Was there really an advanced race living before the ice age?

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Well here is some ancient alien evidence or advanced ancient humans. . . 300 million years ago yep thats way back when dinosaurs were still a big thing.

Well here is picture of a screw found in my back yard that's 400 million years old, and made of solid molybdenum and is obviously from inter-dimensional space, so I'm gonna write a book, get my hair weird and go on Ancient Aliens!


“Yeah! That’s the ticket!”

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: FormOfTheLord



no, my knee jerk reaction as you say was based on your unconvincing video that showed NO EVIDENCE supporting its claim. Why is it MY job to do YOUR research for you? Show me the alleged scientists and experts who signed off on this, show me the labs where it was tested, show me the paper written about it. Can you do ANY of that? its on you to support your claims, its not my responsibility to play school teacher and source your claim for you.

According to sources object has been subjected to X-ray diffraction analysis to study its components. Results showed the object is made of "very pure aluminum with microimpurities of magnesium of only 2 - 4 percent."

The Voice of Russia reported a man from the Russian city of Vladivostok found a metal detail stuck to a piece of coal. The object comes in a "distinctive shape which was reminiscent of a modern tooth-wheel."

The man was lighting fire to heat his home when he spotted the odd object. Without naming the man, the 'Voice' reported he sought the help of "scientists of Primorye region" to study his find. The scientists reportedly said the object was man-made and it was supposedly 300 million years old.

The technology to craft the metal detail found by the man did not exist on Earth at the time of its supposed manufacture. The material found in the object, particularly the 2 per cent magnesium, prompted speculations that the object could not have been of Earthly origin.

The object has been subjected to X-ray diffraction analysis to study its components. Results showed the object is made of "very pure aluminum with microimpurities of magnesium of only 2 - 4 percent."

Igor Okunev, a senior fellow at the St. Petersburg Institute of Nuclear Physics, is the scientist who reportedly confirmed the age of the metal detail.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
According to sources object has been subjected to X-ray diffraction analysis to study its components. Results showed the object is made of "very pure aluminum with microimpurities of magnesium of only 2 - 4 percent."

The Voice of Russia reported a man from the Russian city of Vladivostok found a metal detail stuck to a piece of coal. The object comes in a "distinctive shape which was reminiscent of a modern tooth-wheel."
Igor Okunev, a senior fellow at the St. Petersburg Institute of Nuclear Physics, is the scientist who reportedly confirmed the age of the metal detail.

So...do your own research. Igor Okunev has a linked-in account. Ask him directly what his side of the story is. If he doesn't speak English, find a Russian-speaking intermediary. If you're serious about research, go to the horses mouth instead of parroting 'wide-eyed true believers'. Weigh what he says, and move along. Real research is fun, btw.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

According to sources object has been subjected to X-ray diffraction analysis to study its components. Results showed the object is made of "very pure aluminum with microimpurities of magnesium of only 2 - 4 percent."



The Voice of Russia reported a man from the Russian city of Vladivostok found a metal detail stuck to a piece of coal. The object comes in a "distinctive shape which was reminiscent of a modern tooth-wheel."

Igor Okunev, a senior fellow at the St. Petersburg Institute of Nuclear Physics, is the scientist who reportedly confirmed the age of the metal detail.

So...do your own research. Igor Okunev has a linked-in account. Ask him directly what his side of the story is. If he doesn't speak English, find a Russian-speaking intermediary. If you're serious about research, go to the horses mouth instead of parroting 'wide-eyed true believers'. Weigh what he says, and move along. Real research is fun, btw.

Haha dude are you serious? Talk about putting your hands over your eyes, I totally lmao when I read that you want me to go look up some researcher, someone asked me for information. Its up to you to do all that stuff if you want to, I can believe it because those are the facts, if you dont believe it, then you go look up the researcher and get the test results etc etc.

Telling me to go look up and contact researchers because you cant handle what they are saying is kinda closed minded, I dont have a problem with the information the researchers are claiming to have had.
Telling me I shouldnt present evidence which is easy to find on google and which was asked for isnt being very open minded.

This thread is about ancient advanced civilizations and I am totally on topic so um yeah now you know and knowing is half the battle!

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

Well here is some ancient alien evidence or advanced ancient humans. . . 300 million years ago yep thats way back when dinosaurs were still a big thing.

Typical Bryozoan fossil - Archimedes in particular.

link

Harte

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Well here is some ancient alien evidence or advanced ancient humans. . . 300 million years ago yep thats way back when dinosaurs were still a big thing.

Well here is picture of a screw found in my back yard that's 400 million years old, and made of solid molybdenum and is obviously from inter-dimensional space, so I'm gonna write a book, get my hair weird and go on Ancient Aliens!

“Yeah! That’s the ticket!”

I'm sure your wife, Morgan Fairchild, will have something to say about that.

Harte

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I totally lmao when I read that you want me to go look up some researcher, someone asked me for information. Its up to you to do all that stuff if you want to, I can believe it because those are the facts, if you dont believe it, then you go look up the researcher and get the test results etc etc.

Um...I'm quite content in the knowledge base and the scientific process as it stands. You say it's all wrong, it's up to you to prove it. That process prevents our society from becoming an Idiocracy.
How do you know you have the facts? You read it on the InterWebz? Oh, well then...excuse me!
Got claims? Gotta back them up. Knowledgeable others will examine your evidence and if it's good...outstanding! Your name will go down in history! Incidentally, citing a video you saw on the net is pretty damn lazy...it's not research, it's surfing.

originally posted by: Harte
I'm sure your wife, Morgan Fairchild, will have something to say about that. Harte

Thanks goodness somebody gets it! And yeah, my wife, Morgan Fairchild, agrees with everything I say!

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

I totally lmao when I read that you want me to go look up some researcher, someone asked me for information. Its up to you to do all that stuff if you want to, I can believe it because those are the facts, if you dont believe it, then you go look up the researcher and get the test results etc etc.

Um...I'm quite content in the knowledge base and the scientific process as it stands. You say it's all wrong, it's up to you to prove it. That process prevents our society from becoming an Idiocracy.

How do you know you have the facts? You read it on the InterWebz? Oh, well then...excuse me!

Got claims? Gotta back them up. Knowledgeable others will examine your evidence and if it's good...outstanding! Your name will go down in history! Incidentally, citing a video you saw on the net is pretty damn lazy...it's not research, it's surfing.

Nope no I dont have to prove anything at all.
People make me laugh when they are in denial of evidence of ancient advanced civilizations.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Nope no I dont have to prove anything at all.
People make me laugh when they are in denial of evidence of ancient advanced civilizations.

Sure. Why not.

It seems that isolated and small groups of people is not a good formula to create advancements. When we look back, advancement only happens when you get people together and form large groups and then real advances takes place when these large groups share with other large groups, unfortunately this typically happens the most during wars.

My personal theory is that throughout history super geniuses are born on rare occasions and during their short lives they push advancements in their area. When they die these advances sometimes carry forward and sometimes disappear. I worked with a super genius once and a team of 80 super smart engineers had a hard time keeping up with him, geniuses create out of nothing, smart people take those creations and make them better...

These are extremely rare events and so until a population can get large enough, like today, they do not happen very often. Today there is most likely 100s around the world since we are talking 7 billion people, but when we go back we are talking maybe one or none at any given time.

Even without my personal theory, humans in general do not gain any significant advances being isolated since we do not advance in big chunks but small steps that build on each other, so unless there was a large population at one time in our past there really wasn't any advance race prior to the ice age.

Lastly, we can not, EVER, put the words "super advance" in the same paragraph as "raw worked stone"....please...

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

Well here is some ancient alien evidence or advanced ancient humans. . . 300 million years ago yep thats way back when dinosaurs were still a big thing.

Typical Bryozoan fossil - Archimedes in particular.

link

Harte

I feel like playing the Devil's advocate here; to me that seems a bit too perfect to be a bryozoan fossil. I know the type of fossil you're talking about, but they tend to look like this: external image. That fossil seems unique in that it is so perfectly straight, and appears to be growing into a different, clustered shape that more resembles a grouping of re-bar than the slightly imperfect screws that one usually sees with these types of fossils. So, I don't know that I'd dub that a "typical" bryozoan, more like a spectacular bryozoan.

im not saying that it was aliens, but there could have been aliens in ancient times. Also humans could have been super advanced in ancient times and able to do stuff we can only dream of.

originally posted by: obscurepanda

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

Well here is some ancient alien evidence or advanced ancient humans. . . 300 million years ago yep thats way back when dinosaurs were still a big thing.

Typical Bryozoan fossil - Archimedes in particular.

link

Harte

I feel like playing the Devil's advocate here; to me that seems a bit too perfect to be a bryozoan fossil. I know the type of fossil you're talking about, but they tend to look like this: external image. That fossil seems unique in that it is so perfectly straight, and appears to be growing into a different, clustered shape that more resembles a grouping of re-bar than the slightly imperfect screws that one usually sees with these types of fossils. So, I don't know that I'd dub that a "typical" bryozoan, more like a spectacular bryozoan.

Depends on the scene.

Some Crinoids are also shown.


Harte

a reply to: Harte

Nah, man, those are clearly the remains of a long dead member of the Great Race of Yith. Clearly.

Bonus points if you get the reference without Google.

originally posted by: obscurepanda
a reply to: Harte

Nah, man, those are clearly the remains of a long dead member of the Great Race of Yith. Clearly.

Bonus points if you get the reference without Google.

Ooh, ooh, I know!
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Alright this is my quick overview on this, and I say QUICK, not gonna put links to videos and articles, just do some research on any single thing I mention below and it's pretty mind blowing, and I wrote this all off the top of my head, couldn't be bothered finding all the exact dates and all that so it's more of a general reference. I'll make my own thread with exact details and links to a lot of this stuff. And I retread through this and I do get very carried away at some points but honestly, this theory is so goddamn interesting and the implications if it were true would be ridiculous.

Just a quick "think about this" before you read on, in the last 150 years we've "invented" electricity, flight, internet, space travel, advanced medicine, nuclear bombs etc. do you think for the 20000+ years prior man made writing, maths and steel weapons and was just like, yeah, can't get more advanced then this
God no, this is ancient technology being gradually reintroduced, most history prior to hmmmm I'd say maximum 1000 years ago is largely fabricated. Also the hollow earth theory is a valid one that has been gaining more support in recent time so civilisations living below us is very possible.

Alright so onto the ancient civilisations, so aliens genetically engineered a race of humans as kindve slaves for certain minerals which are very beneficial to health and prolonged life (look up enki and the creation of man), most of them left and humans had advanced technology and thrived until the flood and destructions from the bible and the texts which it's based off of took place, the surviving humans then lost all the technology and were scattered, remembering through myths and their "gods" the wonders of the past, the human race at this time was larger, smarter, lived longer etc

The elite of these times went underground and survived with some of the technology but not all, they then re-emerged and placed themselves above the other humans as gods or leaders, civilisation then reached its pinnacle again but a nuclear war broke out and essentially the same thing happened, scattered tribes with myths while elite survived with even less technology, there are certain areas where radiation is still present from this war.

Now it is current times and the exact same thing happened, elite reemerged, attempting to make another NWO which if they manage to do so will probably end in another worldwide catastrophe, and this will probably happen soon.

"Why isn't there more evidence?" Because the only recoverable objects and archaeological finds are made of stone, any other material degrades over a couple of hundred years, there is a ridiculous amount of artifacts found showing advanced technology and aliens from thousands of years ago

"Surely there'd be historical writings on these things." Well there were but the destruction of literature has been commonplace in every era of time, always ordered by either religious or political leaders, the rough estimate is 95% of human history has either been destroyed or is kept in classified locations, and I honestly believe the bible and it's base texts are historically accurate events, imagine if someone wrote a book describing ww2 and the 6million Jews being murdered, nuclear bombs, aeroplanes, our cities, even cars, and something happened so all these technologies disappeared and mankind is split into isolated tribes again, hundreds of years pass, no one would think that these things were possible and would consider them myths or the work of god aka exactly what the bible is now.

This is obviously just what I believe it's impossible to know, if the most influential people on the planet are trying to hide this past, almost all information has been destroyed by these people, the only things we can find from past civilisations are stone tools and tablets with pictures so it's extremely hard to get any kind of evidence

I also believe the aliens that created us will come back to earth before we are destroyed again, before 2020 we will either be mostly dead or living alongside otherworldly beings
Got kindve off topic and carried away but it's related to this post I guess haha

These are just some quick interesting things to look up if you want, they found stone structures supposedly made 2 million years ago which is long before the human race supposedly evolved, the earth isn't solid it has hollow layers which can sustain life, also there are holes at the north and South Pole where some of the surviving races of the recurring destructions I talked about live, the holes are flight dead zones that's why no planes or satellites can fly over those areas, global warming is a natural occurrence it's just the leftover ice from the last ice age finally melting away, this is when the poles become inhabitable and the holes into the earth become reachable.

a reply to: JamezBluntAnonymousI have given your contribution the appropriate amount of time for all the nay Sayers, poo poo slingers, disinfo agents, and anyone else who wanted to discredit what you have written,their chance. Now, its mine.

You must be inside of my head.... I was staring to wonder if anyone else had been paying attention.

Okay, where to go from here. I have no doubt contact has already taken place, and to date, it has not been televised. I suppose its just a matter of time now... Will the truth actually set us free??? Maybe not, but it sure does clear up a few things.

Is there a natural disaster heading our way?? I don't know, but it seems to have happened a few times in the past. You mention the wars of ancient times and the wiping out of mankind. Well, yes, greed, power struggles, and incompetent choices in the past. If what I think happened in our solar system millions of years ago, actually happened, then yes, our planet may pass thought that "Zone" once again.

Will we be on our own, or will the "Cream of the Crop" be offered safe haven inside the Geod... Again, time will tell.

a reply to: Judgie

All I can say is that our "advanced" species has been around and fully "modern" for at least 200,000 years if not 10,000,000 years.
That may seem like a giant stretch of time but it's a drop in the hat for how long this planet has been here.

If the earth is billions of years old, it seems to me that "humanity" of some form, mammalian, reptilian, aquatic, insectoid, etc. These could have all separately and equally advanced over 100's of millions of years each.

Some of these "races of humanity" could have advanced enough to successfully leave the planet. Our species is starting to now and within another thousand years, we will be all over the galaxy.

My point is, of course there where advanced races before the last ice age. They, along with many other highly advanced and even more ancient races have been coming and going ever since they could.

I imagine at some point the ancient, advanced races of the earth come around and share with the newer generation (us) at various points in our development. I'm sure one day, thousands of years from now, we will also make a mass exodus to other planets or man-made habitats under ground to avoid naturally occurring changes in the earths climate.

We, as a race, are still living in the "primitive" times. A world where magical sky gods dictate the life and death of millions of people. Where mankind is still oppressed and abused through slavery. The slavery of debt, the scam of money and the religion of consumerism.
We are so stuck in the middle of the end of the real "dark ages" that the future will look back at us and wonder how we made it through (if we do, that is).

originally posted by: FinalCountdown
a reply to: Judgie


My point is, of course there where advanced races before the last ice age. They, along with many other highly advanced and even more ancient races have been coming and going ever since they could.

Well, if there were, they made their tools from flint and carved spears from wood.

Don't sound very advanced to me.

Harte