War Veterans call to take America back **VIDEO - you won't see this on MSM**

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Lets start with this humdinger of a lie - straight out of the mouth of Obama before he was crowned.......

I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do, I will get our troops home and we will end this war – you can take that to the bank – presidential candidate Barack Obama, Oct 27th 2007.



Now, here below is the crap he was spruking when he got his crown - proof (for me at least), that he (and all of his predecessors on both sides of the great divide) is a mere muppet - given his throne in exchange for carrying out military/industrial complex policies.......

“president Obama has ordered 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan, it’s the first stage of a build-up that will eventually see 60,000 troops deployed to the country” – MSM propaganda, Feb 18th, 2009.

“It is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 troops to Afghanistan” – president Barack Obama, 1st Dec 2009

This vid linked above goes for 11 minutes and has a multitude of Vets testifying as to the reality of these wars, their personal encounters and the overwhelming effect it has had on their individual and collective consciousnesses.

Jason Lemieux (former marine Sgt and infantryman) "I was ordered multiple times by commissioned officers and non-commissioned officers to shoot unarmed civilians if their presence made me feel uncomfortable. The primary loyalty is NOT to democracy, or to the flag, or to America, or to the Iraqi people, or to the rule of law - it is to each others safety at the expense of everything else"







It is time that the citizens of the world rallied around our American brothers and sisters and insisted on political, military, corporate and financial accountability - no country is immune from the effect that the Banking elite have bought upon the planet - all wars are Bankers wars, for profit and consolidation of the earths precious resources...........done so at the expense of lives, and of Americas reputation.

Enough is enough, united we stand to defeat this behemoth - divided they want us. Are you going to let them? - surely the US constitutional amendments have given power to her citizens to reign-in this cluster-flux of a train-wreck we are all faced with and subjected to?

Rise up, and you will have the support of the 99%.........of that I am sure.

I am aware that some of the vets comments may have been posted here before......this is a timely reminder - before your next election.

I can get behind this! Let's end all war, it only benefits those who wage them.

To quote Guns N' Roses: "I don't need your civil war. It feeds the rich while it buries the poor."

I hope this trend continues. When you take another's life, you die a little inside. War is good for no one except those who profit from it and truth is always the first casualty.

There is 3 possible answers to the point you made about Obama's plans;


1) He was honest, but had to back track due to being given info he wasn't privy to about Afghanistan while he was running for office...

2) He was honest, but once he got into the WH he was told the score, & the repercussions for not following the orders of those in charge...

3) He was lying.


I favour No.1 to be honest.


Great Einstein quote...

If only we lived in a Utopia where that was a possibility.


& in the long run, there is no way to fight the Elite in the long term, unless a vast amount of civillians join the Military for the short term...

Militia and Gun Advocates will struggle to get hold of a decent range of Fighter Jets, a few Hundred Tanks, billions of rounds of ammunition & of course a well layed out Countrywide strategic plan...


But I'm sure Einstein knew all that

Time to look at the elephant in the room which is the drug trade and the money made from it.

I am with 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I too can get behind this, lets end all war.

Let us also vigorously and with impunity take action against those who committed War Crimes by invading and ordering the murder in Iraq and Afghanistan and who profited from it.

I am talking Bush, Cheney, Blair, Rice, Rumsfeld the list goes on.

They need to be made an example of to prevent future Presidents and Prime Ministers from thinking they can do this.

I will post that video wherever I can and look out for more similar groups, anyone know where there is a forum with like minded to people to share ideas?

I have more respect and love for my fellow vets than I do my own country.....I'm an expat now and it is amazing how many vets I run into. It is like we all got the # out of the usa at the same time.

Synchronicity certainly is a strange bedfellow. Seems one doesn't have to argue a point merely move on and it will be done for you. Apologies for the cryptic post but this OP just dovetailed perfectly with a comment I just made in another thread.

Back to the OP.
Not too big on the political mud slinging as it's all a circus and were the clowns.

Yes I think it's wonderful that vets and others are trying to get the word out about what's really going on. They've been trying for quite a while but it's either ignored or falls on willfully deaf ears. I truly hope that they can get more exposure and actually get through to the people and turn this crazy boat around.

S&F

There are very few just wars and none of them have happened in recent memory. The only way I would take another life is in self-defense. Any other situation involves some other type of solution. We need to hold our Government to the same standard.

Can you even imagine if we went to 'war' over property, money and insults as individuals and just started shooting each other? Government should not be exempt from sanity when it comes to wars.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do, I will get our troops home and we will end this war – you can take that to the bank – presidential candidate Barack Obama, Oct 27th 2007.

The only ones taking anything to the bank are the fat cats, getting fatter for every bullet fired.


World military spending


US Budget

I recall that someone was warning against a military industrial complex... and here we are

Garett Reppenhagen

Think the world would breath a sigh of relief if American population said enough is enough and got off their arse and replaced their corrupt and evil political system and ripped apart their intelligent agencies

Imagine if they said to every nation on the earth we will now act as equals and offer the hand of friendship to all

Pull troops back from overseas,reduce or close bases and then concentrate on their own economy to create more jobs and more money in the pocket of every citizen.

The American dream has for a long time been the American nightmare in reality

Trouble is I don't think the population would all rise and some states would side with the corrupt system and thus a civil war could ignite and that has the potential to be horrific

Civil war is inevitable if we wish to create a better world for every person on the planet.
We have no choice in the matter....and no hope if we do not engage the PTB in every way possible....
The truth is the elephant in the room.....If we don't do anything,.....they will enslave and bury our children.....
Those who enjoy the fruits of the system, need to be convinced to share the wealth....
This will require blood sacrifices or the tree of liberty will wither into totalitarian control of every walk of life....
Including your minds....

a reply to: Forensick

Shouldn't obama be on that list as well?

a reply to: Sublimecraft
Now, here below is the crap he was spruking when he got his crown - proof (for me at least), that he (and all of his predecessors on both sides of the great divide) is a mere muppet - given his throne in exchange for carrying out military/industrial complex policies.......

The Muppets could lead this world better then the powers that be.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Powerful post OP

Thanks

a reply to: stirling

You cannot ask them to share, they are not allowed.

It is amazing how single minded everyone is on subjects this far reaching.

Someone has made it so impossible to change our ways, and they completely control the "Elite", here.

Going after humans or throwing down weapons has not , and will never be an answer, something far beyond DRIVEN has always made sure this is not happening.

And these beings are responsible for us, in so many ways.

The only way to stop this madness is to get all the people on this planet that are into praying, serving, chanting, meditating, performing any kind of "magic" to stop and realize they are not, and never will have any effect on such a rigged game.

The entire opposite direction that has been taken by any and all is likely the direction to go, a culmination reversal of the energies that work here, the MIRROR EFFECT, some people just need to realize everything here is perfectly on time, not our time but THEIR time.

This is the part where veterans are deemed as "terrorists" and a threat to national security. Lumped in with militias , hacktivists and other patriotic groups.

The puppet potus will have no problems signing a new nefarious bill like the NDAA.


Most likely disarm them out of fear of "ptsd" as we have seen a campaign making vets looking like ticking time bombs.

Wait for it !

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But after fast & furious , bengazi , killing American citizens with drone strikes , signing away our constitutional rights , the hoaxing of OBL's death while a forged BC was produced and many many other devious deeds ... it was obviously door number 3.

Or he ran with good intentions but was threatened by the real shadow government to play ball or be another JFK. It does not matter , he is a traitor just as his predecessors will be. Unless we revolt.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Good thread.....hard to argue with facts presented...amazing with all the evidence out there that people still believe that there is a benevolent government out there with its heart looking after its citizens ....what a fkn joke

What i want to know is how to get this information out to the masses and more importantly how to get them to understand it for what it is

a reply to: Sublimecraft

More privet contractors will be moving out this month, so I don't see the war ending. Not really sure we can even call this a war, it's more like profiteering.