Lets create Teleportation & Time Travel

originally posted by: groundy056
a reply to: AnuTyr



All of your concerns and opinions are based on what you believe to happen if we were to time travel. Your points would be valid if that was 100% fact. But we dont' know that. I would like to know that and that would be part of the purpose of trying to create it.

These are the same fears that kept people from sailing around the world during the begining of our current civilization.

Best to come up with a way to time travel that uses a technology which pervades all things being the micro black holes contained in all matter at the quantum level.

Various explorations with the mind could yield time travel too in my opinion, through the power of intention.

Besides the brain/mind/counsiousness time travels just to allow us to react to things in sync with our environment, we just need to get the keys to our DNA, junk or otherwise in order to reprogram ourselves or turn on the genes that controll our interaction with space time more along the lines of what we want it to do.

Biotechnology may be the big elephant in the room. Why? When we study creatures in nature that use the quantum world we can target and identify the genes that allow them to do so. I remember reading about a kind of kelp which quantum tunnels energy to different parts of its massive structure from the surface of the ocean to the sea floor. In fact lots of animals and creatures in nature have what we would consider super powers, we just need to turn on our own super time traveling genes to become our own time machines.

For years biologists have been wary of applying the strange world of quantum mechanics, where particles can be in two places at once or connected over huge distances, to their own field. But it can help to explain some amazing natural phenomena we take for granted.
www.theguardian.com...

I really don't believe in what others have written about time travel. From my own personal experiences I truly don't believe in the butterfly effect. I don't believe in multiverses. And I don't believe in time being linear.

We have discovered electricity, radioactive material, we have harnessed power through different methods, and we can travel into space.

If we can see farther than our own naked eyes with what we have engineered while being able to transmit data by means of invisible waves, then there is a way to achieve the ability of time travel.

Everyone wants time travel to give you the ability to carry physical material with you. In fact that is what you want. It is the only means you can imagine. It is how so many want to achieve it. By physical means. To be able to carry a gun, or information on a small device, or even to bring something back with us. We want it to be physical.

Machines were not even fathomed thousands of years ago. Cars, computers, music on vinyl, photographs on a smart phone shared with the entire world with a touch of a small button in our pockets. Why is it that time travel has to be a physical method. Our own sense of smell is a wonder filled marvel that our own bodies conjured up as a means to detect something.

There has to be another way to achieve it. You just have to be creative enough to pursue it.

Maybe it can be metaphysical, maybe even telepathic, maybe anatomical, genetic, pathological, accidental, or transmitable.

There has to be a method that hasn't been uncovered yet. Maybe because we are too busy thinking of a different method that will never work due to our own fear in actually finding and testing it.

Set fear aside and explore.

originally posted by: GiulXainx
I really don't believe in what others have written about time travel. From my own personal experiences I truly don't believe in the butterfly effect. I don't believe in multiverses. And I don't believe in time being linear.



We have discovered electricity, radioactive material, we have harnessed power through different methods, and we can travel into space.



If we can see farther than our own naked eyes with what we have engineered while being able to transmit data by means of invisible waves, then there is a way to achieve the ability of time travel.



Everyone wants time travel to give you the ability to carry physical material with you. In fact that is what you want. It is the only means you can imagine. It is how so many want to achieve it. By physical means. To be able to carry a gun, or information on a small device, or even to bring something back with us. We want it to be physical.



Machines were not even fathomed thousands of years ago. Cars, computers, music on vinyl, photographs on a smart phone shared with the entire world with a touch of a small button in our pockets. Why is it that time travel has to be a physical method. Our own sense of smell is a wonder filled marvel that our own bodies conjured up as a means to detect something.



There has to be another way to achieve it. You just have to be creative enough to pursue it.



Maybe it can be metaphysical, maybe even telepathic, maybe anatomical, genetic, pathological, accidental, or transmitable.



There has to be a method that hasn't been uncovered yet. Maybe because we are too busy thinking of a different method that will never work due to our own fear in actually finding and testing it.



Set fear aside and explore.

Some good points there, however I do believe in most of the things you dont believe in but thats besides the point.

I agree that there must be another way, if we look at our perception of time that may be a start.

For example various drugs are said to effect the minds perception of time and space:

Ms Roache said drugs could be developed to distort prisoners' minds ... have
served a 1,000 year sentence in 8 hours, a group of scientists have claimed.
www.telegraph.co.uk...

I remember a while back when I tripped on some really crazy # from my friend that it felt like an entire day had passed in what seemed like 5 minutes. I remember thinking about a few thousand things during that time but my mind felt... completely normal. I remember my trip on salvia making it feel like I was falling into a couch, but my sense of time was way off. It felt like time had actually acellerated a few hours while I was looking out of the window. I do believe our perception of time can be skewed but when it comes to drugs....

I think it would require a bit too much time to properly research. A mind on drugs tends to wary. Trying to keep the subject focused could prove difficult. Especially when the subject itself can create several false positives when it comes to brain activity. Only due to each subject's own neglect. And everyone reacts to drugs differently so what happens to one subject will not produce the same results in another. The number of factors surrounding the use of drugs could prove annoying. Only if there were enough statistics proven in a drug to stabalize that specific element of perception.

But falling back on what I have experienced myself on the subject of future sight. The only thing that connected me to my conciousness in my own future was my mind exploring a huge grey area. And I can only achieve this in a lucid dreaming state of mind.

I have discovered a small link. And only a few select group of people have ever come forth stating they have done the same. Granted this ability doesn't allow me to control what I want or need to see or do. It only allows me to see at that given place and time. But it is brief and without a precise sense of time. I have tried to induce my mind to drive into the grey area but it is hard to do so. Oh crap... I missed one more detail...

originally posted by: GiulXainx
I remember a while back when I tripped on some really crazy # from my friend that it felt like an entire day had passed in what seemed like 5 minutes. I remember thinking about a few thousand things during that time but my mind felt... completely normal. I remember my trip on salvia making it feel like I was falling into a couch, but my sense of time was way off. It felt like time had actually acellerated a few hours while I was looking out of the window. I do believe our perception of time can be skewed but when it comes to drugs....



I think it would require a bit too much time to properly research. A mind on drugs tends to wary. Trying to keep the subject focused could prove difficult. Especially when the subject itself can create several false positives when it comes to brain activity. Only due to each subject's own neglect. And everyone reacts to drugs differently so what happens to one subject will not produce the same results in another. The number of factors surrounding the use of drugs could prove annoying. Only if there were enough statistics proven in a drug to stabalize that specific element of perception.



But falling back on what I have experienced myself on the subject of future sight. The only thing that connected me to my conciousness in my own future was my mind exploring a huge grey area. And I can only achieve this in a lucid dreaming state of mind.

I have discovered a small link. And only a few select group of people have ever come forth stating they have done the same. Granted this ability doesn't allow me to control what I want or need to see or do. It only allows me to see at that given place and time. But it is brief and without a precise sense of time. I have tried to induce my mind to drive into the grey area but it is hard to do so. Oh crap... I missed one more detail...

Also dreams may provide some insight into time I can say that I have experienced various times and timelines in dreams. I have also experienced a slowing of time in dreams likened to days but it was just a dream, or was it?

Here is a dream manipulation device based on a game controller set to be released next year, its believed they will be able really effect dreams of the public meaning full Inception in 2050ish or full on Total Recall:

lifeboat.com...

I have seen inception before. But what they were trying to achieve was different than time travel or teleportation. They wanted to achieve life in a world controlled by them. They wanted to explore how far they could stretch time by having a dream within a dream. A great idea behind a concept. Especially considering they were able to connect brain activity to another brain.

The device from that site would be a great tool to have regardless of the proceedure used to connect it directly into the brain. The ability to record dreams would be a definite plus. But the recording of brain activity is still a bit of a mystery. Considering the use of electromagnetic nodes, or what ever they call the process of information transferring to the brain, and the use of different minerals inside of our entire body. Being able to replicate an entire human body including intellect and structure should be a project to fulfill. Only to prove the understanding of our programming.

I say that only because it would better prepare us for a worst case scenario.

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a commercialised product in the process. With too much access I believe control over our own way of life would become harder due to other individuals personal greed. I'm not saying I am free of greed, I just want to have the best enjoyment of my life and nothing more. However our current way of life is stifling at best. And with more individuals blended into the project it could prove difficult to sustain a stable formula. But that is my own fear coming into play due to how we perceive others. If only we could rid ourselves from the love of the money and trade system.

Moving on the small detail I missed was the input from other individuals in my dreams of the future. In almost every dream another person infiltrated my mind in order for my train of thought to enter that grey area. In other words another party or event had to occur in order to catch my train of thought off guard. Without having proper knowledge of the subject at hand. And it was always something that could not be recalled through text, or memory. At least not entirely. It required input from past experiences and creating a new one at the same time. Whilist being able to construct it properly for another to understand through means of speech.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

The funny thing about precise location within the universe, with the way you understand it, is linearity. Or to better explain it the order of which you believe it to function is written in a code or form for reference. Like a computer game.

Until we find a mean of discovering this code, understanding it, and executing it then it can not be controlled. But I must try to explain to you that there must be another method to easily pinpoint this construction without those means. Try recalling the pythagorean theorem.

If you know two out of three then you find the third using a certain method. It is only used in geometry, yet it can be applied to so much more. If you know the cause and effect, then it makes it easier to reimagine the events that took place. But proving it to be true or false is left up to the source to confirm or deny it. But it doesn't hurt to experiment with different parameters, or method of execution.

a reply to: groundy056

From my understanding Teleportation & Time Travel is all possible in this present day or each one of us can do it.

The present day form of travel of most or all ET's is called Non local locality or by location.

It''s not that hard to do, but you must fist understand that it requires a hole new way of seeing things for nothing is what is seams to be.

Non local locality is the movement between two places, like sitting in your chair and seeing another chair 3 feet away from you.

Now you don't get of your chair you just change your location to the other chair. The other chair does not move but you do.
A really good move of how this would look like is called Jumper it would give you a good idea of what we can do.


Thus you moved from one chair to the other with out having to cross the space in between, now you can travel any where in the universe with out needed to spend time in between locations. ET's do this all the time they have a better understanding of time and space, we don't and so we do it the hard way walk, fly, run, space ships.

They have a better understanding of the Quantum universe, as to how they by locate from place to place is easy as well.

The atom is the road map to the universe, it holds every set frequency of every location of the universe and every time line past and present and future places. Every atom is it's self is a hologram of the all that there is. You see the world is and all that there is, is separated by the infinite but distinctive set of frequency's that separate everything at the quantum level that all ET's have access to.

Now the last part and 2 things DNA and super conductor, upon understanding how this plays a roll in your body determines if you can by locate, for it take a lot of energy to move from place to place using your body. It's not impossible to do so as the conditions have to be just right for this to happen, you must also understand how this all works to do so as.

In our present human form our DNA is more that capable of this but our present mind sets make us believe that we need something more to move and travail, in a world and reality of infinite possibility's but most choose to live in a world of limits. It take time and effort to understand how the universe works, and nothing is easy.


30 years of research has led me to some vary out of the box thinking this is as real as it gets.

But each to there own, go ahead wait for that star ship when you could be moving through out the universe tomorrow.




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a reply to: Lokahi

in 1994, Mexican theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre came up with a work-around. By artificially warping space — essentially picking up a piece of fabric at two points and bringing them together — a ship could travel incredible distances while avoiding the speed-of-light problem.

This is to show that it does work.

The superposition from quantum physics states that everything is actually everywhere at once, so essentially particles are everywhere at all times allowing travel to be instant sort of like quantum tunneling.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

So to be everywhere at once.... yet in one place.... how can you disappear? As in be no where at all?

originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: iDope

Yeah but if Jesus was brough from the passed into the future then anything you said would be null and void cuz Jesus needs to have God so God would show up in this time line. Then Jesus could stop the people who want to go to the passed to cause chaos before they make it because the good guys will get to Jesus first. Unless of course both parties made it to the passed Duked it out and a bullet happened to graze caesars head which triggered the whole cross thing that led to his crusifition. Since the romans said it was the will of the Gods that if he should live he should live since he's a wizard and wizards are likely canditates for randomflying projectives that knick emperors on occasion.

Now how would that Effect the time line? What if Jesus was transported to America at the same time this was happening, So that he could meet John smith in the future where the book of mormon was establish in the holy province of Utah?

Then he went back in the passed and met Muhammed. And now in the near future we will be expecting him to come back with treasures and knowledge of his passed deeds. But since this timeline to our definition is screwed up when we go back in time it will mess up the first timeline prepared for where we are right now thus forcing them to utilize Jesus in another time frame or assassinating his mother well hes still being born as to quell the knowledge of his return from all of existance unless Jesus follows him from that timeline and uses his powers from god to trap them there so he can banish them to hell. But what if someone knew that was going to happen? Then set up a preplan to trap Jesus? Jesus is about to stop that individual when another individual knows Jesus is gunna stop him so he does something else to stop Jesus. Eventually over 10,000 people are surrounding Jesus each with their own Ideas. At the same time Nukes are flying thru the air and futuristic weapons are locking on and firing, all originating from different timelines. To eliminate the Anomoly that is Jesus.

So are we here to band together to help Jesus in his crusade to screw the timeline up or are we going to use him to screw the timeline up? Or will he use us? Lol what will happen with Jesus and time Travel? The Conciquences are endless!

Nowhere in the OP does it mention Jesus. Nor that he was a timetraveler. It mentions the Bible.

Half of the Bible has nothing at all to do with Jesus. All that was written wasn't based off of first hand incounters. Jesus is a popstar figure. Are there many White Egyptian natives that look like what the church shoves down your throat. He certainly wouldn't have flowing locks and his followers wouldn't be depicted as White men either, as they are everywhere propogated by the church. If God or Jesus was the Word, there would be no need to edit it hundreds of times over the years. If you wrote a book, died, and through out the next 2000 years would you appreciate it being edited so many times?

The Old Testament is many religions jumbled together in one text, to place fear in man, as there is always a higher power to place judgement. The New Testament is an occultist organization that has complete power over the word they preach, as they preach out of lies, and do not follow the word of Jesus themselves. AT ALL. That is a fact. They will say one thing and do the other. They are man and corruptable. They are celebate yet have rectum relations in rumpous rooms with really young children. To follow a religion is the same as following a cult. There is no difference. However, the bible spans generations and includes knowledge through out the world so it automatically has credence. Yet the credence devalues as it is edited. And a supposedly true story about Jesus was created hundreds of years after he passed in order to give hope, but also to give you the End of Times, Revelations. With hope comes demise.

originally posted by: groundy056
a reply to: iDope

Thank you for your reply. You are exactly right. Like you said if it is possible for the people to meet that works. However also via video (which is probably how to begin). Each person gets a task, upon completion of many tasks (firstly I think trying methods, or forms of methods apparently "real"). What is learnt from each task would be the proccess of elimination along with learning. After doing this and discussing findings and theories etc we would come to some reasonable conclusions that would require real trials. That is when we would all need to be together.

I know I am simplifing this extremely, however am very serious about achieving this.

I said to my father this past week on one of our many time travel talks. "I just wish I got to experience this, it is my dream). He just said 'why can't you"?

As per you second post. Every way I look at it I seem to come to the same conclusion. (Past being acheivable, future not so much). Of course than there is always the whole if you go back in time you just create a different reality or time line. I don't believe in this to much. I am not of 1 opinion though.

What if it were as simple as creating a "drug" that could send you back in time (or forwards I suppose), mentally. You could appear in the past as you, as you would project your form. Possibly taking on whatever form you can imagine.

I mean, if people can leave their bodies, an OBE or astral projection, whos to say that same theory couldn't be used in time travel? Imagine taking this "drug" and imaging a person, place, memory in time and visiting it with consciousness in that time you imagined. Who knows what could happen from this. Maybe you cannot alter time, but you can visit it. Example, you imagine the day you were born and go back to that moment, you can watch it like a movie but cannot change anyhting about what happened. You see the doctor and his face that pulled you out. The next experience you imagine you are that doctor at that exact same time, and boom, you are pulling yourself out of your mother. That would be crazy.

So therefore, you would not create a new timeline, but yet experience a time in the past. It would be much safer if that were the case IMHO. And if there were a true creator of the universe I don't readily seeing this being allowed to whomever with knowledge or money to build a machine to transport physical beings through time to exist. It would almost discredit the being and the supposed choices it has made to get the universe to where it is at today. If it is a design that is, controlling all time. But then again there is no reason to attempt. Just thought I may put a new spin on it, being a mental time travel, as I start to almost talk myself into the reality that it may be more plausible than physically transporting.

What if time wasnt linear at all, we are just programed to see it in a linear fashion. Perhaps we just need to tweak the program a bit to see time as an ocean raher than a stream.

Hmm... time machine is possible, but time is not yet fully understood and may be highly dangerous. Messing with time changes timelines and God knows what else. These machines give out unknown radiation and not suitable for any flesh and blood lifeforms. Much like alien abductions that drain the blood
a reply to: groundy056

If the world is just a simulation then moving through time could be as simple as entering the correct space time coordinates of where we wish to intereact with the simulation like moving through save points in a video game.

First the baby steps.

To go make a time machine, first a stargate or wormhole (whatever you want to call it) that transports people in the present time from one location to another needs to be made.

Then you enhance that to travel in time. One direction only first, then the other. Just a wild conjecture: "Going backwards in time is probably easier than going forwards (??)".

originally posted by: AnuTyr
United for Jesus?



Why should humans get Time travel?

I'd prefer it if we didn't have it... What if a majority of the population thinks Time travel is a bad idea?

are you saying we should go back in time and kidnap Jesus and bring him to the future to fullfill prophecy?

OMG hahaha dude that is some funny stuff. You get a star!

Pro: We could do some good ti be able to go forward of back, but only if we are fully aware of the potential consequences, and what are the odds that the rich would just use it to get richer or the military to change outcome (that might actually be both in one now that I think about it), or something equally evil.

Con: We can screw up other timeline when we're done screwing up our own.

Not sure I see many pros this bleary eyed New Years morning. I guess you can tell I don't have a lot of faith in humanity or hope for this timeline at the moment.

ETA: I think we probably already have time travel.

I still don't believe in time being linear. I believe history is linear while the present is the recording of the future. Going backwards in time to change one thing could mean a million different choices could be changed. But I believe it would not be as broad of a change most make it out to be.

I have seen a lot of movies handle the fantasy of time travel differently but I do believe a lot of important decisions would still be made unless you kill that specific idea. I believe the idea would still be brought up to other people but its complex structure would be different.

The one thing about time travel being the responsibility for an entire existence is not true. I see it being the responsibility behind creating the world of your dreams.

Like dancing between god and the devil every day.