Russia says drivers must not have 'sex disorders'

originally posted by: Tardacus
I think the tea party folks would like a law like this in America.

how will they enforce this law, will they make you drop your pants when you go to get your drivers license to make sure you have all the parts you`re suppose to have?

The Tea Party/Libertarians do not care about gender, sexuality issues; these issues are related to religious organizations that permeate all political parties and your lack of education in these matters perpetuates this uneducated type of point of view.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Maybe take drivers licences away from alcoholics...

Since they would be in the majority of drink drivers...



You really have to look at the demographics of dangerous driving...


I don't see how these sexual "disorders" fit into this...

But Russia never has been one to exude "Human Rights campaigners".

a reply to: MALBOSIA

Even if I agree with you that certain sexual preferences could qualify as Mental Health issues...

Do they really impair cognitive ability?


I mean why not go the whole hog and ban depressives, bi polars, OCDs etc...

I don't see how sexual preference would affect driving ability.

Now to watch my post get quoted for the next 4 pages

Quite prophetic, however I do genuinely wonder how you feel about what I said.

Russia has listed transsexual and transgender people among those who will no longer qualify for driving licences.
Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.
The government says it is tightening medical controls for drivers because Russia has too many road accidents.

"Pathological" gambling and compulsive stealing are also on the list. 

Is this the complete list?

a reply to: muchmadness

regularsexuals

Actually, we prefer the term cisgenders...



Good old South Park, can be very educational

Why have the resident russophiles not stopped by to explain how this is actually all the U.S.'s fault yet? Or did I miss it?

As to the comment about America minding it's own business: until "America" weighs in on this, the comment is unnecessary. ATS is international, and we all can express our opinion on any country I think.

a reply to: muchmadness

I was just feeling sorry for female officers on Russian roads forced to strip search certain "Blondes". ....nuff said.

a reply to: Shamrock6

So true...


& I doubt we'd see many of those people in a thread about Saudi Arabian women...


If anyone needs boycott, sanctions & divestment... Saudi Arabia is right up there.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

Not gonna give you the satisfaction....I suggest others don't as well.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Why have the resident russophiles not stopped by to explain how this is actually all the U.S.'s fault yet? Or did I miss it?

It is American fault because America made Russia paranoid about this issue.
I don't endorse such laws though I also don't accept that drivers license is "unalienable human right"
Btw they also making rules softer for some categories of physically disabled people.

With all this LGBT I don't know who is more hypocritical Russians or the West.
Consider this Sochi 2014 song. West says there is "prosecution" of anything LGBT and T.A.T.U. was famous exactly for this lol

youtu.be...

a reply to: kitzik

All the things she said, running through my head....



I have to disagree on one aspect...

A drivers licence is a privilege that can be revoked or denied in certain situations...

It's not a human right.


I think this law is astonishingly stupid though, for reasons explained.

a reply to: kitzik

Oh no...you have just reminded me of all three ex wives they were the spit of the redhead from TATU.
Darn it gonna dream of one now .

It's little wonder then that the people of Russia are renowned for having a blatant disregard for the law.

Personally, I'd just keep driving if they took my license away.

Meanwhile, in some countries women are beaten and murdered for the crime of possibly shaming their family, cannot leave the house without a male relative, can be shot for trying to get an education, are not allowed to drive, etc., but no one really shows outrage about that because it might offend Muslims.

a reply to: ketsuko

Make a thread and I will show my disgust...

It's the day after Russian Orthodox Christmas. You'll have to wait a bit for the usual suspects to jump in and defend mother russia.

Sorry for the delay...

a reply to: boymonkey74

Sounds like a run up to the Russian equivalent of the T4 program.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Not gonna give you the satisfaction....I suggest others don't as well.

Ya no crap eh?
Wrong, bigoted, and egotistical...
-ignorance has no bounds, apparently...

originally posted by: boymonkey74
Russia has listed transsexual and transgender people among those who will no longer qualify for driving licences.
Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.

www.bbc.co.uk...

www.ibtimes.com...

Nice. We got 2 western sources and not a single link to a Russian source?

originally posted by: notmyrealname

originally posted by: muchmadness

originally posted by: notmyrealname

If Russians have problems within their own borders, let the Russians deal with it!

If Americans have problems within their borders, Let Americans deal with it.

If any developed country has problems within their borders, let them deal with it and we can stop the corporate wars….

Excellent point. Next time I hear my neighbor beating his kids within the borders of his own house, I'm just going to let his family deal with it. I got too many problems of my own to care what's happening to anyone outside of my immediate presence.

Nice try with the red herring argument: Since when did local community issues which can be resolved by a decent community watch program become related to issues that can only be dealt with throughout sanctions or bombs? Do you really think you can solve all problems in the same manner?!

Yes. As I clearly stated above, I DO think you can solve all problems in the same manner. I wouldn't have said so if that wasn't what I thought.

In addition, what would you do if you heard someone disciplining their children? Would you prevent them from buying groceries to punish the parent? Would you sit off their heat in the winter to punish them and make them stop? or would you go over and threaten them with physical harm with a weapon of some sort?

Again, yes. I've already made it abundantly clear in my previous post that I would do all of those things you mention if I heard someone disciplining their children, especially the one about the groceries. I've been pretty emphatic on that point.

Who put you in charge of determining whether the punishment was too severe for the infraction?

The guy who normally determines that took the day off. He put me in charge.

Who asked you to get involved?

Nobody. When there are bruises on my neighbor's kid's face and neck following a loud argument with his abusive father, I sometimes take it upon myself to get involved. Not always, but sometimes.

Were you elected by the community?

Yes.

What qualifications do you have to be a potential judge, jury and executioner in any situation.

Well, I did watch a lot of People's Court when I was a kid. I'm pretty sure my status as an American citizen gives me the green light as a juror. The third one's a little trickier. I may need to enhance my qualifications for that.

Maybe you should just mind your own business.

Possibly. But who's to say, really, what any of us "should" do?

Thanks for all the questions. Really got me thinking.