Overweight people should they be forced to go on diet

enron: junkies can't help who they are? its the exact same scenario..

you overshoot my statements, notice I remarked about the "300pounder picking up a pack of krispy kremes..." or the plate encircled gent at the restaraunt.
As I pointed out, many people have medical or metabolic reasons for their size, and you can't tell the difference in passing on the street. Unless of course they're riding a scooter with a luggage cart loaded with twinkies boxes and atleast 6 different meals fully identifiable on their shirt, which is precisely what I'm talking about.

They're only making the worlds food supply diminish faster, and slowing down everything else in the process.


[edit on 18-1-2005 by apc]

Originally posted by apc


They're only making the worlds food supply diminish faster, and slowing down everything else in the process.

Yeah..and those that have to drive gas guzzlers are using too much fuel...that silly little statement could be used on all sorts of applications

Lady, you're absolutely right.

Okay....so you just mean people like this....



I gotchya....

classic! needs the soundtrack

apc: By stereotyping "fat" people to be weak and stupid, you just revealed how weak you really are. Please dont take this the wrong way but please try not to do that in reality or else you will get some serious medical bills to pay!
Having said that, i believe that obesity is a major problem, A MAJOR NATIONAL PROBLEM.
Obesity does affect every one of us! Higher health care costs. More animal factories where animals are tortured and killed so some fat guy can stuff himself with 15 cheeseburgers. Do you want to biggie size that? Its only a F*ckin dime more?
If its anyone to blame its the corporations that take advantage of the weakness of people who overeat.
Can someone name me one advantage of obesity? NONE!

actually they're making themselves dimish faster because their writing their own death sentence, the food supply would actually be better off because those that do take care of their bodies don't have to worry about food shortages, at least the supermarket anyway, because all the enlarged organisms will be at krispy creme.

Fat people have the choice to be fat, it's their right, take that away and you might as well wipe away any other freedoms people think should be controlled.

why stop there right.

I notice the scope of this discussion really hasnt been defined. Are we talking about all obese people the world over, those in America, or just the North American continent? If you really look at it its the US itself that has the probelm with being over weight, which honestly is suprising considering how we are hammered with advertising campaigns to encourage us to be vain and obsessed with beauty, riches and trends that mean nothing.

Maybe its not so much the people as it is the culture and way things seem to be. Our overabundance of absolute crap in supermarkets is a starting point. So many options to poision our systems its not even funny; and most of it is microwavable! I would like to see numbers on how many people have home-cooked meals versus nuked food and their weight.

I agree that some people have genetic or medical issues causing them to be obese, but some people are large and simply cannot loose the weight; i had a grandmother who came in in the upper 20lb reigion of 200, though probably 300 to be realistic. Guess where her weight came from? Having a kidney failure and the resulting health issues. She had a diet far more restricted than most dieters have yet her weight wouldnt shift. TrueLies is right, if we start telling people they have to eat healthy, eventually everyones guilty pleasures will come under fire as dotors change their monthly stance on what is and is not healthy for us.

Originally posted by alternateheaven
So many options to poision our systems its not even funny; and most of it is microwavable! I would like to see numbers on how many people have home-cooked meals versus nuked food and their weight.

I was thinking that when I was at the supermarket today...
But then I remembered what my mother told me.

" Everything your body really needs is on the perimeter of the supermarket, all the junk and processed foods are in the center.

All the staples, produce, dairy, are on the outside, thats all you need.

I monitered what I bought today and saved an awful lot.

Grabbed some cheeses, fresh shrimp, celery, brocolli and dill for a salad, two oj's, and some turkey sticks, although I gotta say i feel bad now that I bought them. I saw turkey's running across the street up north and to think they were in a plant being cut and bloddied, just makes me wanna yak... maybe i'll return them.

anyway, america, canada, the uk, and any other western country is all like this.

The overabundance of just crap is overwhelming on some people, it may drive them to depression, it could lead to an inferiority complex that could drive them to over eat. It could be a multitude of things.

Let's just say that the only thing that can change obesity is self control and proper nutrition awareness...

Being aware is very important, acting on what you know is totally different.

I_s_i_s: you need to try reading and less assuming.
And:
"If its anyone to blame its the corporations that take advantage of the weakness of people who overeat."

Thank you for reenfocing my point.

And screw the animals, who cares? They dont, they're dead and on my plate! Waa waa waa tortured animals. THEY ARE FOOD. Either locked in a cage waiting to hop on the conveyor belt or still alive getting their guts ripped out by a predator. Personally I'd take the conveyor belt, atleast it's quick and relatively painless.
If it moves, Ill eat it! mmm protein.

Yes there would not be such a problem if the abundance of edible garbage wasn't so great, but people chose to eat it, knowing full well what they are eating.

There is a word for doing something stupid and knowing that it is stupid: stupid. There is another word for knowing what is the smart thing to do, ignoring it, and through ignorance doing the stupid thing: weak.

Weak... and stupid.

maybe Ugly People should have to wear bags over thier heads too...


wrong... just wrong... :shk::shk:

And screw the animals, who cares? They dont, they're dead and on my plate! Waa waa waa tortured animals. THEY ARE FOOD. Either locked in a cage waiting to hop on the conveyor belt or still alive getting their guts ripped out by a predator. Personally I'd take the conveyor belt, atleast it's quick and relatively painless.
If it moves, Ill eat it! mmm protein.

There's your compassion shining thru like a beacon! I'm not surprised anymore about your earlier comments on picking on fat people. :shk:

Our overabundance of absolute crap in supermarkets is a starting point

Indeed! Not to mention the fact that some of the crap is addictive cuz things like MSG is added in. C'mon people our bodies were'nt made to handle this!

Fat people have the choice to be fat, it's their right, take that away and you might as well wipe away any other freedoms people think should be controlled.

Sending kids to school is mandatory. YOu think the kids like going to school? THey hate it! So should we just give em free will and tell em how bright their future is going to be? We send the kids to school becuz we know that we're doing that for their betterment. Its a long term goal! Same thing with fat people.
You yourself proposed a better method to educate them of the dangers of overeating. For starters, there should be more health awareness campaings and just like ciggs there should be big warning signs on twinkies or something.

" Everything your body really needs is on the perimeter of the supermarket, all the junk and processed foods are in the center.

I never noticed that. Thats friggin interesting. Thanks for the tip!!

Why the hell should I have compassion for my food? Last I checked the lion doesn't show pity for the zebra before it rips the zebra's living flesh to shreds.

Compassion is a weakness that must be avoided if survival is desired.

AND once again you need to open your eyes. I'm not making fun of fat people, just the moronic ones. Would you laugh at the guy on the news who blew his head off by lighting a firecracker in his mouth? I sure as hell would, and did. When stupid people do stupid things, its funny to watch, and you know it. If you can't admit that, you need to put down your Bible because it's poisoning what little wisdom you have left.

Originally posted by apc
Why the hell should I have compassion for my food? Last I checked the lion doesn't show pity for the zebra before it rips the zebra's living flesh to shreds.

I personally think your being an a$$ purpose......the statement above does not surprise me at all in connection with you. There are some things that do, or at least are supposed to, separate human from the wild animals, compassion to name one.....it would appear from your writings here, you have not progressed too far....and I'll take the warning and/or point deductions to say it...

[edit on 1/26/2005 by LadyV]

Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by apc
Why the hell should I have compassion for my food? Last I checked the lion doesn't show pity for the zebra before it rips the zebra's living flesh to shreds.

I personally think your being an ass purpose......the statement above does not surprise me at all in connection with you. There are some things that do, or at least are supposed to, separate human from the wild animals, compassion to name one.....it would appear from your writings here, you have not progressed too far....and I'll take the warning and/or point deductions to say it...

LadyV You stole the words outa my mouth. Heck even animals feel a degree of compassion. You apc fail to realize the distiction between an animal and a human being. And pointing at a fat person and mocking them is just disgusting. There's no way we can solve this problem if we cant work together. If we make fun of them how the hell does it make us any better than the cold-hearted-swines?
HOw is a guy putting a fire cracker in his mouth have anything to do with a fat person? If a person gains excessive weight it most probably becuz of overeating or maybe a medical problem. It feels good to eat and they lose the will power....
Whether we try to make a difference or not, we have to start by acknowledging them as fellow humans in need of help.
APC! Go put a firecracker in your mouth! You're a waste of earth-space!

One day you will wake up and realize that WE ARENT any better than your 'cold-hearted-swine'. Then again, you'll probably never wake up.

We're all just apes homesick for our trees.

Oh most of us ARE very much like apes fulfilling our basic needs and thats it. But if we dont step up and strive to differenciate ourself from the apes we wont ever be successful. You cant just give up adn say yea i'm awake i'm an animal let me stratch my nethers and worry about food.

The opposite is life. Once you realize that there is no difference, once you realize that all humans, all, are truely primitive, brutal, violent creatures, THEN you can be successful. If you continue to waste energies on nonsense ideas that only cost you time and let someone else, someone who has accepted these things, get to the goal first, well then... where does that leave you? Being compassionate and empathizing with everyone else that gets to go home empty handed.

Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Oh most of us ARE very much like apes fulfilling our basic needs and thats it. But if we dont step up and strive to differenciate ourself from the apes we wont ever be successful. You cant just give up adn say yea i'm awake i'm an animal let me stratch my nethers and worry about food.

I_s_i_s I am assuming from your reply he is at it again....a word of advice, though many will not use the "ignore" button, I do. I don't use it often, I have only two people now on ignore, but there are certain types of individuals that I will not associate myself with in real life and I see no reason why I should on an the internet either....it's wonderful feature, you also don't receive private messages from those you have on ignore.......

Thanks for showing kindness LadyV.
I will use ignore if its comes down to it. But i'm resigning from this thread. APC is just ranting now...SOrry apc. Maybe later... eh?