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Im sure many of you here an ATS, are already familiar with the Illuminati card games that came out back in the 90's. They were made by Steven Jackson Games ( SJG) and are shockingly revealing as to how every single thing has been set into motion by the elites. And the finals chips are being maneuvered by them as we speak.
The bible has predicted all of this would come to pass, and that there would be the emergence of a New World Order out of Chaos and the impending ushering in of the Anti-Christ.

Please watch these two links and let me know whether you agree or not, that the illuminati are very real and have pre planned all of this chaos we now see in our world



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rense.com...

a reply to: freedom7

By "preplanned", do you mean they just read the Bible and are doing their best to imitate it? Or are you saying "they" wrote the Bible, and are now making good on their "plans"?

I don't know about you and your strength of history, but as much as people or groups of people try and run/control the world, it just seems more and more likely that we are all on a runaway train on a dark and stormy night, and no one is actually at the controls. Call it chaos theory if you will. I don't doubt people try and manipulate things, but they clearly cannot accurately predict the actions and reactions of those not involved in their " plans".

a reply to: freedom7

people ask :

why dont the general pubic stake conspiracy theories seriously ?

here is part of the answer - the fantasy that a card game means something

a reply to: freedom7

My problem with saying this was predicted by the bible (or notstradamus, or a tarot reader in New Orleans, etc) is this: did we know what was going to happen before hand? And I mean specifically know things, not just "well the bible said bad stuff was gonna happen, this is bad, bible was right!" Or are we fitting events to the bible (or whatever else) after they've already happened?

This NWO stuff trips me out. I do like to see the connections people make and so on. But once we start talking about predictions, I need some really clear, solid, convincing evidence before I'll bite.

I think there's some truth to these shadow groups behind the scenes, but I also think there's a large degree of crap that people fill in the blank spots with.

a reply to: Sparkymedic

Hey Sparkymedic, thanks for the questions.

by preplanned, I don't mean they read the bible and are doing their best to intimate it. Although I wouldn't put it past some of the very luciferian types to know the bible better than most Christians and run mock experiments to try and confuse the masses and thwart and twist the word of God.
I also don't believe the illuminati wrote the bible and are now making good on their plans.

I truly believe the bible to be the inspired word of God and the truth for humanity. I believe the elites who have sold out to Satan truly believe they will rule with the devil. The actually believe the devil is the good guy and the God of the bible YHWH, Yashua to be the bad guy.
Then there are those who aren't as higher up, and are under a huge delusion and believe the illuminati/ Satan don't exist at all etc...

It all boils down to prophecy. God has foreknowledge of what we will do before we even do it, he knows how this story is going to play out. Prophets like Isiah who predicted everything about Jesus Christ to the core ( all the prophecies he fulfilled) and the prophet John who was exiled to Patmos island where he wrote the book of Revelation all were being inspired by the holy spirit to write down what they were seeing/experiencing.

I used to believe in chaos theory to man, the world can feel so random at times, but it's all spiritual man. God's been showing me that everything that is written has, is and will come to pass. And I agree with you on this statement

but they clearly cannot accurately predict the actions and reactions of those not involved in their " plans".

There is the component of unpredictability on how we will react, and that is exactly why they are panicking. Because God is waking so many up and thwarting their plans, he's only giving them this leash while we in the age of grace

their knowledge is limited

a reply to: ignorant_ape


Ignorant Ape did u even watch that link?




If we want to tell me card showing the trade centers going down and an explosion occurring within the pentagon is not them tipping their hand that they had this all pre-planned then there's not much more I can say to explain any of this to you.

You can't truly believe that's a coincidence?

a reply to: Shamrock6

Hey Shamrock,


I totally hear you man, it's trippy stuff. When I first dove into bible prophecy , and paralleled it with world events I didn't really buy it all. My relationship with God was so rocky bordering on non existent, and I was resisting the bits of truth that I started uncovering because it was easier to deny it, and pretend the world is a great place and no terrifying events were going to unfold.

I was wrong though...

And I've begun to see there is an all out information war because the elites want to keep us away from the truths in the bible. You are erring with caution which is a good thing, because it's true a lot of Nostradamus, tarot card readings, new age movements/ religions are completely based in deception. most of it is designed to play on your emotions and give you half truths so some form of trust can be established within the truth seeker ( us)


Once that half truth is implemented, it is mixed with just enough lies to make you feel enlightened to certain truths, but the problem is it's only providing leftovers from the table and not the real feast. It's not liberating like Jesus Christ's word and spirit alone can be.

I promise you I have no agenda in saying that. If anything being a Christian in todays day and age is tough, and we are looked at as bigots, judgemental , unintelligible individuals who haven't evolved or become enlightened

We're merging into that time where the lie will be paraded around as truth, and truth paraded around as a lie. The bad ones will masquerade around as the heroes, while the renewed ones with God's spirit and truth will be scapegoated as the lunatics and the bad guys.

BUT...

There is a peace and a freedom in encountering the truths in the word of God, and walking with Christ in truth.

It's a peace he described would surpass all understanding.

You strike me as an intellectual mind, who takes everything with a grain of salt- This is a good thing.

God says when you seek him with all your heart you will find him, and we will need to be very cautious and discerning when it comes to lies v.s the truth because the bible has described the devil as the father of all lies.

There is an all out effort to silence those who get to close to the truth, but God will keep revealing things to us and draw us closer to him.

I will be writing about biblical prophecy and how it's unfolding before our very eyes.. in these next few hours.

God bless man, and keep seeking

Multitudes would travel to and fro Prior to the Industrial Revolution, few individuals traveled beyond their own communities. Until recently, horse, foot, and boat were the only modes of transportation. Yet today we travel by car, bus, plane, train, subway, etc. Millions and millions are running to and fro just as Daniel prophesied 2500 years ago!


But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:4

This was a passage from the book of Daniel, where an angel said this to the prophet. Now what are the odds that an angel would be able to see that "many shall run to and fro ( planes, trains, automobiles) and the knowledge shall be increased ( iphones, youtube, radio, satellite tv etc..) thousands of years before any of this was even close to coming to pass. In a time with horses, chariots, swords, and kings and queens?

It's just enough to allow a seeker to read between the lines and in faith see what the angel is articulating here, but also just enough for you to misread into it and interpret it as something else. The answer in uncovering the truth lies not in the intellect/ mind.. but in the heart. Seek with your heart and God shows truth.

29. - The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8). On May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation.


.Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day?
Or shall a nation be born at once?
For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children


Just as the bible predicted... The Prophecies were written and many have unfolded, many are currently unfolding and many more to come..




.

a reply to: freedom7

Right...well, I guess you have to believe to see in this case then?

I'm not religious in anyway shape or form. I prefer critical thinking. In other words, I prefer to have empirical evidence to guide my beliefs.

Not to be rude or anything, but by believeing to see, do you think that one would open themselves up to the real possibility of being manipulated for the sake of submitting to something or someone that isn't actually what you think it is/ they are?

Again, I have a hard time buying into scripture to begin with, mainly due to the flawed logic, hypocritical rhetoric (literally from one page to the next) and incredibly one dimensional characters. Not that it's overall message is lost or bad. But believing it's all tied into a card game which likely has the same formula to persuade the believer's into thinking that the universe is all following a script, seems to be a bit much.

That said, I don't believe in coincidences. In my eyes, the universe is stitched together meticulously with chaos and randomness. In a universe where everything is probable, anything is possible. The simplicity of complexity, if you will.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: freedom7

people ask :

why dont the general pubic stake conspiracy theories seriously ?

here is part of the answer - the fantasy that a card game means something

They do have a strange way of revealing their plans, though; and they give enough bull dinky to keep people wondering. Who listened to the conspiracy theories, when 911 happened? 3 building fell and yet, people still believe the government's version???

a reply to: freedom7

Sit back and enjoy the show.

If you get REALLY brave, jump on the stage once in awhile for a slightly more personal experience.

a reply to: freedom7

I believe the elites who have sold out to Satan truly believe they will rule with the devil. The actually believe the devil is the good guy and the God of the bible YHWH, Yashua to be the bad guy.

Well thats new!!!
So really what your saying is that the Elites of the world arent evil just misguided?

God doesnt personally make much of an appearance in the NT its just people saying hes a great bloke but when we look at the OT when hes always around and sending his messengers all over the place hes basically a really sadistic, twisted, insecure, homicidal, genocidal, meglomanical bastard who wants humans to stay ignorant, and to top it all off the servants he sent down to look after us end up raping our women!!!!!
The devil on the on the other hand, according to the bible, wants us to have knowledge of good and evil.

For once Im on the side of the elites.

So as someone who has obviously read the bible how is it you figure that God is the good bloke and the devil is the bad guy???
I would have to say that the evil ones are usually the ones who invest in and produce the best propaganda and from what I can tell the bible has to be the best work of propaganda ever produced.
I mean it flat out says the guys an asshole yet all you religious types somehow believe the total opposite!!!!!

Make this make sense to me please

Eph. 6:12:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

When I read topics like this one, I always think of the above scripture. If there is an unseen dark realm guiding TPTB, then it stands to reason that there must also be an unseen light realm guiding those whose hearts and minds are righteous.

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
a reply to: freedom7

I believe the elites who have sold out to Satan truly believe they will rule with the devil. The actually believe the devil is the good guy and the God of the bible YHWH, Yashua to be the bad guy.

Well thats new!!!
So really what your saying is that the Elites of the world arent evil just misguided?

God doesnt personally make much of an appearance in the NT its just people saying hes a great bloke but when we look at the OT when hes always around and sending his messengers all over the place hes basically a really sadistic, twisted, insecure, homicidal, genocidal, meglomanical bastard who wants humans to stay ignorant, and to top it all off the servants he sent down to look after us end up raping our women!!!!!
The devil on the on the other hand, according to the bible, wants us to have knowledge of good and evil.

For once Im on the side of the elites.

So as someone who has obviously read the bible how is it you figure that God is the good bloke and the devil is the bad guy???
I would have to say that the evil ones are usually the ones who invest in and produce the best propaganda and from what I can tell the bible has to be the best work of propaganda ever produced.
I mean it flat out says the guys an asshole yet all you religious types somehow believe the total opposite!!!!!

Make this make sense to me please

What messengers are you talking about? What servants did he send down to look after us that ended up raping our women??? I don't think you know or understand what you've read. Matter of fact, read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, then get back to me. I can't recall any of God's servants doing anything that you've described. The one story that i can recall is David and Bathsheba. He wanted her so bad, David sent her husband to the front lines of war. I also don't think you understand God's ways. Although David did what he did, David never stopped loving God and God never stopped loving David. At the end of the day, God understands we're flesh and blood; human!

BTW: you do realize that the "ites", like Canaanites, for example, were the enemies of God, right? Do you understand that God has been trying to set people free from their own enemies, both physical and spiritual ones??? Trying to set them free from being slaves to someone else???

Kind of like today's world. Are we really free (like we say with song) or do we need to be set free????

God hasn't given up on us. We've given up on Him!

I rode a red crocodile across the Atlantic Ocean in less than two weeks. They didn't make cheap novelty items about it. I'm jealous.

originally posted by: freedom7
Im sure many of you here an ATS, are already familiar with the Illuminati card games that came out back in the 90's. They were made by Steven Jackson Games ( SJG) and are shockingly revealing as to how every single thing has been set into motion by the elites. And the finals chips are being maneuvered by them as we speak.
The bible has predicted all of this would come to pass, and that there would be the emergence of a New World Order out of Chaos and the impending ushering in of the Anti-Christ.

Please watch these two links and let me know whether you agree or not, that the illuminati are very real and have pre planned all of this chaos we now see in our world



www.youtube.com...

rense.com...

a reply to: Asynchrony

I rode a red crocodile across the Atlantic Ocean in less than two weeks.

I once took a trip across the Pacific Ocean in a homemade one-man submarine.

I would tell you how long it took to complete this "task", however, we lost track of time almost immediately after submersion.

They didn't make cheap novelty items about it. I'm jealous.

No novelty items here, I only received an edifice with my name on the side.

ヽ(｀⌒´)ノ

a reply to: queenofswords

Couldn't have said it better myself. Ephesians 6 sums a lot up in terms of what is going on in the world today. The spiritual realm is very real. Good v.s evil, integrating and influencing humanity on endless amounts of levels.

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

This is where you need to dig deep for the truth with a pure heart and open mind, and stop taking bits and pieces of the bible out of context. I encourage you to read through all of the scriptures and begin to truly research the history behind all of this. The bible has been proven to be historically accurate in many ways. They have found the rock that Moses hit in which water poured out and left a gaping hole down the middle. They found the Egyptian chariot wheels in the red sea, they have proven there are fish fossils at the very top of some of the world's largest mountains, indicating a global flood truly did happen. I could go on forever here....
Do not be deceived. The devil very much so wants you to believe that he is a well meaning , loving being that simply wanted to enlighten humanity with the knowledge of good and evil. In truth, what he was doing was tempting us into abandoning our natural estate as created beings walking in complete, peace, harmony and love with our creator. And rather tempt us to become super beings, and Gods ourselves who simply would not need a personal connection founded in love with the creator.
You describe stories of God seemingly being a tyrant and unleashing horrors on the population. What youre failing to take into context here, is all the nations that were ever commanded to be wiped out were ISIS x 10. These were barbarians who would sacrifice THEIR OWN CHILDREN to demonic Gods. These were enemies of God that solemnly vowed to be at war with Israel, and refused to repent.
Like one poster posted here, read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah if you don't believe what I am saying is true. There were angels that went in there to scout the place out, and long story short the inhabitants there were so wicked, that they were raping everyone, and furiously pounding on the doors trying to seek out these angels and Lot.


You cannot have a loving God without a just God, and god will exact justice ultimately but not before Mercy is shown.

As one who reads the bible the way I figure God is the good guy and Satan is the bad guy is because since the beginning Satan has done nothing but tempt, lie, cheat, steal, murder, corrupt and destroy.. a trend we still see to this day.
We study the life of Jesus Christ, he was fully God, fully man. He lived a sinless life, had power to be king of the world, to reign etc... yet he chose unconditional love, grace, mercy and showered it upon our world in dire need of it, and his spirit does to this day. I personally walk with the spirit, and have a relationship with Christ and I'm telling you he is very real and he is the ONLY one who will continuously fight for you, sanctify you, free you etc..

He chose to endure the most humiliating, shameful death, humbling himself all the way to death to the cross, because of LOVE. No other ever has nor ever will be able to do the same. That is WHY God is the good guy

a reply to: McChillin


well Said Mcchillin