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originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Justaposter
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
You don't care that two innocent people were killed?
No. No I don't. They were cops, I place them in the same ranks as British soldiers in the 1700s and trollocs from the Wheel of Time.
wow
You can wow all you want. If that's your reaction then you haven't been paying attention.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been out-right robbed, harassed, threatened, and bullied by the gang members that we call police officers.
If this is the case, perhaps you should evaluate your behavior.
I find it very hard to believe that you are just sauntering around, minding your very own business and then BAM! you became robbed, harassed, threatened ect..
Someone's never heard of civil forfeiture.
Civil forfeiture is a lawful process that ONLY occurs in a VERY limited number of cases, predominantly drug cases involving large amounts of trafficking where we have decided that it would not be just to allow the lawbreaker to keep the spoils of his crimes. And yes, I would like to see it used more against white collar high level scumbags. But please stop acting like average citizens are waking up and finding the mean old government taking everything they own, because that is quite simply not the case.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Justaposter
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
You don't care that two innocent people were killed?
No. No I don't. They were cops, I place them in the same ranks as British soldiers in the 1700s and trollocs from the Wheel of Time.
wow
You can wow all you want. If that's your reaction then you haven't been paying attention.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been out-right robbed, harassed, threatened, and bullied by the gang members that we call police officers.
If this is the case, perhaps you should evaluate your behavior.
I find it very hard to believe that you are just sauntering around, minding your very own business and then BAM! you became robbed, harassed, threatened ect..
Someone's never heard of civil forfeiture.
Civil forfeiture is a lawful process that ONLY occurs in a VERY limited number of cases, predominantly drug cases involving large amounts of trafficking where we have decided that it would not be just to allow the lawbreaker to keep the spoils of his crimes. And yes, I would like to see it used more against white collar high level scumbags. But please stop acting like average citizens are waking up and finding the mean old government taking everything they own, because that is quite simply not the case.
I was pulled over for "driving too close to the white line" and had $500 removed from my glovebox because "no one carries that much cash."
I was on my way to pay my rent.
I was told that people that use cash are involved in the drug trade. I got a lawyer and was able to prove that I legitimately earned the money, but haha, civil forfeiture.
It's being used as an excuse for the police to rob people.
originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: deadeyedick
originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Justaposter
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
You don't care that two innocent people were killed?
No. No I don't. They were cops, I place them in the same ranks as British soldiers in the 1700s and trollocs from the Wheel of Time.
wow
You can wow all you want. If that's your reaction then you haven't been paying attention.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been out-right robbed, harassed, threatened, and bullied by the gang members that we call police officers.
If this is the case, perhaps you should evaluate your behavior.
I find it very hard to believe that you are just sauntering around, minding your very own business and then BAM! you became robbed, harassed, threatened ect..
Someone's never heard of civil forfeiture.
Civil forfeiture is a lawful process that ONLY occurs in a VERY limited number of cases, predominantly drug cases involving large amounts of trafficking where we have decided that it would not be just to allow the lawbreaker to keep the spoils of his crimes. And yes, I would like to see it used more against white collar high level scumbags. But please stop acting like average citizens are waking up and finding the mean old government taking everything they own, because that is quite simply not the case.
I see you are still confused about truth. It happens all the time all over the U.S.
You are down playing a very serious problem.
The truth is that it is completly for a cop to take your money and then force you to prove him wrong in a court system that will cost more than what you were robbed of.
Like all the other laws it origionally served a valid purpose but not is being abused to buy equipment to herd more effectivly.
Sorry, but no. Civil forfeiture is not a very frequently used legal action and, again, it is only used in certain large cases involving large amounts of money gained by criminal enterprise. These are facts. Keep waving your hands about wildly though and maybe eventually I'll buy it...
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: diggindirt
I have never written a seat belt ticket and never will!
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: jaffo
Ya I guess he can hire a lawyer at 300 p hour, there would be a retainer, consultation, court time..etc.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: deadeyedick
originally posted by: jaffo
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Justaposter
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
You don't care that two innocent people were killed?
No. No I don't. They were cops, I place them in the same ranks as British soldiers in the 1700s and trollocs from the Wheel of Time.
wow
You can wow all you want. If that's your reaction then you haven't been paying attention.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been out-right robbed, harassed, threatened, and bullied by the gang members that we call police officers.
If this is the case, perhaps you should evaluate your behavior.
I find it very hard to believe that you are just sauntering around, minding your very own business and then BAM! you became robbed, harassed, threatened ect..
Someone's never heard of civil forfeiture.
Civil forfeiture is a lawful process that ONLY occurs in a VERY limited number of cases, predominantly drug cases involving large amounts of trafficking where we have decided that it would not be just to allow the lawbreaker to keep the spoils of his crimes. And yes, I would like to see it used more against white collar high level scumbags. But please stop acting like average citizens are waking up and finding the mean old government taking everything they own, because that is quite simply not the case.
I see you are still confused about truth. It happens all the time all over the U.S.
You are down playing a very serious problem.
The truth is that it is completly for a cop to take your money and then force you to prove him wrong in a court system that will cost more than what you were robbed of.
Like all the other laws it origionally served a valid purpose but not is being abused to buy equipment to herd more effectivly.
Sorry, but no. Civil forfeiture is not a very frequently used legal action and, again, it is only used in certain large cases involving large amounts of money gained by criminal enterprise. These are facts. Keep waving your hands about wildly though and maybe eventually I'll buy it...
you are wrong i hope not lying. It rolls in about 5 billion a yr.
A town local to me was featured on stewarts cc show where 142 cases had happened in less than a year
The crazy part is the town has about 142 residents
The trick is too take small amounts that will be less that a lawyers fee
Very few people will waste their time in court over small amounts.
en.wikipedia.org...
interesting wiki on the subject
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: jaffo
Actually to me it sounds like you just backed away from your claim of how you would love to have a case like that but i get it you do not want to travel and you have no means to bring attention to that certain area.
Either way here is the vidioes that are fed to the public and is largely responsible for the way people see this stuff. Did you take a look at that wiki i linked? It proves your thought wrong that only drugs have to be involved. The police simply just go by the thought that all cash will be used to buy drugs then it is up to the public to prove they were not buying drugs.
cc john stewart
eta let's talk more about this statment that you will bet anything cause i am in the market for some things.