Who is Lucy??

originally posted by: Emeraldous
a reply to: OneManMasquerade

Well Lucy is a movie and also in the movie they explain pretty much that the homonid named Lucy was different a mutation or esoterically a dis-torsion. Great now take a purple powder and you can go from being a muppet to become a real boy like pinocchio. And I think its esoterically illegal/impossible to kill a real boy. Marionettes IDK but your distorsion will speak to you where the chips might fall.

gollem? you suggesting adam was a gollem?

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: OneManMasquerade


I think IamAbeliever has a great point about the Garden of Eden story link. Perhaps it was the tree of knowledge you found yourself under and some of it's knowledge, in the form of an apple, bumped you in the head allowing you to then notice the white clothed woman who gave the name "Lucy" maybe as in Lucy the illuminated.

The only problem is when she said " I'm standing where he stood once and you're standing where they stood once". So "he" is Lucifer and "they" are Adam and Eve and "you're" standing in their place and she has taken Lucifers position. Who is she really then?

Nice dream.

I am not quiet sure who she is, what I can say is that I had a pigeon on my window staring at me today when I woke up. Coincidence

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a lucy is a single cigarette


wow i can't believe that satan has resorted to throwing apples now.

I tell you that much it sure bloody hell hurt

originally posted by: MrMaybeNot
a reply to: OneManMasquerade

It's obviously Lucifer.

The beast is after you, run for your life.

Good luck!

/s

That's not funny! but I will take the Heineken from you

originally posted by: Daughter2
I'm sure your dream was based on symbolism but when I saw your title this creepy UN organization popped in my mind:

www.lucistrust.org...

The organization is like the religion of the UN. Here's two of their guidelines:

"Three: The widespread expectation that we approach the "Age of Maitreya", as it is known in the East, when the World Teacher and present head of the spiritual Hierarchy, the Christ, will reappear among humanity to sound the keynote of the new age.

Four: There are millions of mentally alert men and women in all parts of the world who are en rapport with the Plan and work to give it expression. They are people in whom the consciousness of humanity as one interdependent unit is alive and active. They regard the many differing national, religious and social systems in which they serve as modes of expanding human consciousness and ways by which humanity learns needed lessons. Their primary function is, through their living example, to give humanity a new and better vision of what life should be."

That is a rather odd situation and it does make me wonder - What is their true and real agenda?

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

pigeon = gullible. dunno, maybe, maybe not. thinking not.
but since lots of us picked up the eden theme, seemed only fitting to mention what the text actually says so the metaphors would more precisely fit. can't assume yourself or the others, in a role in which the details are .....shall we say, misunderstood, as that would confuse you, would it not?

I'm running with maybe your brain is using "Lucy" as a symbol for a ancient woman from the past trying to get you to recognize something you're missing.

Lucy = Australopithecus afarensis is an extinct hominid that lived between 3.9 and 2.9 million years ago.[1] A. afarensis was slenderly built, like the younger Australopithecus africanus. It is thought that A. afarensis was more closely related to the genus Homo (which includes the modern human species Homo sapiens), whether as a direct ancestor or a close relative of an unknown ancestor, than any other known primate from the same time
en.wikipedia.org...

Think of this as having a archetypal type meaning more than a literal one?

Maybe something in your past needs looked at?
Is something from your past reoccurring that you are not seeing?

I'd ask myself, if someone from a couple of million years ago showed up what would they say to me? Specifically?

Hope this helps

I'd see Lucy as an archetypal "wise woman" sort and look to the minutia in the dream for more clues.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: OneManMasquerade

pigeon = gullible. dunno, maybe, maybe not. thinking not.
but since lots of us picked up the eden theme, seemed only fitting to mention what the text actually says so the metaphors would more precisely fit. can't assume yourself or the others, in a role in which the details are .....shall we say, misunderstood, as that would confuse you, would it not?

I don't even understand what role I am meant to play in all this. Also every time I close my eyes now I get flashes of the garden, they are brief and split second. Kind of like a camera flash going off in your mind with a quick image, it is rather interesting and confusing to know that this is partially how the elders used to communicate.

You do seem informed with several eons behind your belt

originally posted by: Caver78

I'd see Lucy as an archetypal "wise woman" sort and look to the minutia in the dream for more clues.

I have dreamed of owls also lately which represents Athena the goddess of Wisdom etc. Not including several very odd dreams as well.

Today I had a pigeon outside my window when I woke up. If it is there again tomorrow I'll try to take a picture and post it here.

a reply to: Caver78

so you agree, the snake (dna) in the tree symbol is genetic inheritance? which is then no.big.surprise, since we are (presumably) composed at the cellular level, of dna. big shocker. heh heh heh

so onemanmascarade is basically dreaming about being a human being with ancestors, one of whom is presuming upon him/her that he/she be superior to his/her ancestors. i gotta say, the surprises are just coming fast and furious. (yes i'm being facetious, but i'm not terribly fond of the magical mystery version of the garden event, since it's clearly about mundane scientific stuff, like dna, genetics and sexual reproduction.

Pigeon = symbolizes a need to return to the security of home. They help and find the love of & homelife that we have either given up or lost.
Source- Ted Andrews book Animal Speak

I'm guessing the plants you saw in the garden have their own meaning independently as well, so you would need to google those as well before you can suss out the full meaning of your dream.

If this doesn't resonate with just mention it & I'll stop this line of thinking.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Caver78

so you agree, the snake (dna) in the tree symbol is genetic inheritance? which is then no.big.surprise, since we are (presumably) composed at the cellular level, of dna. big shocker. heh heh heh

so onemanmascarade is basically dreaming about being a human being with ancestors, one of whom is presuming upon him/her that he/she be superior to his/her ancestors. i gotta say, the surprises are just coming fast and furious. (yes i'm being facetious, but i'm not terribly fond of the magical mystery version of the garden event, since it's clearly about mundane scientific stuff, like dna, genetics and sexual reproduction.

It is rather odd and funny, when you said the snake and dna. I flashed on something to do with 13 pillars?

I then flashed on 2 pillars and bloody rags wrapping between them, it almost looked like and resembled a DNA strand - Does this mean we have only 2 pillars?

If so does that not mean we had 13 before? and then How is it possible to knock down a staggering 11?

I think I'm going to be staying out of this garden

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

ah yes, the infamous stop codon. guy was a mean bugger. he said stop and we all fell down, eventually. i vote a new leader or rather, the original, as he seems much more agreeable and didn't mind if we like shared the universe with him for longer than 120 years. yes, a much nicer boss.

i say

are you blonde, btw? may not have been a direct ancestor. but the serpent thing? that ain't a white man condition. that's a human condition, just in case you weren't clear on all that.

a reply to: undo

Actually no, I was thinking more along the lines of Mercia Eliade's thinking, using Lucy as a archetype of the "feminine".
Unless the OP declares they are a devout Catholic or Jewish I wouldn't think the dream tied to the Adam & Eve parable.

What I do think is the OP's subconscious is attempting to send him a message using everything in the dream to outline a story. That story is probably a metaphor for what needs addressed in his life.

Since every person is an individual the OP's correspondences with the symbols shown in the dream will be unique to him. It's up to him to paint the picture with his OWN meanings to gain anything by deciphering it. For us to ascribe meanings will make the message meaningless to Onemanmascarade.

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

Um...I didn't say anything about a snake???

Garden?
Gardens are places of growth, you'd cut yourself off from growth? Really??? Of course you may have a "brown thumb" and gardens to you mean wastelands?

Dreams are simpler than you are making this. Your brain gave you the pieces, just google the pieces and find the message.....LOLOLOL
Generally our subconscious doesn't screw around. It usually gets right to the point.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: OneManMasquerade

ah yes, the infamous stop codon. guy was a mean bugger. he said stop and we all fell down, eventually. i vote a new leader or rather, the original, as he seems much more agreeable and didn't mind if we like shared the universe with him for longer than 120 years. yes, a much nicer boss.

i say

are you blonde, btw? may not have been a direct ancestor. but the serpent thing? that ain't a white man condition. that's a human condition, just in case you weren't clear on all that.

No I am blackish hazel. I do have odd eyes though they are somewhat goldish with hazel.

My mother did say I was an odd baby at 2 months I had hair down to my shoulders,so she had to tie my hair into pony tails.I mother of the year

I do not remember my early years but she did say that I was really fixated on fire between 5-7 years of age. She said I used to always stare at the fire when we went out to bbqs or went camping. I also tended to play with a stick that had embers and swing it around to create smoke trails.

I guess I was a very odd child

a reply to: Caver78

well that's fascinating since your version is about the exact same thing: genetic inheritance.
but i can see why you ventured into archetype areas, since she provided a clear description of the woman, fully dressed even. which is not a condition of the garden. oh that's interesting.

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

Lucy

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: OneManMasquerade

Lucy

Haven't seen that movie yet but people here say it's good. I might take a look at it some time this week

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

sounds like you're a bit of a savant. that's not a bad thing