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originally posted by: kaylaluv
There is a specific movement here, involving social injustice for blacks. Agree or don't agree with the basic tenets of the movement, but acknowledge that the movement exists. The movement has a slogan - Black Lives Matter.
The college president sends an email stating that she and the college are in support of this movement, but she mistakenly says "all lives matter", which is not the slogan of the movement. The students inform her why the slogan is what it is. Wanting to fully support the movement, the college president corrects herself.
If you are wanting to support the movement, at least get the slogan right.
I get why the students wanted it corrected. Let's say there has been a huge problem with sex trafficking of kids under the age of 14. Let's say there is a movement to highlight this problem and to try and stop it. Let's say the slogan of this movement is "Kids' Lives Matter". Now, let's say a person in the limelight publicly states their support of this movement, but calls the movement "All People's Lives Matter". Well, duh - sure all people's lives matter, but that is not the slogan of the movement. It is taking away from the specific target of the movement, which is kids.
I laugh at the insecurity of the White people making a big deal out of a Slogan that highlights a problem with racism against Black people...
I laugh at the pathetic attempts to justify hijacking the Slogan of another persons movement because they neither have the intellect or ingenuity to think of their own...
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originally posted by: Jamie1
Maybe that's what this is really all about. Making sure the black voters come out in full force in 2016.
"I am committed to working as a white ally"
Ethnicity of Students from U.S.
0.2% American Indian/Alaskan Native
14.4% Asian
5.5% Black/African-American
11.0% Hispanic/Latino
5.5% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)
0.0% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander
52.9% White
10.5% Unknown
International Students 13.2%
Smith College
no one has a problem with that slogan
the problem here is that a person has to say sorry
The phrase "all lives matter" is probably hundreds of years old, no one hijacked it.
I've read plenty of posts on this board that refutes this, whatever.
It couldn't possibly be that they understood the mistake & genuinely wanted to apologise.
What an extremely convenient time to pull that one out of the bag, eh!
but those people would also disagree with the statement that all life matters, wouldn't they?
You're twisting the issue into what you want it to be about.
I'm sure that was the case, but only after a lot of pressure from students and faculty.
How so?
cry babies
No, because generally their whole reasoning for having a problem with the Slogan is because "All Lives Matter"...
Comprende?
Apparently, All Lives Matter is probably hundreds of years old..
You' & others have probably written it before...
Black Lives Matter becomes a Slogan for a good cause...
All of a sudden "All Lives Matter" hits the headlines within weeks of the initial cause...
All Lives Matter didn't spring up to fight alongside Black Lives Matter...
It was a counter move plain & simple.
& If that's not convenient timing to you, we shall leave it there.
We are not suggesting that black lives don't matter
we are simply saying that "all lives matter" is a better slogan
I couldn't care less about how much melanin is in their skin.
The whole reason all these racial divides exist in the first place is because people like you put so much energy into these issues.
WHO GIVES A GOD DAMN # ABOUT A SLOGAN.
originally posted by: My_Reality
a reply to: Jamie1
Yes. I read about this a day or two ago when the black brunch thread came up. Why doesn't a authority figure in the discipline of higher learning have a backbone? Why did this person cave to the first sign of disagreement? I cannot understand why people do this. The author of the original e-mail was in the right originally. All lives do matter. I find this caving to popular racial pressure to be racist itself.
Here we have an individual doing the right thing here. This person is letting every student on her campus know that people of any color are victims of police violence. Yet because she feels the protected bigots will label her a racist if she stands her ground she folds instead. I would not have made the same choice. I would have defied the racist antagonists. I would have continued to say "All lives matter". Why? It is the truth...all lives matter. The juvenile antics exhibited by these fools makes me regard them in contempt.
How can I support these types of people when they obviously have no support towards me?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Yes. If people started a movement to protect their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, and other people countered that ALL the amendments are important, it's like duh, of course they are, but THIS protest is focused on the 2nd amendment.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
WHO GIVES A GOD DAMN # ABOUT A SLOGAN.
Clearly you do, or you wouldn't suggest "a better" one!
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
WHO GIVES A GOD DAMN # ABOUT A SLOGAN.
Clearly you do, or you wouldn't suggest "a better" one!
Just because I like one slogan more than another doesn't mean I care about which slogan people use. My whole point here is that people shouldn't be getting their panties in such a bunch over which slogan the College President decided to use. Both slogans are perfectly adequate for the job of what she was trying to express. My issue is when all the idiots come in and cry about her choice of words, even though her choice of words were perfectly fine. There is no secret slogan war, both slogans have the same meaning, one is just more specific than the other. Apparently this all boils down to the stupid fact that she wasn't specific enough. Oh the lack of specificity.