It's Over - Congress Quietly Ends Federal Government's Ban on Medical Marijuana

originally posted by: IceHappy
a reply to: Realtruth

Wonderful and now may American law now start to influence the end of probation here in the UK... As an American trapped behind redcoat lines I am in awe...

I went to the doctor two days ago he said when I asked about the progress of medical MJ he said that he does not want pot heads for clients and that if I am in more pain.... take more morphine

WTF is wrong this this guy....

Merry Christmas OP and ATS

Wish I could give more than one star and one measly flag

Take more morphine

What med "school" did the NHS dredge that fool from?

Now if they can just stop funding the rest of the government, maybe the rest of the laws would change for the better too. It would hopefully lower our taxes at least.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

They dont lower the taxes the take the same amount of money and put it into something else.

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: Realtruth

Well now how would Big Pharm be able to exploit a whole new profit center if it were banned? Oh let's not forget the tobacco companies too.

Should make for some nice political contributions.

Actually seeing how the government owns the patent to THC big pharma would find it kind of hard to profit from MMJ.
Does The U.S. Government Own A Patent On Marijuana?

Under U.S. federal law, marijuana is defined as having no medical use. So it might come as a surprise to hear that the government owns one of the only patents on marijuana as a medicine. The patent (US6630507) is titled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” and was awarded to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in October 2003.

This just proves the government has been lying to the people about marijuana having medical purposes.

Good. Maybe now people will stop whining.

Now i wish the rest of the states would just go ahead and decriminalization weed and get it over with.

I still think that the US Constitution is not worth the hemp it was written on, but this is definitely a step in the right direction. What is sad however is that moves of this nature will be dictated more by money than by common sense or a sense of goodness, but I suppose that progress is progress, no matter the motivation behind it. I am assuming that this news is true, but I have yet to see it anywhere else, but I will state that it would not surprise me for such things to be stuck in a spending bill. That is another problem with this country...we have here a bill that MUST be passed for the government to function, so the criminals in congress take advantage of this situation to sneak in just about anything they can think of, knowing that it essentially must be passed. In a couple of instances this works out for the best, but in the majority of cases it does not. We need a radical change in the way this nation is governed in my opinion.

Just because the DOJ has been defunded, does not been other law enforcement agencies will not go after the medical marijuana growth industry. As a side note, what happens between states that have no marijuana laws and states that do, and they border each other. There is going to be a lot of court cases in the future about this problem. One case now starting is between Colorado-Oklahoma-Nebraska.
www.npr.org...

For those of you who think that you have won, this just clears the way for the FDA to start regulating it. Wait and see.

a reply to: Realtruth

I can't believe it took this long to hit ATS. The L.A. Times reported it on the 16th. Better late than never.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
Just because the DOJ has been defunded, does not been other law enforcement agencies will not go after the medical marijuana growth industry. As a side note, what happens between states that have no marijuana laws and states that do, and they border each other. There is going to be a lot of court cases in the future about this problem. One case now starting is between Colorado-Oklahoma-Nebraska.
www.npr.org...

You are correct in part, but what is involved here is big money. Money that the states can share in equally, instead of one department.

For years only the DOJ has profited from the drug war on Marijuana, and with the advent of state legalization, and Colorado balancing it's budget rather quickly I don't see anyone, or group stopping it from becoming legal at the federal level also.

The supreme court case will, imo put an end to marijuana being illegal. The original laws will be challenged and found unconstitutional, then overturned. That's how I believe it is going to go down.

Too many people at state levels see how profitable this venture is, so the states will have a massive cadre or the best lawyers working on this one.

Let's wait and see.

originally posted by: Realtruth




Too many people at state levels see how profitable this venture is, so the states will have a massive cadre or the best lawyers working on this one.

Let's wait and see.

But with the political will seemingly shifting to the Christian Right Republican/Tparty, ultra conservative, Right wing; do you still see MJ as being allowed to become a widely available "product"? I think that they may infact expand the war on drugs to fill their corporate prisons.

originally posted by: olaru12

But with the political will seemingly shifting to the Christian Right Republican/Tparty, ultra conservative, Right wing; do you still see MJ as being allowed to become a widely available "product"? I think that they may infact expand the war on drugs to fill their corporate prisons.

Then they better make alcohol illegal too.

Republicans, Christians right and others will turn their collective heads as long as they are making money and it's being shared equally.

It's hard to close Pandora's box once it's been opened and today everything is about a money/tax grab. Colorado's books do not lie and other states want a piece of that pie, as well as Wall Street.

I feel that Wall Street saw the overall numbers, and can see that hemp will be a profitable new commodity to be traded not only in the medical area, but as a crop like corn, wheat, and soybeans.

Like I said way to much money can be made from this venture, to allow just the DOJ to profit from it and the first shot was fired by this bill showing the DOJ they are not in control. Kinda like telling them to get prepared to accept the facts.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: Realtruth

Well now how would Big Pharm be able to exploit a whole new profit center if it were banned? Oh let's not forget the tobacco companies too.

Should make for some nice political contributions.

Actually seeing how the government owns the patent to THC big pharma would find it kind of hard to profit from MMJ.
Does The U.S. Government Own A Patent On Marijuana?

Under U.S. federal law, marijuana is defined as having no medical use. So it might come as a surprise to hear that the government owns one of the only patents on marijuana as a medicine. The patent (US6630507) is titled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” and was awarded to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in October 2003.

This just proves the government has been lying to the people about marijuana having medical purposes.

How Can you have Patent a Natural Grown Substance Unless it been Altered and Modified .. Artificially...

Then Again you have Morgan Freeman Trademarking his His Own Name First and Last.. So no one could Use it >> LOL

Should You Trademark Your Name?
www.legalzoom.com...

Something is Wrong in this Picture ...

originally posted by: StoutBroux
a reply to: Realtruth

I can't believe it took this long to hit ATS. The L.A. Times reported it on the 16th. Better late than never.

It didn't take that long to hit ATS. I said this on the 11th. Though admittedly it was buried in another thread I wrote. So you could say that it took this long for a thread on it to appear.

Major victory eh?

Only In America will people demonize one toxic smoke, and embrace another toxic smoke, all on a health care kick.

Saying it's 'good' for you.

originally posted by: neo96
Major victory eh?

Only In America will people demonize one toxic smoke, and embrace another toxic smoke, all on a health care kick.

Saying it's 'good' for you.

Cigarettes is a toxic smoke marijuana is not a toxic smoke. In the thousands of years of it being used there is not one death that has been cause by marijuana. Also there are many peoples lives that have been improved thanks to marijuana and that just shows that yes it is good for you.

originally posted by: olaru12

That may be true but remember that MJ is a weed that can easily be grown.

It's not a weed; it's an herb.


" noun
1.
a valueless plant growing wild, especially one that grows on cultivated ground to the exclusion or injury of the desired crop.



noun
1.
a flowering plant whose stem above ground does not become woody.
2.
such a plant when valued for its medicinal properties, flavor, scent, or the like.

originally posted by: neo96
Major victory eh?

Only In America will people demonize one toxic smoke, and embrace another toxic smoke, all on a health care kick.

Saying it's 'good' for you.

If you think inhaling the smoke of the burned plant matter is the only way to consume THC, well, you have quite a lot of research left to do. Tar is the potentially cancerous substance; vaporizing or ingesting completely eliminates the presence of tar. When it comes to cigarettes, there is nothing you can do to remove the nicotine, which is toxic on its own, without the presence of tar. Combine that with the tar of smoked tobacco, and the fact that most cigarette smokers do a pack a day - it doesn't take somebody with a perfect SAT score to sort out which is actually more toxic.

Now that I got fed up with weed.

Yay... one arbitrary grouping of chemicals is well on it's way to being able to be consumed without severe socioeconomic/physical punishment... now for the rest in a rather long list.

We are a very silly group of primates.... and yeah, I've probably been screwing with my own biochemical programming too much... if such were possible.