Prince Andrew named in Pedophile case....Royal Family becoming EXPOSED!!!

a reply to: Mehmet666Heineken

Hey matey, i respect your view completely; however, lets just assume that this figure above is correct.. So, queenie brings us in about 200 million a year.

200 million is under 0.02% of the UK GDP which was about £1.54 trillion in 2012.
0.02% Thats her contribution!

Now here are just a few simple examples of what she is worth and why she should be giving a lot more!

Queenie is the largest landowner in the world, her 384,000 acre landholding of mostly prime land is estimated to be worth 10 billion quid. Many of these properties/land remain unused for most of the year and are also closed to the public (No tourism value). So why not carve up the estates and put some of properties/land up to better economic use. I don't know how much would be raised through the sale of even half of the estates she owns but I can tell you it would be a lot lot more than 200 million.

Then we have inheritance tax, obviously all of this property/land and wealth is inherited... Do they pay it? No! Do we have to pay it? Yes!

So, queenies net worth at the moment is around £13 billion, inheritance tax is 40%... That alone is £5 billion. Thats 5 billion queenie has chosen not to pay into the public purse.

5 Billion!!!! How many homeless/starving/dying children could have been helped with that... Kinda of makes that 200 million per annum kind of fade into insignificance really.

We are fed this illusion that queenie is this broke, charitable person who is doing her bit to pull her weight for the UK but to be honest matey, it couldnt be further from the truth. The wealth and power she holds is phenomenal and if she genuinly cared about her subjects she would use some of this wealth to help give those suffering better lives instead of just using it to enjoy a life of privilege far beyond what any of us could even imagine.

Edit to add...

Did you know: There is an exemption from levying duty on alcoholic beverages sold in the bars at royal households!

Even more tax dodging from queenie!

And........ They're all lizzards!!!!!

Just kiddin, lol

Seriously though, here is another interesting article regarding allegations of abuse taking place at Buckingham palace and Balmoral. I know its the Mirror but as far as i can see the quotes are taken from a seperate article/interview that appeared in the Sunday People.

Basically it gives an account of a child who claims he was subject to abuse at these two locations whilst working as a member of staff... It then goes onto alledge that this was related to the info contained in the now famous missing dossier!

Also, quick FYI.. The MP Tom Watson mentioned in the article (the fella who first brought all this establishment abuse out in the open) is my local MP... Ive exchanged a few emails with him... Hes pretty awesome and def one of the good guys in my book, lol.

Anyway....Link

a reply to: liteonit6969

Im going to go out on in a limb and say Clinton andnAndrews and every powerful man that went out to Epsteins little getaway was using these young girls. They were kept there. I dontbconsiser sex with a 16/17 year old pedophilia because these are women, but that doesnt make it right. Theybwere still used and taken advantage of by these men.

What gets me and is a bit strange to me is the people that really hate pedo's, and I mean REALLY HATE PEDO's and think they deserve eternal torture, even the worst of the worst prisons are too good for them, eternal torture is too good for them, and say things like the death penalty would be too easy on them, they should be castrated and other such inhumane tortures etc. . . . .

However when its thier, "Precious English Prince" they got nothing to say, and come up with countless excuses for him. . . .

It just boggels my mind, you know there are a bunch of dudes in prison for this very same crime, wether there is proof of it or not, just being accused is enough to send people to jail but not for the, "Precious English Prince".

If he gets off let those other dudes off too, or lock him up just like they would anyone else.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Well bugger me with a fish fork! I was thinking exactly the same and if this board is indicative as to how society are thinking as a whole regarding this, were in big trouble.

Just to be clear, i'm dead set against jailing anyone without evidence and a fair trial, and i really don't think we should be letting other dudes off just because someone else 'gets off' with it; however I would challenge anyone who has blindly defended him to act the same if it were a teacher at their child's school who was accused of the same thing.

I say blindly defend because as far as i can see there is evidence in this case that supports the girls allegations. I accept that its not the strongest evidence as it mainly consists of circumstantial and/or heresay however it is enough to warrant further investigation.

If im honest, some of the attitudes towards women, trafficking, prostitution and consent that i have seen whilst discussing this have really saddened me.

Well look at this photo at the link...I dont expect Andrew would want to
make a sworn statement concerning such.

www.news.com.au...

More at the link here too, lots of details about the real facts.
abovethelaw.com...

This story has a lot of details that the mainstream media seems to want to
whitewash over...too many powerful men....a Prince, a President, and a lot
of underage girls...even on flight manifests. Ooopps....

Im not sure how we missed this!
Epstein Flight manifests leaked
Gawker gains access to them. Also story on Daily Mail

Turns out, Dershowitz lied! He did travel on Epstein's plane without his wife and daughter.

Before, he claimed his wife travelled with him everywhere. Suddenly he's 180'd,

"On occasion, she's working or travels separately. I travel with her almost all the time, not all the time."

a reply to: burntheships

I try not to get emotional about these subjects. The only emotion I show on ATS is usually anger....

If that was my daughter with Prince Andrew, in that photo, innocent or not... I would bounce his head against the floor until blood spilled out.

originally posted by: HumanPLC

Queenie is the largest landowner in the world.

Nope.

Not even close, but your German queen is a piece of work - I'll drink to that!

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Mehmet666Heineken
Forgive my turn of phrase but: Why on Earth would you swear an oath to a woman you had never met?

Also - why on Earth would you feel you are binded by something you have said to someone you have never met!

And - an oath... in this day and age... to the Queen? I think whoever is promoting the Royal family in Canada is doing a great job!

Sorry to come across like a t**t but you've just blown my mind!

You don't come across like a t"t but if you will give me a moment.

During WW2 the young Elizabeth Windsor worked hard as a role model to women of England. At a young age she was thrust into the public eye and became queen.

In more years than I have been alive, she has acted with more dignity than anyone I have seen.

To our military (and royalists like me) she is the figurehead of the English, and whilst politicians may make the decisions, as long as the Monarch is there, the armed forces will not be a political party ally.

The Queen, HM Queen Elizabeth II, has sacrificed her life for the service of The United Kingdom and the commonwealth, may god bless her.

For all she has done for the UK, England, and for her position as Queen, I swear support to her, just as the forces do, she is our Commander in Cheif and has 80 years experience.

originally posted by: Forensick
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In more years than I have been alive, she has acted with more dignity than anyone I have seen.
...

Problem is, what we have seen is only through media, which is biased to show her in good light and promote her.

Why are we not forced to swear an oath to our close friends and family, that would stop divorce and people treating real people like crap. Just seems like there is an agenda in all this "You must love the Queen" business.

a reply to: and14263

You are wrong, no one is forcing you to love the Queen.

This is why I find it absurd that people hate her/the royal family.

They are totally passive, if you have a problem with them, it's your problem caused by your Broken Brain.

If I am wrong, am happy to debate if.

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: Forensick
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In more years than I have been alive, she has acted with more dignity than anyone I have seen.
...

Problem is, what we have seen is only through media, which is biased to show her in good light and promote her[/quote

So if you haven't seen anything to promote HM in a bad light, why do you dislike her?

Are you listening to rumor, here say and unfounded accusations to build up a picture of HM to fit your hatred?

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: Forensick
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In more years than I have been alive, she has acted with more dignity than anyone I have seen.
...

Problem is, what we have seen is only through media, which is biased to show her in good light and promote her[/quote

So if you haven't seen anything to promote HM in a bad light, why do you dislike her?

Are you listening to rumor, here say and unfounded accusations to build up a picture of HM to fit your hatred?

originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: and14263

You are wrong, no one is forcing you to love the Queen.

This is why I find it absurd that people hate her/the royal family.

They are totally passive, if you have a problem with them, it's your problem caused by your Broken Brain.

If I am wrong, am happy to debate if.

Okay, I respect your opinion. I disagree with the idea that people who do not support the Queen have a broken brain but I cannot say my brain is not broken.

The hate comes from underprivileged/poor societies jealousy. Not too absurd to understand.

People are different, you like the Royals, I don't. I'm not sure that's a topic for debate. But as I said, I completely respect your opinion to support the Royals and I certainly don't think you have broken brain.

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: Forensick


Problem is, what we have seen is only through media, which is biased to show her in good light and promote her

So if you haven't seen anything to promote HM in a bad light, why do you dislike her?

Are you listening to rumor, here say and unfounded accusations to build up a picture of HM to fit your hatred?

originally posted by: and14263

Why are we not forced to swear an oath to our close friends and family, that would stop divorce and people treating real people like crap.

Henry VIII made a couple oaths, but we know how that turned out...

King Henry the Eighth,
to six wives he was wedded.
One died, one survived,
two divorced, two beheaded.

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: and14263

Why are we not forced to swear an oath to our close friends and family, that would stop divorce and people treating real people like crap.

Henry VIII made a couple oaths, but we know how that turned out...

King Henry the Eighth,
to six wives he was wedded.
One died, one survived,
two divorced, two beheaded.

Yeah, oathes mean diddley squat really.

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: and14263

You are wrong, no one is forcing you to love the Queen.

This is why I find it absurd that people hate her/the royal family.

They are totally passive, if you have a problem with them, it's your problem caused by your Broken Brain.

If I am wrong, am happy to debate if.

The hate comes from underprivileged/poor societies jealousy. Not too absurd to understand.

This is my point, HM Queen Elizabeth gave her life to the UK.

Do you think that everything you do, every minute of every day that is scrutinized by the world, is more of a prison than a playground?

Every trip they go on is in full public eye with everyone commenting.

Privelidged??? It's a nightmare, can't watch porn, can't smoke, can't drink, can't play BF4...can't hang out, can't have a local...

They are selfless people, sorry they were born into it, but very few are leaches, I'm not rich but I would not trade my anonymous life for theirs.

And, they all support charities.

How can you hate them?

a reply to: Forensick
I don't hate them mate, as I said earlier I'm not going to get dragged into another blck vs white debate when neither of us will change our minds and both of us know where each other is coming from.

I will say though... congruency is a trait that I look up to in people, I myself try and stay congruent.

I wont get caught up in the Anti-American and Gun Control issues and especially not 9/11 or Sandy Hook conspiracies, on the other hand, I do not judge anyones opinion.

Your intro

They are totally passive, if you have a problem with them, it's your problem caused by your Broken Brain.

My broken brained opinion.


Enjoy your time on ATS. If you really want a for/against Royals debate there is a thread on here somewhere.