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originally posted by: justwanttofly
A lot of people are enthralled with the refueling of test aircraft or with unmanned air refueling, but not a lot of people know the mighty KC-135 does Special Operations Air Refueling (SOAR) at low level. I've been researching it a little bit lately and thought I'd share.
SOAR is done with the eight KC-135R(RT)s that are modified to be receiver capable. They also are the only KC-135s with Navigators, so that should tell you something about the mission. The aircraft belong to the 22nd Operations Group of the 22nd Air Refueling Wing at McConnell Air Force Base.
I found a mention of a KC-135 SOAR cockpit upgrade here. Maybe it's for the Nav to assist with the low level stuff.
This is a really interesting paper written by a dual qualified KC-135 pilot and nav at Air Command and Staff College in 1988 about the feasibility and possible future use of low level refueling in the KC-135 in actual operations. It finds that refueling between 1-3,000 feet in the airplane would be affective with regards to threat penetration and avoiding detection. It also says that anything below 1,000 feet is pretty much not necessary for doing AR.
Most of this SOAR stuff is classified, but there are some mentions of it by the Air Force around the web. This article talks about an exercise that SOAR crews participated in. A page about the 509th Weapons Squadron talks about how KC-135 Weapons School students get checked out on SOAR during the six-month course.
Gunship on the boom.
The purpose of all this is to offload gas to special operations MC/AC-130s in higher threat environments where flying higher means an increased risk of getting shot down, but the receivers still need their gas closer to the threats in order to get to their targets.
Anyway, I thought it was cool and that you all would like it too.
originally posted by: Sammamishman
a reply to: boomer135
Fascinating stuff boomer, thanks.
When you mention "other" aircraft besides the -130's can you give us a little more insight on what they may be?
originally posted by: boomer135
originally posted by: Sammamishman
a reply to: boomer135
Fascinating stuff boomer, thanks.
When you mention "other" aircraft besides the -130's can you give us a little more insight on what they may be?
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originally posted by: gariac
I saw the B-2 refueled at a very low level (as in I could see the refueling with just my eyes) on the NTTR. They used a KC-10. The refueling was not on an established track. They did the turn around near the Cedar Pipeline Ranch.
If you are using a TACAN, I don't see how stealthy this refueling could be. I'm assuming all this is for special ops. Based on Red Flag, which should be real world, the tankers are always out of theater.
EMCON Four - Emission out no [sic] emitters will be used
unless specifically authorized by the plan supported.
This includes radios, doppler, radio navigation
transmitters [VOR,TACAN], radar, radio altimeters, IFF,
exterior lights, etc. This option will not be practiced
during peacetime operations unless specifically tasked by
(Numbered Air Force] or (Higher Headquarters] due to
(Federal Aviation Administration] identification
requirement
originally posted by: boomer135
a reply to: gariac
Outside of red flag, there usually isnt any certain tracks we use in the area. If its a support mission for edwards or groom and we are in the NTS, usually dreamland will just vector us around depending on where the test aircraft are at. And to keep us out of the box.
originally posted by: gariac
originally posted by: boomer135
a reply to: gariac
Outside of red flag, there usually isnt any certain tracks we use in the area. If its a support mission for edwards or groom and we are in the NTS, usually dreamland will just vector us around depending on where the test aircraft are at. And to keep us out of the box.
Dreamland or Nellis control? NTTR or NTS?
Dreamland, which is the tower at Desert Rock, tends to handle non-military aircraft that enter the range. It is useful to monitor since interesting civilian aircraft enter the NTTR via the NTS. The WB57 (callsign Sunshine 1 at the time) used Dreamland (Mercury radio) 126.15MHz.
Military aircraft tend to contact Blackjack. Blackjack added a VHF frequency, but it is one of those 139MHZ frequencies that is just above where civilian aircract radios work. So either they get a handoff to Dreamland/Mercury, which in turn can probably phone Groom tower, or Nellis control takes over.
Dreamland Approach/Control/Mercury radio 118.7MHZ 126.15MHz 261.1MHz 255.8MHz
Blackjack 139.9MHz 377.8MHz
I listed all the known Dreamland frequencies, but 126.15MHz is the one normally heard. They handle traffic from the Lockheed Martin facility at Yucca Lake since it lacks a tower.
Nellis frequencies
The General Atomics frequencies turned out to be useful since they are illegally used at the NTTR.
originally posted by: SpeedFanatic
a reply to: boomer135
"blackjack" isn't controller at Edwards, it's for all Nellis Range, I guess. Edwards has "Joshua"
Here is a full list.