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New Twist: Charlie Hebdo Police Investigator Turns Up Dead, ‘Suicided’

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

In the French news, they mention him having bouts of severe depression. Realistically, I think he found the responsibility of the investigation and events too much to cope with. Shortly before the suicide, he'd returned from meeting the family of one the victims. This may have been a tipping point for him.

It's awful how much an act of hatred can resonate through families and communities. This poor guy is another victim and he also leaves behind family. Terrible events seem to have unforeseen consequences for weeks and years after they happened.

ETA - last year in the same offices, another officer committed suicide in the same way. Fredou was the man who found the body and suicide note. Lots of tragedy here...


While I'd like to believe this theory the question has to be asked - why all these suicides from French police/investigators?

Things to consider:
1. officer/investigator suicide rates of other western nations (e.g., USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Spain)
2. crime rates and rate of crimes that are "shocking" in France and perhaps the precinct Fredou worked out of

It doesn't make sense. More stats needed, it seems strange for a police officer of any nation that should be "trained" to deal with such things suddenly loses it and kills himself.

OP provided some solid evidence in a previous investigator suicide that should make anyone question this one.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: spy66

No, your being disrespectful. If your idea of decency is making up conspiracy theories, then you are not very smart.
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: TsukiLunar
a reply to: spy66

No, your being disrespectful. If your idea of decency is making up conspiracy theories, then you are not very smart.


I will take that into acount when i am found guilty.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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Not only is it weird that this investigator committed suicide shortly after the attacks, I find it strange that the editors of Charlie Hebdo is making their next issue available in several different languages. They also seem very excited to get the next issue to the masses and are expecting it to sell several million copies.

Article About Charlie Hebdo's Next Issue

If 12 people were shot by Islamic extremists/terrorists in their office, why are they concerning themselves with translating this "magazine" into several different languages and selling millions of copies? You'd think they'd be mourning after such a violent, terror filled attack. Right?

This whole story is getting a little TOO weird, if you ask me.

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Wow...logic. Whoda thunk it?

False flaggers do not need evidence...just a gut feel. In the last 3 months there have been 379 claims of false flag operations on ATS.

60% of all statistics were made up, 50% of the time.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: lovebeck

What? You do not understand an act of defiance? The publishing of the next magazine, by anyone with a spine, would be an absolute necessity. Anything to the contrary would be capitulation to the arab nazis.

I wholly support this publication and would buy a copy if I lived in France, or if it had happened over here to, say, Mad Magazine or whatever.



posted on Jan, 14 2015 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: lovebeck

What? You do not understand an act of defiance? The publishing of the next magazine, by anyone with a spine, would be an absolute necessity. Anything to the contrary would be capitulation to the arab nazis.

I wholly support this publication and would buy a copy if I lived in France, or if it had happened over here to, say, Mad Magazine or whatever.


Way to totes miss the point...

Which has nothing to do with being defiant, btw.



posted on Jan, 14 2015 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978


As the dust settles from this week’s terror extravaganza in France, more loose ends are turning up (or being tied up), with this latest bizarre bombshell which is already fueling speculation as to the covert nature of the Charlie Hebdo false flag affair.

At the time of his death, police claim to have not known the reason for his alleged suicide. This was reflected in their official statements to the media: “It is unknown at this time the reasons for his actions”. However, a back story appears to have been inserted simultaneously, most likely from the very same police media liaisons, who then told the press that Fredou was ‘depressed and overworked’. For any law enforcement officer in France, it would seem rather odd that anyone would want to miss the biggest single terror event the century, or history in the making, as it were.


New Twist: Charlie Hebdo Police Investigator Turns Up Dead, ‘Suicided’

I don't know how relevant this is to the overall picture developing in Paris, but this is certainly a strange case.

Helric Fredou was involved in the investigation of the Charlie Hebdo murders and had been assigned to investigate one of the victims family. Apparently he then went back to the police hotel and shot himself before completing the report. He didn't leave a note or anything to suggest why he decided to end his own life, but the authorities are blaming depression and burnout.

In November 2013, a similar event occurred when another SRPJ investigator committed suicide, but on that occasion a note was left and 'personal reasons' were cited.

It'so not being reported in the MSM for some reason, but there is a link to the original report (in French) in the article.

So, coincidence or something more sinister?


This twist is fully supported by me, without hesitation. There are also a few other smoking guns... You should check out the interview os one of the survivors...

http://(link tracking not allowed)/17JigWI



posted on Jan, 14 2015 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: lovebeck

What? You do not understand an act of defiance? The publishing of the next magazine, by anyone with a spine, would be an absolute necessity. Anything to the contrary would be capitulation to the arab nazis.

I wholly support this publication and would buy a copy if I lived in France, or if it had happened over here to, say, Mad Magazine or whatever.


This man would not have got the position he was in if he could not handle or mask stress and depression. I think he would have been a little preoccupied recently to be sulking in his depression. If he couldn't put his depression away for the job it would have been noticed by now and if it was noticed he would not have been given the responsibility of this case.

This officer is the perfect profile for someone who you would not easily sway off a case. He is a career cowboy. No children to worry about. He is the type to be set in his ways and if playing ball in a mass hoax and pretending to serve justice is not his way then "suicide" may have been the only option to keep this guy off his task.



posted on Jan, 14 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Wow...logic. Whoda thunk it?

False flaggers do not need evidence...just a gut feel. In the last 3 months there have been 379 claims of false flag operations on ATS.

60% of all statistics were made up, 50% of the time.



That must tick so many pro-BS'ers right off. No matter how much BS you stack up against them they just won't back down. You call them "illogical" and "silly" and what ever else you can and it won't change these peoples opinion. And what's worse there is more and more of them everyday. It's like they are immune to cover stories. I bet that suck for BS'ers.



posted on Jan, 17 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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Here is some more info on this case :

A French independent journalist called the family of Fredou and he talked with his sister :
- The sister said she cannot believe that her brother killed himself, that when she heard the bad news she immediately thought "someone must have killed him but this kind of stories only happen in movies". She said that he was not someone who would do that, that he was someone with a great discerning mind and cold blooded. She said that once, he found the body of someone who killed himself and that he said to his mother "I would never do that to you". She adds that he was not depressed.

- She said that her brother was at home when he has been called at 23:30 pm and that he went to his office. She said that according to his colleagues, the day had been really tense. She said people from Paris were present. She said that Helric was about to write a report and she adds that there was frictions between people there, but she doesn't know what it was about. Fredou said that he had an urgent call to make and went to his office, seeing that he was not coming back, his colleagues went to his office and found him dead. [note to myself : they didn't hear any gun shot?]

- She said police took all the computers and they searched his house. She adds that top national police officers from Paris came January 8 to convince her and her mother that it was indeed a suicide.

- She said that her mother and her have been contacted at 5am, 4 hours after the event, and that they have insisted to see the body but that they have been authorized to see the body only in the afternoon. When they saw the body, he had a bandage on the forehead, on the side of the head there was a cut because of the autopsy, and at the back of the head there was nothing, no hole, no wound.

We also now know that Fredou was investigating the family of Jeanette Bougrab, who had a relationship with Charb, the boss of Charlie Hebdo who has been killed January 7 in the attacks. She is a politician and is pro-zionist.

Also to note, the current minister of security affairs and police, Cazeneuve, was the mayor of Cherbourg when Fredou was head of the police of Cherbourg from 2010 to 2012.

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