Fox News Finally Admits "Serious Factual Error" In Segment About Muslim "Zones"

originally posted by: Seamrog
The solution is Jesus Christ. It is that simple.

The koran and the hadith simply cannot, and will never stand to the scrutiny that the Christian Church imposed on its own revelation.

What scrutiny? You mean like shuffling pedophile priests to different congregations to downplay their allegations? Things like that?

A critical examination quickly exposes the folly of these texts, and casts dubious light on muhammad.

Same can be said for the bible.

Unfortunately, western culture frowns at saying anything that may upset the sensibilities of muslims - to its own peril.

No it doesn't, xenophobia is RAMPANT in the western world. The people frowning on it appear to be the minority. We certainly aren't stopping you from doing it.

What do with a virus? You inoculate - in the case, with the Light of Truth.

Soooo replace one set of mythology with another set of mythology? How does that stop fundamentalism exactly?

Until that time, we'll have angry young men believing they'll meet 72 virgins after they murder a bus load of Jews going about their day.

The only people who believe that are the xenophobes who STARTED the myth.
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Right on que...


People are entitled to have an opinion.


Unfortunately, there are a great many islamists who would kill you for yours, and kill you with great glee.

originally posted by: Seamrog

The solution is Jesus Christ. It is that simple.

You do realise that Muslims revere Jesus Christ as a prophet, don't you?

Meh

Fox news is always incorrect about stuff, but often in a way they are right... You know Paranoia in limited doses is healthy.

Bottom line is Europe has a "religious movement" atm, small, large should it be feared? Doesn't matter, Religion is the opposite of Science and in the modern world a health economy goes hand in hand with modernism not religion, as a kid who was once forced to attend religious classes after school 4 hrs a day I'll explain this, your either caught up after school STUDYING Science and Math or... One lousy book of bs...

To me Fox is a sliver right, while I don't pick sides on the fear mongering of "our religion" vs "Theirs" from a political POV, we should be moving to being a Pacific rim nation and get it on with our Asian, sane, non religious counterparts who happen to have all the money these days as well... This doesn't bode well across the Atlantic, it makes Europe a source of Terrorism entrance to the States, it makes Travel less safe and appealing, it makes trade difficult due to economic disruption, I'd say it threatens the existence of the EU and the Euro as a whole.

There is another ocean to crossed filled with Allies and trading partners

originally posted by: neformore

originally posted by: Seamrog

The solution is Jesus Christ. It is that simple.

You do realise that Muslims revere Jesus Christ as a prophet, don't you?

Unfortunately, Jesus never claimed to be a prophet - in fact, he claimed something quite different.


Too bad muslims don't take Jesus at his word.

To get back on topic:

"Fox News is part of the conspiracy to defame islam with their silly notion of "no go zones" in Paris...what a bunch of bigoted, racist BS!"

Lots of Rah-Rah's...

Some people who have actually lived there, and experienced it share their experiences and verify that there are actually 'no go zones' in Paris.

More cries of racism and bigotry and "you can't possibly be right because the Bible is a big fiction book too!!!"

Lots of heckling punctuated with the ever off-putting "meh."

In summary: "I don't care what you actually experienced, I'm going to keep my uninformed opinion! - Christians suck too!"

Carry on.

Meh.

originally posted by: Seamrog
Right on que...


People are entitled to have an opinion.


Unfortunately, there are a great many islamists who would kill you for yours, and kill you with great glee.

Everyone who bombed an abortion clinic was Christian Right? As was Kevin mcvey. As are the sickos who watch there child slowly (and horribly) wither away while trying to "faith heal" them.

You can't put any two humans in the exact same box. Let alone all Christians or Muslims. That's how the PTB control the sheeple. They point to one extreme example and pretend all of a group are the same.



Like with communism or socialism in the 80's. They convinced the whole country, not that Stalin was evil (he was), but that all plumbers making the same amount was evil. Totally silly that out grandparents never stopped to really think about it.

originally posted by: Seamrog
To get back on topic:

"Fox News is part of the conspiracy to defame islam with their silly notion of "no go zones" in Paris...what a bunch of bigoted, racist BS!"

Lots of Rah-Rah's...

Some people who have actually lived there, and experienced it share their experiences and verify that there are actually 'no go zones' in Paris.

More cries of racism and bigotry and "you can't possibly be right because the Bible is a big fiction book too!!!"

Lots of heckling punctuated with the ever off-putting "meh."

In summary: "I don't care what you actually experienced, I'm going to keep my uninformed opinion! - Christians suck too!"

Carry on.

Meh.

What?!? Every news and late night talk show personally went into the middle of the "no go zones" and interviewed little old Christian ladies to make fun of fox.... So one or 2 people on ATS who claim (with no way for us to verify it) to be from there and "it's totally true" should trump that?


Actual live video from the middle of the " "no go zones" showing what wouldn't even be considered the hood in America, from a hundred different sources.

Every French media outlet pointing and laughing at fox.

And even Fox News publicly admitting they were bull$((/Ting.


And still Christian conservatives just know there are Muslim fiefdoms in France!!! Lol



And shiria law is comming to America too HAHAHaHAHAHA!! Well as soon as we get our first Muslim congressman or senator it will!

Let me make sure I understand you correctly - this has been brought up several times in this thread:


The no-go zones as described on the TV by Fox News and Sean Hannity are complete made up BS designed to control the sheeple and make the hate the good and friendly muslims.


And you can verify this because the no-go zones as described on the TV by 'all the news and late night shows' showed you so?


Am I the only human who sees the irony here?


What you heard on the TV from Fox News was bad. What you heard on the TV from other news and talk shows is good - and 'should not be trumped by one or two people on ATS who have actually seen it firsthand because it can't be verified by you.'


You have made yourself look silly. Sad, and silly. Your claim that "every French media outlet is pointing and laughing at Fox" puts you at the front of the line for the Sarah Palin Award...


Katie Couric: 'Say Mr. Enterieri06, what French newspapers do you read?'

Enterieri01: 'All of them.'

originally posted by: Seamrog
To get back on topic:

"Fox News is part of the conspiracy to defame islam with their silly notion of "no go zones" in Paris...what a bunch of bigoted, racist BS!"

Lots of Rah-Rah's...

Some people who have actually lived there, and experienced it share their experiences and verify that there are actually 'no go zones' in Paris.

More cries of racism and bigotry and "you can't possibly be right because the Bible is a big fiction book too!!!"

Not really... We've (I've) been trying to point out that these "no-go" zones are no different than any other bad, racist ghetto. If you are the minority that they hate, you don't go into the ghetto. You still have failed to explain how these "no-go" zones are different then say a ghetto in Baltimore. Have you been to a ghetto in Baltimore? Probably not, so I guess you can't speak about how dangerous it is there.

Lots of heckling punctuated with the ever off-putting "meh."

If that is what you want to call it. Though you apparently aren't looking for real dialogue in this situation, just to laugh derisively at the people who disagree with you and pretend like you have the intellectual high ground. It's getting rather old watching your camp do this.

In summary: "I don't care what you actually experienced, I'm going to keep my uninformed opinion! - Christians suck too!"

Carry on.

Meh.

I care in that you recognize that it is no different than a group of white people lynching a black person or a group of black people playing the "Knock out" game or a group of Mexicans who shoot up some black people for entering their territory, and on and on.

It's ALL racism/xenophobia. You were discriminated against. It is sad, but it is true. It doesn't mean that these places are any more threatening than any other racial ghettos though. Muslims didn't invent racial ghettos and they didn't invent this kind of violence. Any other group does this and we all call it racism, yet when Muslims do it, all of sudden it gets elevated to whole new levels.

originally posted by: Entreri06


Everyone who bombed an abortion clinic was Christian Right?

Wrong. You cannot point to one action or statement from Jesus Christ that advocates the murder of another person...unfortunately, that is not so in islam.


The attempt to compare the bombing of abortion clinics by Christians with the depravities and atrocities committed DAILY by the islamists demonstrates the weakness of this position.

According the National Abortion Federation (these are the goons that advocate for unrestricted murder of defenseless babies by their mothers), there have been a total of 41 bombings of abortion clinics in the US and Canada. Since 1977.

In almost 40 years, a total of 41 bombings.

There are 41 bombings EVERY DAY in muslim conflicts throughout the world! [yes I made that number up and no, I don't have a source for it - if I did I would expect to be much higher].

To compare the prevalence of Christian violence with islamist violence as a means to demonstrate a prejudice or conspiracy to defame islam is profoundly stupid.

To compare the prevalence of Christian violence with islamist violence is also, profoundly stupid.

If my Photoshop skills weren't so rusty I'd behead the statue of liberty and cover the news part of Fox News with the ISIS flag.

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: Entreri06


Everyone who bombed an abortion clinic was Christian Right?

Wrong. You cannot point to one action or statement from Jesus Christ that advocates the murder of another person...unfortunately, that is not so in islam.

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

Looks like all those nasty laws from Leviticus are still in effect.

The attempt to compare the bombing of abortion clinics by Christians with the depravities and atrocities committed DAILY by the islamists demonstrates the weakness of this position.

According the National Abortion Federation (these are the goons that advocate for unrestricted murder of defenseless babies by their mothers), there have been a total of 41 bombings of abortion clinics in the US and Canada. Since 1977.

How about finishing that quote mine?

Anti-abortion violence

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[13] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[18] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[19] Incidents have included:

There's also this:

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[13] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][14][15]

And this:

In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]

In almost 40 years, a total of 41 bombings.

Anti-abortion violence extends just a TAD beyond fire bombings.

There are 41 bombings EVERY DAY in muslim conflicts throughout the world! [yes I made that number up and no, I don't have a source for it - if I did I would expect to be much higher].

To compare the prevalence of Christian violence with islamist violence as a means to demonstrate a prejudice or conspiracy to defame islam is profoundly stupid.

Says the guy cherry picking statistics.

To compare the prevalence of Christian violence with islamist violence is also, profoundly stupid.

Why? Because it makes you uncomfortable that Christians can do these things too?
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originally posted by: rupertg
If my Photoshop skills weren't so rusty I'd behead the statue of liberty and cover the news part of Fox News with the ISIS flag.

Say, did you happen to catch all the abortion providers being beheaded today at the March for Life in DC?


A million rabid Christians rioting on the Washington Mall, shooting guns in the air, throwing stones at Jews, blowing up the DC subway stations, lobbing rockets at liberals and homosexuals...all that mayhem?

a reply to: Seamrog

You do also realise that your particular leanings here - as in "christianity or nothing" are as fundamentalist as the views of those you condemn?

originally posted by: Seamrog
Let me make sure I understand you correctly - this has been brought up several times in this thread:


The no-go zones as described on the TV by Fox News and Sean Hannity are complete made up BS designed to control the sheeple and make the hate the good and friendly muslims.


And you can verify this because the no-go zones as described on the TV by 'all the news and late night shows' showed you so?


Am I the only human who sees the irony here?


What you heard on the TV from Fox News was bad. What you heard on the TV from other news and talk shows is good - and 'should not be trumped by one or two people on ATS who have actually seen it firsthand because it can't be verified by you.'


You have made yourself look silly. Sad, and silly. Your claim that "every French media outlet is pointing and laughing at Fox" puts you at the front of the line for the Sarah Palin Award...


Katie Couric: 'Say Mr. Enterieri06, what French newspapers do you read?'

Enterieri01: 'All of them.'

What?!? That was nonsensical?

The fact that EVERY not right wing new source says it's BS, is pretty good proof. That's not saying that every American left wing media site says it's bs. EVERY news site not american conservatism based says it is.

The report in question, that started the whole thing, was talking about ghettos not terrorist training sites. The entire " open terrorist training camps" in France is ridiculous.

Even Fox,the most dishonest major news site, admitted there was nothing factual about it.


I can see organized crime being taken over by Muslims and them enforcing some wierd mix of shiria law and mafia code on their members. But that's not terrorism Muslims.... That's Muslim gangsters. They wouldn't wanna blow up a building. They wanna sell that building hookers and dope.


And not trying to down anyone specifically. But people claim the CRAZIEST stuff on here. With just about all of it contradictory. Meaning where all of it COULD NOT BE TRUE. So sombodies BSing..... So yea I think it's fair to take all eye witness accounts on ATS with a grain of salt.


I trust the logic of the situation. If 1.8 billion Muslims wanted to conquer the world and force Islam on Christians. We would have to check under our toilet seats for terrorists before we took a dump.... The truth is it's just like every other religion it's just about who is leading the sheep. There are pockets of idiots twisting there dumb A$$ followers to do horrible things. While your regular Muslims just trying to raise his kids and be left the hell alone. Like just about every Christian , atheist , buddist and on and on.


Fox is the known laughing stock of every other countries MSM.... Not there liberal media.. There MSM. It's literally that either every non American conservatism is in some secret conspiracy to discredit the tea party....or fox and drudge are bsing...

originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: Seamrog

You do also realise that your particular leanings here - as in "christianity or nothing" are as fundamentalist as the views of those you condemn?

Yours is a straw man argument.


Christianity or nothing was never presented here, and it is certainly not my position.


The Christian worldview and my own personal worldview does not condone murder, and it is improper and incorrect for you to put that forward.


I will not stone a woman if I happen to catch her in adultery, and my religion WILL NOT condone it.


I will not cut the head off of my Jehovah Witness neighbor, and my religion WOULD NOT condone me if I did.


I will not drag a Mormon through the street behind my truck to throngs of cheering Christian madmen - if I did, my religion WOULD NOT condone it.


I publicly supported Mitt Romney - if I did this in Saudi Arabia, I would face the executioner.


When you have to frame an argument around a fabricated position, it demonstrates the folly of your message.

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: rupertg
If my Photoshop skills weren't so rusty I'd behead the statue of liberty and cover the news part of Fox News with the ISIS flag.

Say, did you happen to catch all the abortion providers being beheaded today at the March for Life in DC?


A million rabid Christians rioting on the Washington Mall, shooting guns in the air, throwing stones at Jews, blowing up the DC subway stations, lobbing rockets at liberals and homosexuals...all that mayhem?

Did you see the zombie apocolypsesce wave of 1.8 billion Muslims rolling over the hillside on your way to work this morning?

originally posted by: Entreri06


Did you see the zombie apocolypsesce wave of 1.8 billion Muslims rolling over the hillside on your way to work this morning?

I did not, but the Christians in Syria and Iraq certainly did.

As do the Jews in Israel.