Missing Plane Air Asia

a reply to: TrueBrit

What makes you think that kind of technology does not exist already?

a reply to: Bigburgh

That's a smart idea!

One plane could be saying "hey! I'm a thing! And look over there, another thing!" Every time there is something around to get a read on.

a reply to: southbeach

Because ATC systems are on average 20-30 years behind. The FAA has been trying to update the US system for fifteen years, but since their funding is by continuing resolution and not an actual budget, they can't do anything but emergency repairs.

Ah geez, not again

I sure hope whatever was spotted not far from the take-off area is indeed the AA jet, and that they had a successful water landing with all hands alive. If we have another erroneous report with nothing there like with the MA "fireball" from the rig, then I'm going to assume Cthulhu is snatching snacks from mid-air or something.

a reply to: southbeach

Because we do not yet live under the aegis of the United Federation of Planets, and Mr Data (may god rest his processors) cannot just do his little life forms finger dance and find anyone , any where, at any time. We would not loose planes, ships, and personal yachts at sea every year otherwise.

a reply to: TrueBrit

This is kind of what TCAS is.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Bigburgh

That's a smart idea!

One plane could be saying "hey! I'm a thing! And look over there, another thing!" Every time there is something around to get a read on.

Lol..not my idea.. you and Zaphod are stating it...

a reply to: justwanttofly

Kind of. And even more ADS. But to truly pull it off the whole ATC system needs rebuilding.

My absolute regret to the families and as always, my heart
weeps for the children. Bad bad news.

some ground crew idiot has released the pax manifest.I hope it's a hoax.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
some ground crew idiot has released the pax manifest.I hope it's a hoax.

Are you able to post it?

a reply to: Zaphod58

My point is with the black budget we never see what it's spent on..
TPTB never broadcast how far they are technologically advanced and the boy Bush let it slip that they can actually remotely fly planes nowadays and that was right after 911 so tracking a plane wherever it is does not seem so sophisticated does it?

Flightradar24 says the position shown in the picture below is where the plane was estimated to be when radar contact was lost. It's concurrent with what was posted about a crash east of Belitung Island.

originally posted by: justwanttofly
Flightradar24 says the position shown in the picture below is where the plane was estimated to be when radar contact was lost. It's concurrent with what was posted about a crash east of Belitung Island.

Ahh.. so whoever said in an emergency situation in that area. Go left..
Makes good sense now..

a reply to: southbeach

They were remotely flying planes since before there were manned planes.

You can't track in real time when there are almost 100,000 commercial flights in the air on any given day. There are over 30,000, over the US alone. Add in business and general aviation and US flights go to over 80,000 a day. All of which at some point during their flight have to be tracked. Over the course of a year there are hundreds of millions of flights around the world, and passenger counts in the billions.

You can do anything with the black budget according to some, but simple numbers make real time and near real time tracking insanely difficult with current systems.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Yachts and ships are not planes,you cannot fly them into an area whereby you will cause mass destruction.

a reply to: southbeach

But this has nothing what so ever to do with ATC system improvement monies, which are what is actually needed in order for disappearing planes to be a thing of the past, rather than an awful bit of the present. What the NSA is capable of is not relevant to the topic at hand, because we will only ever find out exactly what their skills set is in this regard when there is a matter of national security, or national embarrassment at stake.

Its black money, and therefore speculation on it solves nothing. What is needed by the sounds of things, is a ground up reimagining of ATC systems, world wide.

a reply to: opethPA

I'm kinda the eternal skeptic, and even I'm starting to wonder if this area is a now an Alien picking ground for airliners....

Hoping for some good news on this one!

a reply to: southbeach

Nuke in a harbour? Thermobaric detonation near an oil platform? Or an onshore refinery perhaps?

There is a place near me called Shellhaven, deals with petrochemical shipping and refinery processing. As far as I am aware, if you let off a MOAB within a mile of that place, most of the county goes boom.

a reply to: Bigburgh

Indonesian authorities say that the crew requested a "left track" and a climb to 38,000 to avoid clouds, which is indicative of dodging thunderstorms.