asked by bonesmen, oilmen, and churchmen, all prior to his being placed in office to do a great number of things that were contrary to the interests of the American public.

Although, I am grateful for my tax cut. Which actually hasn't made a god damn bit of difference, seeing as I only make enough money in a year to get myself to work and back, but hey, he tried, right?

If you're looking for a textbook definition of puppet, look no further than George W. Bush. It isn't even a sneaky kind of puppet, either. It's totally blatant. Ok, so now we have a pipeline running straight through the middle of Afghanistan, a pipeline that Dick Cheney wasn't weasley enough to broker a deal for when he was a close business partner with the Taliban in the 80's.

And since Rummy failed so miserabley to buy into Iraqi oil at the same time, well, it only makes sense that we just go over there and take what should have been ours in the first place, right? Right.

And you can just go ahead and kiss any major advancement in medical technology goodbye because G.W. is such a good 'born again' Christian. Yeah, Lie to 270 million people in order to steal, get another dual class liar/theif to go along with the plan, and then drop a bunch of bombs on people just for fun. Soooo Christlike, I must say.

Ahhh, TV the bozos!

Originally posted by Indigo_Child

It irks me when science and math are twisted.

Indigo_Child is confusing "improbable" with "impossible".

An event with 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of occurence is IMPROBABLE, not IMPOSSIBLE.

No, improbable, is you buying a lottery ticket today and winning at the next draw. Impossible, is you winning the next 100 lotteries by buying a ticket per week. Note, the difference.

As per the laws of entropy, when an event goes beyond a crucial point of randomness, it is impossible for it to be be restored to the original order by chance. Example, if you smash a clay teacup into a million pieces, then pick them all up and put them into a bucket and shake them. It would be impossible for them to reassemble into the cup. Borel's single law of chance states that an event beyond 10^-20-50 cannot occur by chance; it is not possible.

Other than that - moot point.

[edit on 18-12-2004 by Indigo_Child]

You are funny as hell. I like how you kind of "give them a piece of there own medicine" You got my vote for Way above