Informant Lies Results In One Death During No-Knock Raid

No knock raids need to go away for the most part.

At least these little small time things need to stop. They endanger everyone, cops included. They also have an abysmal failure rate. The reward vs. risk just isn't there, at all.

Now it may cost more, but having some undercover units outside waiting for the person to go to work and THEN nabbing them and THEN conducting a search seems far more safe for all parties involved. Not to mention taxpayers wallets considering all the suits brought against these when they go to crap. Spending more means focusing on bigger criminals too.

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: theNLBS

The problem isn't a lying felon; it's the no-knock warrant.

Precisely! I've read about no-knock raids being carried out based on anonymous tips. People have actually exploited this have the homes of their enemies raided. They just make an anonymous call to the police and say they know about a person involved with drug making, or even better, terror related activities. Mention drugs or terrorists and there's a good chance a home will be raided based on your anonymous tip. It has happened in the past and it will happen again until police realize that no-knock raids are wrong on every level.

This man had NO criminal record, was employed as a skilled mechanic, rented a bungalow and had even sought the police's help when he felt unsafe / concerned about being robbed........does this guy even remotely fit the profile of a "drug trafficker" ??

A law abiding citizen was falsely accused by a CRIMINAL for money given to him by the police and this somehow justified a very dangerous, aggressive, no-knock raid......resulting in the tragic death of this young man.......This insanity needs to STOP !!

SWAT went in, saw a guy with a gun and took down the threat, end of story! In their eyes it will be a justified kill as they felt threatened seeing someone with a gun.
However, not having identified themselves as police, breaking into someones home in the dark, there is always going to be the possibility that a homeowner will respond to a threat with force.

I also have to wonder, in all these cases, just why SWAT teams are used? Can't they simply approach the suspect away from their home, speak to them, arrest them if necessary and THEN visit the home in daylight and carry out a search? Maybe even do it without having to even touch a weapon at all. It sure would be easier and certain to save quite a few lives as well.

I get the impression though that these SWAT idiots just like dressing up, acting all macho like they see in the movies, and shooting someone, anyone, even the family pets will do. A "job well done and high five", then it's back in the MRAP troop carrier and off to the next threat to humanity who may be smoking a bit of weed. What a sad and sorry bunch of losers!

So, another life snuffed out.... for $2:00 of dope (he had drugs, so again justified action in their eyes), how very sad and pathetic things have become!

The CI should be up for murder. Others gets charged when their actions lead to someone's death. The police should also be but we know they are allowed to kill anyone.

a reply to: Britguy

I get the impression though that these SWAT idiots just like dressing up, acting all macho like they see in the movies, and shooting someone, anyone, even the family pets will do. A "job well done and high five", then it's back in the MRAP troop carrier and off to the next threat to humanity who may be smoking a bit of weed. What a sad and sorry bunch of losers!

I think there is much truth in that statement. Not all but many.

a reply to: roadgravel

Seriously, it's laughable. You see these guys wearing a combat rig bigger than troops going into an actual combat zone, just to serve a warrant on a non violent individual for a non violent crime, or suspected crime. It's totally ridiculous but I'm sure it makes them feel all butch and Judge Dredd-like!

Maybe that's why so many of them are all bulked up on steroids and other enhancers, it's the only way they can expect to carry all the stuff.

a reply to: Britguy

Can't they simply approach the suspect away from their home, speak to them, arrest them if necessary and THEN visit the home in daylight and carry out a search?

Maybe it has something to do with a requirement of logical thinking. Does seem a bit safer for all involved.

Such sad stories are all too common, thanks to our crazy drug policy.

a reply to: theNLBS

Terrible.