Satanists in the Music Industry

Is any non Christian music considered Satanic?

I can honestly say that it was my first SoaD album (Toxicity) that fundamentally changed the way I viewed the world. At the same time, I discovered Black Sabbath (there is no BS without Ozzy, for the record). From there my love of music bloomed and was no longer strictly Christian bands like DC Talk or Rich Mullens. I am no Satanist (I am atheist) but before I heard other genres of music I had no idea there were other ways of thinking about the world.

I just love music in general. I will listen to any music if it moves me.

originally posted by: theMediator
Satanic and occultism references in the music industry as been around for a long time now. I think it began with Alister Crowley and the Beatles.

You see, some people REALLY believe in entities which bring forth, luck, power, money, fame...you name it. They believe in symbolism and they believe that showing it off will somehow grant them more power or more power to the entity that they believe in, team with, draw, share power.

YOU might not believe it, but some do. References to "chosen ones", satanism, an occultism driven music industry is common subject for lyrics in about any type of music.

Oh and the triangles...damn, do they love triangles.

But is not "chosen ones" a biblical reference?

Original Word: ἐκλεκτός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: eklektos
Phonetic Spelling: (ek-lek-tos')
Short Definition: chosen, elect, choice, select

Also sometimes called sealed.

And it all depends on what the triangle represent? Is it single man/woman struggle to reach god as in the pyramid up and down (god struggle to reach man) or the corrupt power pyramid where you are enslaved by others? The whole economic system in the west is a corrupt power pyramid that feed the top form the bottom.

Hahaha nice thread
Obviously the black satans are fun making posers.
Immortal can fall into this category too.

As for those pop ''artists'' in the op, they are not satanic at all just NWO provokers illuminati sh!t.
Christians should try to distinguish their ''enemies'' and stop calling them all satanists

Since others posted some nice music, here are my suggestions

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I think Satan is in that dude whoever he is.
Talking about many nasty things to do lol.

Since every one is chiming in with great music, I hope it's ok if I toss a few pennies into the pot on this one....In high school I was labeled "satanic illuminati" by a lot of the meaner "christians" (please note I'm Christian myself, so it was terribly hard to be labeled counter to my nature) just because I didn't listen to the "accepted" musical selections. New Kids on the Block just really wasn't my thing. Don't get me started on that one though.

Psalm 69 had just hit the airwaves and everyone in that small town who didn't know a darn thing about me assumed I was in league with the "dark side of the occult" just because I liked the intensity of the band. Admittedly, some of the tracks on that album got pretty dark even for my personal tastes but when it's all said and done it remains little more than a passion play.

Artists venting their frustrations and desires.

Besides, anyone who knows Al is pretty much aware he's deeply opposed to the majority of practices he sings about in his cynical fashion. Don't shoot the messengers...a lot of the whole performance is how the listener internalizes the music.

Some see nothing more than art, others see nothing more than agendas.
Free will still remains.



If you're familiar with that band and their catalog, you have to admit those guys are hell of a lot more occult than Rhianna and the "new crew" of flash and glitz....no offense intended to those performers and their entourage and followings, but like I said before - "satan" has been watered down and "illuminati" have gotten a bad rap. No pun intended there, but golly gee darn it....it fits so well for some reason. Go figure.

I guess because of all those attacks I went through back then I still get rather touchy when I see people using the satanist card so loosely. I've seen real manifestations (not by choice) of the dark practices and it's not as pretty as these pop culture examples. I won't get into details of those experiences.

I know that sounds weird and possibly hypocritical from my end but it's difficult to explain the difference between artistic expressions and the reality of the darkest sides of the occult when so many people have watered down the terminologies associated with such things. I'd rather have the kiddos chasing after chicks wiggling their butts, flashy cars, money and other benign hedonistic examples than getting into the hardcore demonic aspects.

"Satanic Illuminati" these days are little more than pop culture terminologies that sell albums....as it should be.

Once again, no offense intended - just offering another perspective.
I'll shut up now.
Blah.

Satanism is nothing more than a primal example of the human nature wanting to be opposite against the general accepted social behavior in the tribe. Satan itself is fine example of this idea, for he rejects the common ideology and dictatorial way of Yahweh. If all those millions of Angels agreed with Satan on this topic and joined him resulting in the fabrication of fallen Angels, than there must have definitely been something wrong with the political way of ruling as Yahweh did. I see this more as a metaphor, not as a serious thing that actually happened.

I love how these threads always mention the same major pop stars and yet I've never seen a thread made about actual Satanists in the music industry like Jon Nodveidt.

Watched this youtube video yesterday that fits very well into this thread. It's not so much about the Music industry, but more about Hollywood Babylon: The Movie industry and Hollywood go hand in hand with the illuminati as well... The video is ten minutes long, but quite interesting:

Wait, their is satanic imagery in music??????





Gaahl (Gorgoroth) would approve of this post



The angry pandas with their crab shuffling and Abbath twerking (around 2:28 if you want to lol) would approve..I mean Immortal would approve.



The legendary Emperor and their black wizards would approve.. (just picked up Eremita by Ihsahn on gray marble vinyl, sounds great!)



of course any post about Satan in music is not complete without Mayhem

Pushing the envelop sells. Same as it ever was. If you don't have any talent, you make satanish songs that get attention. Your kids already are in their rebel stage and will eat it up. Face it, wholesome # doesn't sell.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Eminem has always loved making satanic references, especially in his newer stuff.

Honestly though, I'm not convinced he's actually worships the devil. He's just an absolute legend and has made a career out of getting under peoples skin, by saying the most offensive things that he can think of, lol.

Really though, so what if they are satanist anyway? It's no dumber or smarter than being a christian as far as I'm concerned. I really don't understand why people would be so offended if these people decide to worship some mythical entities. Each to there own though.

Exactly, who cares if they are Satanists?

I think that it's of concern mainly for Judeo-Christians and Muslims, as they have been taught for their whole lives to be afraid of Satan or what have you.

I don't really believe that most people, even Satanists, are truly trying to control the world. The occult or mystics, maybe, or an enlightened group.

originally posted by: Velom
Satanism is nothing more than a primal example of the human nature wanting to be opposite against the general accepted social behavior in the tribe. Satan itself is fine example of this idea, for he rejects the common ideology and dictatorial way of Yahweh. If all those millions of Angels agreed with Satan on this topic and joined him resulting in the fabrication of fallen Angels, than there must have definitely been something wrong with the political way of ruling as Yahweh did. I see this more as a metaphor, not as a serious thing that actually happened.

And, ironically, I laugh at Satanists (with all due respect) because many who claim to be rebelling against the falsity of Christianity are in fact stuck still in the same false dichotomy and duality of ME/Western religion, i.e. light versus dark, god versus satan, etc. One hasn't TRULY exited the Judeo-Christian paradigm if they merely pick the other side within it. Still stuck as far as I believe.

...or morals are declining as the empire crumbles.

a reply to: TrueBrit

I'm pretty sure that Beyonce has more influence and fans than any one of the metal bands you are talking about. This means she is not trivial, (although her music may be to us) because she has a huge impact on the population. So I disagree with the notion that they were a bad place to start.

A metal band can be as satanic as it likes, until it is reaching the masses it is nothing more than a fringe cult of sorts. Modern day ICONS, are the ones you want to worry about. The ones paraded around as idols. I don't see these metal bands brought onto T.V shows to offer their trivial opinion, but stupid celebrities there are plenty.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Velom
Satanism is nothing more than a primal example of the human nature wanting to be opposite against the general accepted social behavior in the tribe. Satan itself is fine example of this idea, for he rejects the common ideology and dictatorial way of Yahweh. If all those millions of Angels agreed with Satan on this topic and joined him resulting in the fabrication of fallen Angels, than there must have definitely been something wrong with the political way of ruling as Yahweh did. I see this more as a metaphor, not as a serious thing that actually happened.

And, ironically, I laugh at Satanists (with all due respect) because many who claim to be rebelling against the falsity of Christianity are in fact stuck still in the same false dichotomy and duality of ME/Western religion, i.e. light versus dark, god versus satan, etc. One hasn't TRULY exited the Judeo-Christian paradigm if they merely pick the other side within it. Still stuck as far as I believe.

I didn't grow up Christian. I became Christian a few years ago. I was Godless for a long time. Me believing has next to nothing to do with my Judeo-Christian upbringing as you'd probably call it. I grew up away from God and found him in later life.

People always tarnish Christians with the same brush. I'm not a happy clappy Christian who has believed since they were brainwashed by their parents when they were little. Quite the opposite. In fact, all my life it seems as though there has been an effort to remove Christianity from the public.

I am agnostic. There must be some grand architect but I feel man doesn't have a clue. I believe in science to a degree. It really is the best information we have at the moment. That doesn't mean I don't have a moral compass or incapable of being bad. I am what I choose to be. With the right circumstances, we all can do some vile #. I'd rather prevent those and live happy.

Shock rock, death metal, and punk was born in hearts of our rebel sons and daughters. Rap , hip hop, and pop are getting into the fray. It is an expression of that. The same reason children have rebelled against their fathers and mothers. The record companies know this. They are in the market to make money. They don't care if it is immoral. Is it immoral or is it like a movie, a work of fiction.

a reply to: TrueBrit

You beat me to it.

If Beyonce's music is satanic then she's doing it wrong-maybe Deicide can help her out with that.

Satanic imagery in music is as old as the album cover and so are the lyrics printed on the sleeves. I don't need to love the devil to appreciate the 'devils music'- it's just a happy coincidence when my love of blasting and palm muting coincides with satanic lyrics, but apparently that's nothing compared to the abhorrent symbolism that is found in pop music.

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Velom
Satanism is nothing more than a primal example of the human nature wanting to be opposite against the general accepted social behavior in the tribe. Satan itself is fine example of this idea, for he rejects the common ideology and dictatorial way of Yahweh. If all those millions of Angels agreed with Satan on this topic and joined him resulting in the fabrication of fallen Angels, than there must have definitely been something wrong with the political way of ruling as Yahweh did. I see this more as a metaphor, not as a serious thing that actually happened.

And, ironically, I laugh at Satanists (with all due respect) because many who claim to be rebelling against the falsity of Christianity are in fact stuck still in the same false dichotomy and duality of ME/Western religion, i.e. light versus dark, god versus satan, etc. One hasn't TRULY exited the Judeo-Christian paradigm if they merely pick the other side within it. Still stuck as far as I believe.

I didn't grow up Christian. I became Christian a few years ago. I was Godless for a long time. Me believing has next to nothing to do with my Judeo-Christian upbringing as you'd probably call it. I grew up away from God and found him in later life.

People always tarnish Christians with the same brush. I'm not a happy clappy Christian who has believed since they were brainwashed by their parents when they were little. Quite the opposite. In fact, all my life it seems as though there has been an effort to remove Christianity from the public.

Fair enough, and I didn't mean to say all Christians are this or that.

But do you see my point about Satanists, that they are merely jumping to the opposite of the same coin? I was speaking about Satanists, not Christians.

a reply to: HedyLamarr
Interesting, what is the Mason stargate connection, did the early Masons even know about stargates?