The Most Shocking Interview That “Never Happened”

originally posted by: FyreByrd
A couple of pieces of fiction come to mind including Star Trek's Federation, "The Peter Pan Bag", "Island". Isn't it sad we prefer dystopias and our imagination leans in that direction. You know who has a utopian imagination, the socialists, the buddists, the communists. Sad huh?

Well, there is a reason that the word Utopia breaks down to mean, literally, "nowhere/no place." Even that is an example of the problem. I think the language used is key and people like Chomsky can see it unfold, as can other intellectuals.

But the general masses can't even begin to understand the implications of these groups. This is why I think it is up to us to get creative in expressing these issues in a manner that can be understood.

Someone once said; "If the truth could be explained as to be understood, it would be believed."

Didn't Hillary Clinton recently, within the last year or two, admit that "they" (the US Gov) take their orders from the TLC?

I wonder when they will do away with the charade of sovereignty. Look at all the time and effort wasted on elections. I suppose it is worth it to them if it will stave off the torches and pitchforks...

"Live Forever" heh heh... I was just listening to a song of the same name from the Interview With A Vampire soundtrack. [ETA... I am having a weird "time loop" moment... I thought it was played during the credits when i saw the movie in theater, I clearly remember that being how i discovered and came to like that song, but now I cannot find any evidence it was ever a part of any movie. Oh well sorry to distract from the topic)

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Didn't Hillary Clinton recently, within the last year or two, admit that "they" (the US Gov) take their orders from the TLC?

Yes, you are absolutely right! I had forgotten about that. Bush did something similar when he was in office too.

"Live Forever" heh heh... I was just listening to a song of the same name from the Interview With A Vampire soundtrack.

More likely it was Queen than Oasis. Or something completely different.

What could it all mean?

Very interesting thread.

Many have already expressed what I was thinking. I think most people have never even heard of the Trilateral Commission. It just wouldn't register.

Any attempt to broach this subject would be met with calls of "conspiracy theories", and therefore any discussion would be shut down before it even began.

Democracy has failed. We have democracy, but it's a sham. Our elections (in the UK) are no better than those they used to have in communist countries in Eastern Europe. Yes they had "elections" but the candidates never veered from the established system and were pretty much vetted by the authorities. You weren't going to get someone offering something truly unique or different.

In this country it's the same. The Conservatives, Labour and to a lesser extent the Liberals hold a monopoly on power, but they are practically indistinguishable from each other.

“An election cannot give a country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as two peas in the same pod.” –Franklin D. Roosevelt

A lot of our politicians are millionaires and don't live in the real world. They are in bed with big business and move seamlessly from government to private corporations (the so called revolving door).

A huge problem is the media. The media is owned by oligarch millionaires whose interests and values obviously coincide with those who are in power. They can (and often do) make or break people. Think of how many newspapers Rupert Murdoch owns. For me that's far too much power for one person to hold over the shaping of public opinion. Anyone who speaks out against the established order of things or tries to offer an alternative is pilloried or ridiculed - think Russel Brand recently. If someone really starts to make a difference and starts to make waves then sometimes more drastic measures are needed...

When I saw the Dalai Lama, Russell Brand was actually the host and introduced him and asked him questions. The Dalai Lama said that he chose Brand deliberately because of the person that he was. I might add, that this was before Brand started speaking out about the state of our society and democracy.

There is a severe apathy and ignorance when it comes to voting and democracy, which will only make the situation worse. Children don't get taught the fundamentals of democracy, politics or economics when at school and frankly it's no surprise.

“Sometimes I think that a parody of democracy could be more dangerous than a blatant dictatorship, because that gives people an opportunity to avoid doing anything about it.” - Aung San Suu Kyi

originally posted by: Kram09
Children don't get taught the fundamentals of democracy, politics or economics when at school and frankly it's no surprise.

I agree with all of what you said except for, maybe, the above quote.

I don't think children need to be taught politics or economics. What we should be teaching them is philosophy and the arts, therein lies our escape route. These two fields alone will teach them all they need to know about politics, democracy and economics without any of the indoctrination that typically comes with it.

originally posted by: FireflyStars
a reply to: FyreByrd

Very nice find.

I've always found it curious that Communist ideals are utopian but the Soviets/NK/etc are so BRUTAL about it.

Lol communism is a great idea until people get involved.

a reply to: LiveForever8

Come on, focus on the important issues, like deflated footballs...

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: LiveForever8

Yet if you were to ask the same questions to the politicians in power at the moment, you would be laughed at. It's odd that this was never followed up by the free press of the day, but it would never be asked nowadays, as the owners of the media outlets are all in on it and determined that it is never publicised.

Yeah, indeed.