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originally posted by: 3n19m470
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: SeedeAs you might have gathered, I make a distinction between "Jews" and "Talmudists". I have shown that the two are not the same. Torra, or, Talmud. It was the Talmud, and its practitioners, that was banished in so many countries throughout time.
main source of being rescued from European oppression.
The Talmudics greatly outnumber the "Torah True Jews". Making it impossible for the trues to restore their reputation.
The Talmud is currently taught in every synagogue.
You might get a argument, if you consider the Ethiopian Jews.
" There is a misconception about Judaism common among Christians and Muslims. This is the misleading idea that Judaism is a ‘biblical religion’; that the Old Testament has in Judaism the same central place and legal authority which the Bible has for Protestant or even Catholic Christianity. The legal interpretation of sacred texts is rigidly fixed in Judaism - but by the Talmud, rather than by the Bible itself (Shahak 1994). The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible may be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient that it pre-dates the Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. The New York Times wrote, “The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way.”[1] Because they are not versed in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden to perform marria ges, funerals and other services in the Israeli state. It is the natural consequence of Jewish belief of considering the Talmud superior to the Torah. "
www.islamreligion.com...
If you ask me, the Ethiopians being the oldest Jews, should be the standard for the faith. It goes to the core of what Jesus was so upset about, not the Torah Sadusees, but of the Talmudic Pharisees. For they are the ones who by hearsay, rumor, and human opinion twisted the Torah to say what they wanted it to say, by the "elders". But even then, since being a "Oral" tradition, you can not really know where it came from, and for what reasons it was twisted. Mostly for personal gain by those in power.
It is my thinking that the Pharisees where, sort of speaking, run out of town, finally, and migrated to Khazaria (Ukraine). Because, they used the Babylonian Talmud. And they themselves added and changed the Talmud to suit themselves, as "Goyim" the word itself, is rooted in Khazaria, not, the holy land and hebrew.
In any case, Jesus was dead set against them, and that is well recorded.
The Beta Israel throws a big monkey wrench into the "Talmudic" Monopoly of world Jewery.
www.thefreelibrary.com...
It really boils down to who the Pharisees really were, and why Jesus was sent, to save them, specfically. And why today its so importaint for Jewish blood, to remain "Pure". Its not about the religion, its about, the blood. Ethiopian Jews, are of the original religion, but not the blood of the Pharisees...........
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ible scholars are aware that Jesus Christ denounced the Pharisees. He said they nullified all the Commandments of God by their Tradition, "teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" (Mark 7:13; Matt. 15:6-9, etc.). His invective, in truth, cannot be equalled. All of Matthew 23 is like a whiplash. He likened Pharisaism to a whited sepulchre, indeed beautiful outwardly, but "inside full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness." Christ climaxed one condemnation after another with the expletive, "Hypocrites!" He called the Pharisees children of them that killed the Prophets. He foretold they would go on killing, crucifying and persecuting until the guilt for all the righteous blood shed from Abel on down would be upon them. "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" Christ asked.
Christ is as utterly devastating of Pharisaism in the record of John 8. Although He admitted that His hearers were descendants of Abraham, He said they were, spiritually, of the devil. Christ told them:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because the truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it (John 8:44).
originally posted by: crowf00t
a reply to: AllSeeingEye2
Yea Zeus in Hebrew such a thing is sounded as yeshua or Joshua
originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
originally posted by: crowf00t
a reply to: AllSeeingEye2
Yea Zeus in Hebrew such a thing is sounded as yeshua or Joshua
That is not true at all in any way especially phonetically.
As for the law.
Can anyone prove or show where Yashua worshipped the law and the law giver, Yaweh?
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
originally posted by: AllSeeingEye2
a reply to: FarmerSimulation
This might be the closest
Mark 12:17
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
Though I dont see that as worship
originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
I can assure you 100% he never used the word/title "god".
He prayed to Abba.
Is that Yahweh?
I do not believe there is evidence for the lawgiver being Abba to Yahshua. But He did show He was bound to it while in the flesh. He too became subjected to it.
To get back to your main point in the op.
2 races.
The wheat and the tares.
We will be intermingled until He separates us at the time of harvest.
The old testament is all about the law, the lawgiver and the covenants for the law.
What did Yahshua have to teach about the law?
originally posted by: AllSeeingEye2
a reply to: FarmerSimulation
This might be the closest
Mark 12:17
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
Though I dont see that as worship
He came to end the law because the law only brings death and nobody could follow it.
Instead He preached rebirth into the Spirit and life.
originally posted by: crowf00t
a reply to: FarmerSimulation I can say to you with an 100% certainty calling yourself a Goyim is considered fallen and having left the flock of starlings as they'll go right back to saying "we are we" at twilight without you.
consider the sardine it flocks just the same
That was me as a example as to the Talmud is pointed at.
originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
originally posted by: crowf00t
a reply to: FarmerSimulation I can say to you with an 100% certainty calling yourself a Goyim is considered fallen and having left the flock of starlings as they'll go right back to saying "we are we" at twilight without you.
consider the sardine it flocks just the same
I do not call myself goyim, or goy as I am but one. And I am his child even in my fallen state
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Appolonius is said to have been the real Jesus, or the figure of Jesus, was patterned after the life works of Appolonius. But in the Talmud another person is named to be Jesus.
Moreover, there came out of Egypt about this time to Jerusalem one that said he was a prophet, and advised the multitude of the common people to go along with him to the Mount of Olives, as it was called, which lay over against the city, and at the distance of five furlongs. He said further, that he would show them from hence how, at his command, the walls of Jerusalem would fall down; and he promised them that he would procure them an entrance into the city through those walls, when they were fallen down. Now when Felix was informed of these things, he ordered his soldiers to take their weapons, and came against them with a great number of horsemen and footmen from Jerusalem, and attacked the Egyptian and the people that were with him. He also slew four hundred of them, and took two hundred alive. But the Egyptian himself escaped out of the fight, but did not appear any more.
--Antiquities of the Jews (20.169–172)
I am open to discussion, correction, additions, deletions, and what ever else might come my way.....
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.