6 Dead, 1 Wounded and Gunman on the Loose in Montgomery County Shooting Spree

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A manhunt is underway for a former Marine reservist who prosecutors say went on a shooting spree early Monday killing six family members, including his ex-wife, and wounding a teen in three towns across Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
Bradley William Stone, 35 of Pennsburg, is considered armed and dangerous. Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman said police are actively searching for him and residents of one town are being asked to lock themselves indoors.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com...

The suspect killed his ex-wife Nicole Stone, her mother, her grandmother, her sister, her sister's husband and 14-year old daughter.

Mr Stone was described as having red hair and wearing military fatigues. He reportedly uses a cane or a walking stick.

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He's currently holed up in a house, he had went to 3 different houses to murder his victims.

a reply to: Lysergic

Wow....
This guy really didnt like his exes family or her for that matter.
Hope this guy gets stopped before more lose their lifes.
Unpopular I know but I would like to see him get caught alive so he can speak and we can learn from him.

Question: Was the gun in question used for it's intended purpose?

If yes, why do we have so many instruments of death in this country?

originally posted by: AgentShillington
Question: Was the gun in question used for it's intended purpose?

If yes, why do we have so many instruments of death in this country?

The answer is no. There are two broad categories of 'intended purpose' for civilian firearms. One is for traditional sporting purposes such as hunting. The second is for lawful self-defense. This was neither.

originally posted by: vor78

originally posted by: AgentShillington
Question: Was the gun in question used for it's intended purpose?

If yes, why do we have so many instruments of death in this country?

The answer is no. There are two broad categories of 'intended purpose' for civilian firearms. One is for traditional sporting purposes such as hunting. The second is for lawful self-defense. This was neither.

Guns are made to kill.

Either you are killing animals for "sport" or you are killing humans for "self defense".

Wearing his fatigues? That's convenient and should make it easier to spot him. I can't wait to hear what this guy has to say, if he's caught alive. Damn guns...there would be no murders or crimes, and we could finally see world peace if they all just disappeared. Lol I love it when anti gunners come to threads like this and immediately blame the weapon and not the person. And I don't know why I feel the need to respond to any of it. Wasting time just like they are, because guns aren't going anywhere in America. I wouldn't be surprised if he has been taking anti depressants or benzos which can cause extreme paranoia and anxiety when coming off of them.

a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

I feel for the family in this matter, regardless of whether he thinks they deserved it or not. However, I sure hope we don't have another case of.............

Oh my! They better find out what type of weapon he used, make and model, so they can label it an "assault weapon" and sue the manufacturer for monetary damages to the family while trying to ban it from production or use by the law abiding public.

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: vor78

originally posted by: AgentShillington
Question: Was the gun in question used for it's intended purpose?

If yes, why do we have so many instruments of death in this country?

The answer is no. There are two broad categories of 'intended purpose' for civilian firearms. One is for traditional sporting purposes such as hunting. The second is for lawful self-defense. This was neither.

Guns are made to kill.

Either you are killing animals for "sport" or you are killing humans for "self defense".

Nice absolutes.....

I kill my animals to eat........

Do you ever get tired of coming into threads just to stir the pot

a reply to: AgentShillington

That's true to a certain extent, but note that not all sporting purposes involve hunting. Regardless, the point remains, the 'intended purpose' of a firearm sold on the civilian market does not involve criminal intent and misuse.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

The same applies to a gun there kiddo. It is already illegal to use it for any purpose that is not lawful...period.

Next....

originally posted by: vor78
a reply to: AgentShillington

That's true to a certain extent, but note that not all sporting purposes involve hunting. Regardless, the point remains, the 'intended purpose' of a firearm sold on the civilian market does not criminal intent and misuse.

Guns don't commit crimes, people commit crimes with guns by using guns in the way they were intended. To kill.

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

Its essentially the same thing. The law applies terms and conditions to proper, legal usage of both. Once you violate those, you could certainly be said to be violating their intended purposes and usage.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

The same applies to a gun there kiddo. It is already illegal to use it for any purpose that is not lawful...period.

Next....

It is legal to kill with a gun. If it weren't legal to kill with a gun, then there would be no reason to have them, as they wouldn't be useful for much of anything else.

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

The same applies to a gun there kiddo. It is already illegal to use it for any purpose that is not lawful...period.

Next....

It is legal to kill with a gun. If it weren't legal to kill with a gun, then there would be no reason to have them, as they wouldn't be useful for much of anything else.

It is legal to kill with Rat poison too....if the target is a rodent (with no restrictions on when, where, or even why).
Just like it is legal to kill with a gun if the target is an animal (and you have a license to possess that gun, and a legal right to hunt that species, at that time of year, in that particular place, at the proper time of day).

Next.........

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

The same applies to a gun there kiddo. It is already illegal to use it for any purpose that is not lawful...period.

Next....

It is legal to kill with a gun. If it weren't legal to kill with a gun, then there would be no reason to have them, as they wouldn't be useful for much of anything else.

It is legal to kill with Rat poison too....if the target is a rodent (with no restrictions on when, where, or even why).
Just like it is legal to kill with a gun if the target is an animal (and you have a license to possess that gun, and a legal right to hunt that species, at that time of year, in that particular place, at the proper time of day).

Next.........

You are getting confusing, and I am having a hard time seeing where you are going.

Guns are designed to kill, this gun was used to kill.

The end.

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: AgentShillington

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: armed10peasant
a reply to: AgentShillington

Made to kill? Yes, if you want to look at it that way, because every gun has the potential to be lethal.

Made to commit crimes? No.

Rat poison is also "made to kill" and only that.....but, having that one purpose is still legal last I checked. And, it is available to anyone without a background check ,and can (and has) been used to poison many people (including what would today be labeled mass murder).

It is not legal to use rat poison for anything other than what it is labeled for, so your insistence on using rat poison as an analog to guns isn't really appropriate.

The same applies to a gun there kiddo. It is already illegal to use it for any purpose that is not lawful...period.

Next....

It is legal to kill with a gun. If it weren't legal to kill with a gun, then there would be no reason to have them, as they wouldn't be useful for much of anything else.

It is legal to kill with Rat poison too....if the target is a rodent (with no restrictions on when, where, or even why).
Just like it is legal to kill with a gun if the target is an animal (and you have a license to possess that gun, and a legal right to hunt that species, at that time of year, in that particular place, at the proper time of day).

Next.........

You are getting confusing, and I am having a hard time seeing where you are going.

Guns are designed to kill, this gun was used to kill.

The end.

You are getting confusing, and I am having a hard time seeing where you are going.

Rat Poison is designed to kill, it has been used to kill.

The end.

Sound familiar????

Have the apprehended him? What is the latest?

EDIT on scanner it seems like they are close