A request for ATS to put back and show the time-honored slogan 'Deny Ignorance'

I say, let the owners of this site decide what they feel is appropriate for today.
It is their site, and they have managed to keep it viable so far.
It does not effect the way any of us think, and we post according to a set of rules that make sense in today's environment, which is always up for modification.

a reply to: LiveForever8

The slogan was one lots of people liked, and when it was taken down for what I thought were space limitations it was missed by some of us. To me Deny Ignorance means simply that, to post data which corrects both public and in-site perceptions, to share information which adds that information to a reader's accumulated understanding of a subject, and/or to focus our abilities to share research and 'what we've found to be true' with people who enjoy that type of informational shift in their knowledge base.

a reply to: Aleister

I get that.

I just don't understand what difference it makes to you whether it is still the 'official slogan' or not, whatever that means. Just seems strange to me.

a reply to: LiveForever8

No particular reason other than liking it. As I said, when I posted the OP I just assumed it was still the slogan, one which used to be shown very prominently in the masthead, and so I thought it was removed for space limitations. I didn't plan on this becoming a debate on if it should be our slogan or not, so that is becoming an unintended sub-topic of this thread.

a reply to: Aleister

Okay, no problem.

It wasn't my intention to go off topic.

a reply to: LiveForever8

No, you were asking and bringing up a fair point working off my awkward wording of the title of this thread (I just tried to edit it but my time window is closed). It will be interesting to see if the owner's still consider it the slogan. I just assume it is (haven't read of a change). Or is it like an unofficial slogan. Someone older and wiser than us may know the answer, from back in the day when it first appeared.

a reply to: Aleister

without wishing to upset any one or appear reluctant to change I think that Deny ignorance is better than One turd at a time.

But saying that just becuase it's not there it does not mean you have to stop doing it.

a reply to: Aleister

I still consider it our slogan, but I like the intention behind it even better... The following is off our current "About ATS Page"

The simple yet effective motto of our membership is "deny ignorance", which signifies an effort to apply the principals of critical thought and peer review to the provocative topics covered within. More than a slogan, our members have embraced the motto as our collective cultural standard, demanding all to aspire to a higher standard. These simple two words have galvanized a broad membership that spans the spectrum from highly speculative conspiracy writers to staunch doubters. The result is a unique collaboration of diverse individuals rallying under this simple statement to learn from each other, discover new truths, and imagine new ideas that expand our minds.

This motto has life. It has purpose. It demands ATS members to think.

It is a state of mind.

It is a sense of purpose.

It is a statement against the paradigm.

It is a rage against the mindless status-quo.

The idea of "deny ignorance" isn't a goal that ATS hopes to accomplish. Instead, it's a challenge. A call to all those who come here to aspire to a higher state of awareness through informed discussion and debate.

Deny ignorance is what we do.

It's how we think. It's how we talk. It's how we listen.

Ignorance is the social disease of history. Is the evil that men do, the reason history repeats, and the cause of intolerance.

We deny it. it's not welcome here. Within these boundaries, it has no strength.

Here, ignorance is denied.

a reply to: Springer

Cool, a beautiful summary of the slogan. If I've read it before it was long ago. Would you consider linking that to the top of ATS's pages, via using the slogan there again? If so, what do you think about the idea of a contest to put the words into a design? And if you don't have the room to include it again, how about an informal design contest? Thanks.

a reply to: Springer
Well, as long as we're kvetching, I take a little offence at the side of my screen displaying the wording: 'exposing BS one turd at a time'.

It makes the site look high school and vulgar, and not to be taken seriously. Show some class, dudes.

a reply to: Aleister

Although impractical it would be cool if after posting you had a checkbox asking you to confirm that you have denied ignorance before proceeding.

a reply to: Aleister

I made this just for you.

A star for you in a non starrable thread.

a reply to: LOSTinAMERICA

a reply to: nonspecific

No need for a star. We're all rock stars!

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: Springer
Well, as long as we're kvetching, I take a little offence at the side of my screen displaying the wording: 'exposing BS one turd at a time'.

It makes the site look high school and vulgar, and not to be taken seriously. Show some class, dudes.

i agree with you 100% on this. very childish sounding.

a reply to: SkipperJohn

We may say this but as we grow older highschool gets older too.
Although in England and not really used to using the term Highschool all three of my stepchildren are now adults and no longer children.

Maybe it is time for us to step aside and let nature take it's course, my idea of humour differed greatly from that of my parents and I know I was right and they were a bunch of outdated fools.

i still have it as my sig. about 5 years now. the problem is that ignorance and conspiracy aren't mutually exclusive.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Times 100000000.

The "sanctioned: scatalogical themes around here lately really gross me out. Last time I said something I got an eyeful from an owner though, so...

a reply to: Aleister

Thought I'd throw in a design myself since it's really quiet in the design thread..



I didn't know how else to visualise the slogan..

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The slogan encourages you to look for flaws in your own thinking. When I was growing up I thought many dumb things and still do. Sometimes we have to be reminded to be critical of ourselves, since it's tempting to cherry pick our information. I think at the root of cherry picking is the desire to conserve energy. Anytime we discover we're wrong it's like having the floor beneath you removed. It's a lot of work to reconstruct yourself. It's best to be reminded by friends, though, not big government slogans.