France: Was Paris shooting a false flag

originally posted by: boymonkey74
One last point virus.
Isn't it a bit silly to compare a water melon to a human body?.

Watermelons have been used for years on TV shows to show the explosive reaction.

Hardly a good comparison. A melon rind is nowhere near as dense or as strong as the Human skull.


OP

False Flag?

Sure, I suppose anything's possible but so far you haven't presented anything worthy to consider other than a few questions that can easily be answered or explained.

a reply to: daaskapital

On examination however, i do notice a red mist appear as the officer is shot. As stated though, the footage is too poor to tell.

I looked frame by frame and didn't see any red mist else i would not had started the thread so maybe you could let me know the time for the frame so that i can try to look again please.

ISIS does not receive weapons directly from the USA.

Twice now the USA has air dropped guns/ammo to ISIS and then said it was a mistake and they also knew that many of the FSA forces were more interested in killing us then removing Assad from Syria so that they could get a home land, just like ISIS is doing anyway.

Watching the video again I don't think it hit his head I think the bullet hit his shoulder/neck on the side facing the ground so we wouldn't see gore because it is hidden.

Oh yay.
Who on ATS didn't predict this thread?

First - we don't have enough information about the situation or the person involved to come to any reasonable conclusion.

For a start - one should watch the entire video clip of the shooting, not just the 1 second showed in the video to get a bigger picture. When you watch the entire (original) clip you'll see that the policeman has been hurt, curling from the pain. It's unclear where and how he was hurt. You can also see him pleading for his life, and one cannot help but feel really, really sorry for the guy.

Secondly - do we really know what happened in the second of video showed in the opening post?
No, there isn't any blood or "body movement". That does not equate to "False".
It can mean that the terrorist scum missed his target and the policeman played dead for his own safety. Maybe he succumbed from his other wound(s).
Perhaps the blood started flowing all over the sidewalk seconds after the video was stopped?
The media reported that the policeman was shot in the head. Do they know this as fact? The policeman may have died from other wounds. Or he may not have died at all - he may be one of the critically injured people. At the time of reporting no names or details of the deceased were released. And the media isn't really known to do accurate reporting while facts are still misty.
The bottomline is: We don't know. We don't have nearly enough information about the scene to come to any type of conclusion. You'll need an entire CSI team to closely inspect the scene to get clearer answers. Not just a dude behind a computer with a YouTube account.

And really. Where is the human decency? Can't we just wait until the victims' bodies are cold before we start calling them actors?

These few seconds may be the policeman's final seconds alive. Do we really need to post it all over the Internet and then badmouth him as well? In my opinion showing a lack of empathy for this poor cop makes you no better than the terrorists, because the terrorists clearly didn't show any empathy or sympathy for him either.

a reply to: Jamie1

Islamic terrorists have been killing people all over the world on a regular basis?

But not in the Western world with the intent to attack freedom of speech.

originally posted by: SLAYER69

Watermelons have been used for years on TV shows to show the explosive reaction.

Hardly a good comparison. A melon rind is nowhere near as dense or as strong as the Human skull.

Exactly. You can make a melon explode with rubber bands. Hardly proves anything.

a reply to: SLAYER69

Hardly a good comparison. A melon rind is nowhere near as dense or as strong as the Human skull.

Yes i must agree but it was the best i could find and it does show the force of an AK47 in action.

Unless blanks were used and the guy did not get hit in the head then at that range the bullet would make a little hole on entry and blow the back of his skull out as its exited the body because these guns can kill from hundreds of yards away.

The press seems a bit slow on saying if the police officer was hit in the head or not for my liking.

originally posted by: Scaevola
a reply to: Jamie1

Islamic terrorists have been killing people all over the world on a regular basis?

But not in the Western world with the intent to attack freedom of speech.

Yes they have in Holland and in Denmark.
One because of a film and one because of a cartoon.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...(film_director)

a reply to: Gaspode

For a start - one should watch the entire video clip of the shooting, not just the 1 second showed in the video to get a bigger picture

it shows a lot more than one second and more than enough time to see if he was hit in the head at close range and i tend to trust my eyes a lot more than what the press says.

Smoke can be seen coming out of the gun and yet no recoil of the mans head or blood can be seen must make anyone ask questions like i have done.

This guy also makes a few very good points like where is all the traffic in the middle of Paris



We also need to remember that France was on high security alert after other recent attacks when this attack took place so remember that the next time they tell you that giving up more freedoms will allow them to "Protect you" or we know what is best

a reply to: boymonkey74

This happened years ago. Hardly on a regular basis.

a reply to: Scaevola

Still happened. Both attacks on freedom of speech.
Plus the offices were fire bombed a couple of years back.

originally posted by: VirusGuard
a reply to: daaskapital

On examination however, i do notice a red mist appear as the officer is shot. As stated though, the footage is too poor to tell.

I looked frame by frame and didn't see any red mist else i would not had started the thread so maybe you could let me know the time for the frame so that i can try to look again please.

Fair enough.

As i said, it's hard to tell. I do notice a slight instance where a red mist appears near where the exit wound would be, but it is as his hands come close to his head. His hands had a similar distortion around them, so it could just be poor video quality for all we know. The simple fact is that the video quality is just too poor to be basing any conclusions on.

Whatever it is, it occurs at around 18 seconds in the video, just as the shot goes off.

Twice now the USA has air dropped guns/ammo to ISIS and then said it was a mistake and they also knew that many of the FSA forces were more interested in killing us then removing Assad from Syria so that they could get a home land, just like ISIS is doing anyway.

Yes, they could be considered logistical errors though. As far as i am aware, the USA was quick to destroy the packages...As for the FSA, yes, as far as i am aware, the USA is directly supporting them...

a reply to: boymonkey74

Still happened which you said it never has.

Reading comprehension. I did not say that. I responded to this post,

Islamic terrorists have been killing people all over the world on a regular basis?

She was implying that this shooting is nothing out of the ordinairy, which is simply not true.

a reply to: VirusGuard

Did you even read past the first sentence of my first post? It doesn't look like it because I addressed the 'no blood/head movement'.

Even if you don't read any of my post, please read at least the last sentence: Please

a reply to: Scaevola

Yeah I re read and just edited.

a reply to: wlasikiewicz
what is with the wing mirrors.......they are white then the car the cops found are black.

originally posted by: VirusGuard
i tend to trust my eyes a lot more than what the press says.

And you know for a fact that this video is even in its original state? Yes. Believe a random stranger on youtube. Far more trustworthy than any newsagent.*



* Sarcasm

originally posted by: option158
a reply to: wlasikiewicz
what is with the wing mirrors.......they are white then the car the cops found are black.

Can you post the pics please the only ones I can find of the car they found don't have the angle to prove it.

Just found one.
Looks to me they are not white but chrome so it is the reflection in the video which makes them appear white.
Look at the door handles same chrome same colour.

originally posted by: option158
a reply to: wlasikiewicz
what is with the wing mirrors.......they are white then the car the cops found are black.

Good eye. I missed that, very very interesting..