Swamp Ape/ Bigfoot... Some compelling video taken in Jan 2015.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Man it would be so awesome if he found the exact location.

It sure would. Judging by the pic he hasn't found it, but at least he's there looking.

originally posted by: GArnold
a reply to: Tangerine

I posted the video here originally. I cannot say 100% for sure if this is a "bigfoot" "swamp ape". That being said.. I think if it is.... It does not do any good to compare it to any known animal. Lets say it is a bigfoot for a second than it is a yet to be discovered biped. I also am not sure how much you can put into the tricks of light off the water and think you are seeing something.

I am on the fence about this.. I posted it because I thought it was the best video I have ever seen with a "bigfoot". I think it is better than the Patterson/Gimlin video. Something about the way it is interacting in the wild and the way it moves strikes real and I have no idea why I think that to be so. I watched it the first time and was blown away...

I also think it is not strange the person who filmed this has not come forward and does not seem to be wanting "credit" for the video.

I'm not the person who mentioned the light.

Actually, it does make sense to compare it to known animals because we know how known animals are built and move. For example, a gorilla has short legs that allow it to move in a way that looks very awkward when humans mimic it and that's how the "creature" is moving on land--like a human mimicking the movement of a great ape. By contrast, in the water, it's moving entirely like a human. The point is, it's not moving consistently. A sasquatch wouldn't have short ape legs one movement and relatively long human legs the next.

originally posted by: aynock
a reply to: Tangerine

if it were an undescribed species though the morphology would be unknown

the lack of any backstory is starting look very suspicious to me, added to the fact that there have been a couple of very recent hoaxes in the same place

i think the best chance of showing it bogus from the video itself would be a still showing the moment before the feet go into the water - i think i get the hint of a boot but it might be imagination

i find the head movement when it hears the sound oddly convincing though - whatever it is seems genuinely startled

You're absolutely right: the morphology of an unknown species would be unknown. What it would be is consistent and that's not what we're seeing in the video. The way the "creature" is moving on land is inconsistent with the very human way in which it is moving in the water.

I didn't detect any indication that the "creature" responded to the sound of the oar in the boat. If you heard an unusual sound, you would almost certainly look toward it and that didn't happen.

Folks, I have another view point regarding what is happening when the creature is getting up from the sitting position. I'm providing my opinion because earlier in this forum someone stated they think they saw a smaller creature. Perhaps a baby BF.
Upon viewing the video again it's my opinion it's not a small creature but the creature is sitting with its legs pulled up near its chest and with its feet resting on the seat close to its butt. When the creature decides to get up its moving it's feet and legs all at the same time and placing it's feet into the swamp water. This quick movement almost looks like something is there with the creature. For those who are interesting review the film again but use my theory. See what you think then.

a reply to: GArnold

Folks, I have another view point regarding what is happening when the creature is getting up from the sitting position. I'm providing my opinion because earlier in this forum someone stated they think they saw a smaller creature. Perhaps a baby BF.
Upon viewing the video again it's my opinion it's not a small creature but the creature is sitting with its legs pulled up near its chest and with its feet resting on the seat close to its butt. When the creature decides to get up its moving it's feet and legs all at the same time and placing it's feet into the swamp water. This quick movement almost looks like something is there with the creature. For those who are interesting review the film again but use my theory. See what you think then.

a reply to: GArnold

a reply to: bucsarg

Watch again

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Looks like a guy in a monkey suit trying damn hard to wade through water like a monkey.

originally posted by: bucsarg
Folks, I have another view point regarding what is happening when the creature is getting up from the sitting position. I'm providing my opinion because earlier in this forum someone stated they think they saw a smaller creature. Perhaps a baby BF.
Upon viewing the video again it's my opinion it's not a small creature but the creature is sitting with its legs pulled up near its chest and with its feet resting on the seat close to its butt. When the creature decides to get up its moving it's feet and legs all at the same time and placing it's feet into the swamp water. This quick movement almost looks like something is there with the creature. For those who are interesting review the film again but use my theory. See what you think then.

a reply to: GArnold

Every time I watch it it looks more human. It looks like a human trying vainly to maintain a stooped posture while lowering itself into the water and then walking in the water. It steps into the water like a human unsure of his movements and, while in the water, lifts his too-long-for-an-ape leg and steps out in front of himself like a person would do.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Tangerine
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Thank you for your efforts. In my opinion, this is a far more valuable approach than mere speculation about whether the video appears "authentic".

I feel the same. Research is what I like to do for fun and digging deep is the only way to find out what is true and what is not. I am hoping the guy that made the video will allow me to contact him, but I am not going to hold my breath.

Either way, I am still very intrigued by this video.

If you really want to get to the truth, invite Matt M here to explain things himself. Second hand research really gets us little in the way of answers. We have a pretty large team here that can ask the right questions.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What if this whole thing is a publicity stunt for both Lettuce Lake and "Finding Bigfoot"? The video was sent in by Matt M. or Matt Moneymaker, the host of Finding Bigfoot.
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It's been stated by all the sources that it's NOT Matt Moneymaker. If it was Matt Moneymaker that wanted to "send in a video" he would simply use his own channels/resources to get it out there, he wouldn't use non-affiliated sites. And if he wanted to do it anonymous he (surely) wouldn't use "Matt M" as a name...

originally posted by: bucsarg
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Upon viewing the video again it's my opinion it's not a small creature but the creature is sitting with its legs pulled up near its chest and with its feet resting on the seat close to its butt. When the creature decides to get up its moving it's feet and legs all at the same time and placing it's feet into the swamp water. This quick movement almost looks like something is there with the creature. ...

That's exactly how I see it as well. I don't see any babies or bags or anything being dropped.

In reply to Deaf aliens video above.....
The more I look at it....the more I am seeing two creatures.
I don't know if they're the same but I definitely see two. At first I thought the " Bigfoot " had caught some other animal and then dragged it off but looking at it again....I'm not sure if it's carrying a creature and then retrieved the same creature out of the water.

originally posted by: lambros56
In reply to Deaf aliens video above.....
The more I look at it....the more I am seeing two creatures.
I don't know if they're the same but I definitely see two. At first I thought the " Bigfoot " had caught some other animal and then dragged it off but looking at it again....I'm not sure if it's carrying a creature and then retrieved the same creature out of the water.

That's what i see, Defo drops something using it's right hand then retrieves it, again using it's right hand just before it moves off.
If it's fake then my only guess is that the guy drops a dog or a small child in a suit. because whatever it drops (and it drops it on dry land) has legs and those legs act the way any animal would act when dropped, ie, it absorbs the shock.

The bit where everyone see's a snake could be the back leg of the whatever kicking out when it's lifted up. or a tail. hence the Dog Theory.

Just got another update from the site....

This is the latest:
we have established the coordinates to the exact location where the sighting took place.

We also know the equipment he used to record it. It was not a GoPro but an iPhone 6.

Additionally, the identity of the man has been verified. He appears to be telling the truth about that part.

We have updated the articles to reflect those changes.

cryptozoologynews.com...

Again, no word about Matt.

and from the link:

Further research confirmed Matt’s identity. Additionally, Cryptozoology News was able to obtain the coordinates for the exact location where the video was filmed.

So now they have the identity of the guy confirmed and the coordinates of the location.

I've been thinking about what makes this footage so much better than pretty much every other blobsquatch since the PG film.

Its not that the subject is easier to see or more detailed. I think what this footage has that makes it more believable is:

1-Filmed in supposedly dangerous swamp.
2-Behavior. Appears to be "possibly" killing prey carrying something that looks like a tail.
3-Appears to have cone shaped head.

Thats not that impressive but does make a big difference compaired to previous footage.

I think the fact that this seems so much better than what we've seen previously, with so little to go on, makes the PG film even more impressive. This is nothing compaired to something filmed almost 50 years ago, yet its probably the best we've seen since and the subject has basically zero detail.

a reply to: Zadiel74

I strongly agree with you..... I am at the point that I want some of the mystery ( what did the creature actually do ) of this sighting to remain. IF it is a hoax.... it is an very well done one. Thanks to the "slap fishing" scene it has kept me in a degree of limbo. A degree that I wish to have remain.
The Mayor himself has welcomed this " Beast" as a benefit to the economy ...and I feel that we should do the same.....I mean with Jack-Links not needing him anymore what else was he gonna do ? I mean even a Bigfoot has to make a living. And it must pay handsomely... incase you guys didn't notice the Bigfoot had on a Rolex ( Scuba model ) it was the little flash of silver near his wrist around 1:43.
So....all in all , I think "Bigfoot" has done an EXCELLENT !!! job of making us believe that he was a human and has created a heluva debate!!!

Harry

a reply to: Vasa Croe

There was a link to another site I saw yesterday with a bf researching at lettuce park believed to be in the same area with photos. Where's that link? Or maybe it was someone else who posted it. Can't find it.

nvm. Fount it.
www.sasquatchevidence.com...

I was hoping someone actually goes to the same location and checks the water depth.

Taging for a good look later

My pet cat could last in the wild just fine. Which is more likely, that we're seeing an unknown ape species that has eluded being captured or killed since the 16th century, or that we're seeing a known ape that escaped from captivity?
a reply to: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Parthin
My pet cat could last in the wild just fine. Which is more likely, that we're seeing an unknown ape species that has eluded being captured or killed since the 16th century, or that we're seeing a known ape that escaped from captivity?
a reply to: Soloprotocol

An Ape species that has lived for thousands of Years in North America but not one Bone/fossil or any evidence whatsoever has ever been found??...
That's not a Ape, that's the World hide and seek champion you got on your hands right there.

I beleive that what sasquatch is doing on video is catching catfish. First it strikes with a stick then holds it with leg.
Here is video of the same method:
www.youtube.com...

Looks like channel catfish and we can see its distinctive forked tail.

I can see something like short stick in its right hand when it strikes and then when it walks away after passing the tree. There are water splashes by tail of convulsing fish when sasquatch is in front of tree.

One of the comments from Bigfoot Evidence that lead me to this:

cbrippeeWednesday, January 28, 2015 at 6:28:00 AM PST

Here is my take DS and I respect yours. Others have said the same as you. This is a fishing method. First you curl at the water which it does with its hands. This brings a catfish to the top without spooking it to blast away for safety. When the fish gets to the surface it makes a quick and powerful snap at it with its hand kind of like snapping a towel which is evident. This snap is directed to the head. This creature does whack or snap at the water. This will stun the fish but not necessarily kill it. As the fish lies next to it it picks it up at which point the fish goes into convulsions and kicks its tail around which is evident. The tail even hits the water. A snake on the other hand will not thrash its tail about but instead will curl itself up around the arm of the creature. It sure looks like the creature is holding it like you might think it would a fish, and as it walks out you can see still see the tail. I think fish are these creatures favorite source of protein. Many a sighting has been from a witness in the wood line witnessing a Sasquatch with its hands in the water and slapping at the water. Now when you go back and watch with this scenario in mind, you might be able to see what my wife and myself and several others that this was brought out have also.

Incidentally last week on dual survival Matt Graham taught Joe Teti a fishing technique very similar to this. They curled at some brown trout in Southern Utah and got the trout to stay still but the trout did not surface, instead they grabbed them out with both hands.
I would suspect that Sasquatches are masters of this.
Chuck