How will people survive economically in the New World Order?

The New World Order (at least when it comes to jobs) has already happened in 2008. Companies have "trimmed the fat", laid off a lot of people, lowered wages, and have learned to make record profits while squeezing every penny out of the workforce.

We have college grads competing for $12/hour jobs. High school grads can't get jobs. Generation Y is Generation Broke.


But thankfully, the older generation, who have established themselves in the job market before 2008, and still doing OK (provided they were not laid off). Generation Y still has financially-comfortable parents. And this is only the beginning. Generation Y can still "make it", though it is harder now.


What will happen when we are even deeper in the New World Order, when Generation Y ARE the parents, and Generation Y's children are facing an even worse job market? Generation Y can still survive financially, though it is tough. But how will the next generation survive?

Alex Jones did say that we will have a 2-class system and that the middle class will be destroyed. It is already happening, and it will get worse.

a reply to: thetruth777

I don't really think many will survive the massive economic crash that is coming followed by a probable third world war. The future looks very, very bleak.

a reply to: thetruth777

Humans have always gathered together, for protection and commerce. I think we went awry when we started exploiting our resources in such a manner than these gathering places (cities) were no longer self-sustaining. When we depend upon resources from outside, the shutting down of those resource kill people.

In order to survive, we may need to diversify and move away from the cities. Economic crashes still have opportunities for some people to survive within cities, however I fear the coming crash may be far worse than we've experienced in the past. I hope that does not come to be, as global war would almost be a certainty (imo).

a reply to: thetruth777

Would the abolition of 'hard currency', maybe even the implementation of the oft mooted 'carbon currency' (where every adult not part of the elite would be allocated the same amount of carbon credits, regardless of job/no. of children) I read so much about just a few years ago, be necessary to fully realise the global elites' NWO?

a reply to: thetruth777

Greetings- Could I crawl out on a limb and ass/u/me (Yes, that is why I broke the word up, but then I'd be utilizing supposition on My end) that You currently reside in the United States? There is a real BIG world and just because Uncle Suga should be on Thorazine™ doesn't mean the whole world is circling the drain(s).. For instance, look at the current exchange rate for Uruguay to USD, last time I looked it was 22-1 and that was prior to the Uruguay government setting the price on a gram of cannabis in USD. If/when any of those who would like to participate in a war and drop big bombs, I'd think Uruguay and other hidden gems would be a lower priority than the US?? But I don't pay much mind to Doom Porn..

Will Generation Y's children see this and quit having kids that they can't afford? That is something that has always puzzled the "snip" out of Me, if it is so crappy in squalor or the surroundings that is in debate, why have any kids??? Why bring them into what it is that You're trying to escape?? Not many can escape but let's have 2 or 3 kids and see if that doesn't improve things... The farms are gone, so should having 3 or 4 kids!!!

Sorry about the mad tangent/rant there.. My point is, if Your current ecological niche sucks, MOVE. If Your current financial status sucks, improve it. I certainly don't direct this diatribe towards You, but to Society as a whole...

namaste

a reply to: thetruth777

You don't want to see the end result. The world has gone down this path before.

They will "survive" but at the will of the "Haves".

The large pockets of unemployed will be compartmentalized further.

The public aid districts will be the shelters for the poor.

Governments can't solve the problems.

Just add up the massive failures of the past few years alone.

Not a good future for many.

Trade and barter of goods and services.

Peace

We'll all be on EBT cards that require ID. Barely enough for basics, a little more if we perform the duties assigned to us. Travel restricted, water use limited, gas and electric limited. Free TV and cheap beer.

a reply to: JimNasium

Will Generation Y's children see this and quit having kids that they can't afford? That is something that has always puzzled the "snip" out of Me, if it is so crappy in squalor or the surroundings that is in debate, why have any kids??? Why bring them into what it is that You're trying to escape?? Not many can escape but let's have 2 or 3 kids and see if that doesn't improve things... The farms are gone, so should having 3 or 4 kids!!!

Because there is a proportion of society who thinks it is the World's duty to take care of these offspring.

As for the OP, people are finding it hard enough now, so when the crash comes, it's going to take us back to the dark ages. Here in the U.K we've been warned by none other than the Prime Minister to expect a financial crash, swiftly followed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer confirming that they see something on the horizon. Of course many have said it' sustain a politically motivated statement, due the the General Election taking place less than 6 months away.

The way things are going in Russia, they will either become much more secretive I.e introduce a communist style rule, thereby officially confirming the New Cold War; or they will will have to start a war to attract financial backing.

The fact is, with the advent of AI and robotic control of many economic activities, many humans will have no economic value at all. If you think college graduates are having a hard time, those who have no education are simply "not useful" in an economic sense. They have a negative value. Not that they don't want to. It's just that we don't have jobs on the farm that require no brains to speak of and a lot of brawn.

Now don't go all weird on me ranting about "every human has worth!" and all that. If you do travel down that route, you're part of the problem because you are not (perhaps willfully) understanding the depth of the issue. The people who DO understand the issue will inevitably do better, but it looks pretty grim for nearly everyone. There needs to be a fundamental shift in how society (not just government, which has a tenuous hold and understanding of the issues at best.)

In other words, government, except for a few, is clueless because it is composed of bureaucrats in comfortable jobs who see this only in the abstract, if at all, where their main concern is keeping hold of their comfort.

It ain't gonna be pretty.

We'll have to put a few additions on the consititution. Such as a right to life, A right to a home, A right to food, And a right to use electricity.

Desolve corperations that use any of these for profit and put in place publically funded organization that are publically owned and operated.

I think its about time people stopped controlling out vital resources and what makes us human.

There really is no other way around it.

Privitization will continue to drag us down. That is why many countries have banned Capitalism in their country because of the effects it has on countries like Africa.

Everyone can continue doing what ever they want. But its only going to get worse if the profit in incentive is still there.
Nothing good can come from this. There is no way i see this system continuing without massive suffering and loss of the human identity.

that is the ultimate outcome. it will be a paradigm shift of horror sci-fi brought to life. The old novel writers of the passed were prophets retelling our future.

Like like Orwellian and The giver settings of a future full of eugenics and population control. Where humans emotions are sapped out of them or non existant at all. Everyone becomes a slave for these corperation that will abuse us like hardware, Once they upgrade us to live a few hundred years, People will get that pension so they can get the cyborg upgrades they want. Or upload themselves onto a server database that will clone the programmed individual if you have enough money. So only the really important slaves would get that treatment.

They would eventually reduce the number of humans to such a thin number they will debate if keeping them alive is nessisary at all or a burden.

Many humans will disappear from the cloning society. Eventually decades go by. and what ever was human is no longer human but is more machine than living.

Evenually our species would then leave the planet, Same as the cyborgs. And the cyborgs would surch our all kinds of advanced live to convert it into itself.

Like cybermen from Dr Who. Sweeping across the universe deleting and upgrading lifeforms into its own agenda.

That pretty much will be the result of privitzation, And unless we turn to a public domain. These programs will be funded by darpa and the like in secret. And will only become available to those who are in power. Would would keep the most appealing tech for themselves and turn everyone else into mindless drones.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here, but many replies are assuming that an economic crash and world war will precede the rise of the NWO. I thought this subject was a NWO economy regardless of what brought the NWO to power.

From that point of view, I would think that we would be using a world fiat currency in a highly manipulated world market. Presumably some bubble would come along and blow it up or it would be a market under such tight control as to never fail. I doubt that growth could be sustained and that restrictions would be made in that area. A lowering of all living standards except the rich and powerful (of course).

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Yeah, exactly.
Replacing hard money with 'carbon credits' where every adult gets the same amount regardless of job, number of children and the credits expire every month so the individual has no ability to save/amass is one of the ways I believe the elites would achieve this. Of course the elites wouldn't need Carbon credits themselves, they would still operate on some kind of currency and would be able to amass it and spend it how they liked.

How the unemployed of working age would be evaluated/given worth I don't know. Essentially the masses would be slaves in all but title with no chance to climb the social ladder. Effectively there wouldn't be a social ladder to climb. We would live in a two tier society. The 'Haves' and the 'Carbon Credit Dependants'.

No war would be needed to bring this about. Just a phased transition from todays monetary system to carbon credits with a brief time in a period of 'electronic transaction only' along the way.

a reply to: HumberWarrior

Yeah, something like that sounds about right.

Your idea is going the way I thought this thread should be going at any rate.

Whatever will keep the populace fat, dumb, and lazy.

That's the best way to maintain power, a complacent populace.

The carbon credit system would also (over time) reduce population (nobody could sustain themselves as a couple and more than one child, sick would die quicker, etc,) ensuring resources are not used up by fat lazy people no matter how gullible they are. Fat and lazy would be a drain.

Everything would be tied to the carbon credits system including healthcare. No welfare state as well perhaps? If you're unemployed you'd be 'surplus' and have to hope you could rely on friends/relatives helping you out on their (meagre) carbon credits. If not....tough. Starve or seek refuge in some self sufficient enclave away from the cities. But remember....all land is owned by someone so you'd be squatting.

My guess is the population would drop dramatically within just 20 - 30 years.

Anyone on here know how to work these kinda systems/projections out mathematically?

a reply to: HumberWarrior

Your ideas about a NWO economy has gotten me to think of the many ways this could work. For example, a married couple would have combined credits and would be entitled to almost double the living area. Additional family members adding to the collected wealth of the family. The fact that the credits expire if unused is brilliant, as they can completely control your upward, or downward, mobility. This also assures that a certain level of consumerism occurs, thus controlling the markets as well.

Officially there would be a floor and ceiling cap on wealth, but behind the scenes deals and a parallel black market would allow for mobility. If you do the least possible work, you get the most basic of living standards. Put more effort into the cause and they will upgrade your living standard a little as a carrot for being a good serf. Do nothing at all and you are outside of their protection and will be used and abused by everyone you meet. You will bear a mark or wear some kind of "scarlet letter" that proclaims that you can be targeted for abuse.

Punishment for non compliance would naturally have to be harsh to quell dissent.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Remember: the only family members that 'earn' carbon credits are employed adults.
Punishment would simply be the withholding/reduction of carbon credits. They would keep the individual on such a tight reign through this system......would you really want to see your wife/partner/child not eat for three days/have no heating in winter etc. all because you stepped out of line over a matter of 'principle'?!? Would you want to suffer the psychological pressure said wife/partner/child could/would exert on you in such circumstances?!?

The carbon credit system would be intrinsically linked to a smart grid system to enable an even greater amount of control.

Being outside the system would be a precarious situation to be in. No access to food/fuel/water. All land would be owned by the elite and their technocrats. Nowhere to turn ultimately.

Even those that followed the rules would have a hard time surviving. Genetic defects that lead to health issues? Heart conditions, diabetes I & I I? You can either trade the credits for medical aid etc....or eat and keep warm. You don't get enough to do it all! Eventually only the genetically strong would be able to survive in such a harsh system. I'd love to be able to put all the factors into a big equation and work it all out but I hazard a guess the population would halve every generation until only those of a lot 'purer' genetics were the only ones left.

resources will be rationed by the State

we will be like the Borg...
or else resembling the Morlock strain of humans in Time Machine novel with the elites being the beautiful gods among men

you get resources and access to more by direct contribution to maintaining the matrix of sustainability

Christianity will come into major disfavor, a evolved Sharia Law will prevail where Zagat is a resource OK'ayed by the State