The Supreme Court Says Unanimously Your Boss Can Make You Work For Free

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dont worry soon the government will rule jobs dont have to pay you period. companies will be able to pick your SS# out of a hat and you will be forced to work for free

originally posted by: strangenessvideo
dont worry soon the government will rule jobs dont have to pay you period. companies will be able to pick your SS# out of a hat and you will be forced to work for free

Awesome knee-jerk reaction. Do you think employers should pay you to walk to and from your car before and after you clock in/out?

Oh My...looks like some lively debate has occurred since I was last able to check into this Thread...TY Heff for keeping things friendly !!

I think for those of you making the comparison, that these worker's are just being unreasonable because, these checkpoints are the same thing as "driving to work", entering and exiting your car", "taking an elevator"....etc. are missing this point I think......They are already doing those things just like everyone else and not getting paid....well unless your an Amazon executive....

Here's what the L.A. Times had to say, it seems in "theory" these checkpoints should only take a few minutes, which is what is being claimed by Amazon and Integrity, the security company being used. The employees are claiming that because of lack of staffing these checkpoints take much longer.

Of course, Integrity could have made this a moot point if it had hired enough screeners to handle the end-of-shift traffic in a reasonable amount of time. Screening itself takes just a minute or two, but the delays were caused by the employer's refusal to properly staff the screening kiosks, saving itself money while taking up to 25 minutes a day of its workers' time.

www.latimes.com...

The article also claims that only the warehouse workers are subjected to these checkpoints, not the secretaries, managers or other Amazon employees. I don't know how this particular warehouse works, but I know from my experience working for a big retail co. that we did have access to the warehouse and from time to time had to go pick up samples, special orders for store openings, etc. , the point is other people besides the warehouse workers have an opportunity to steal if they are dishonest.

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
Oh My...looks like some lively debate has occurred since I was last able to check into this Thread...TY Heff for keeping things friendly !!

It really was not that bad, it was mostly one person disparaging Phage and Phage being defended.

I think for those of you making the comparison, that these worker's are just being unreasonable because, these checkpoints are the same thing as "driving to work", entering and exiting your car", "taking an elevator"....etc. are missing this point I think......They are already doing those things just like everyone else and not getting paid....well unless your an Amazon executive....

And this is just part of that. I work on the first floor and my walk to clock in is 1 minute. People working on the 5th floor of my building have to spend probably 4 minutes. Different people have different times walking to and from the time clock. As long as it's reasonable, and 90 seconds is less than the 4 minutes extra my coworkers deal with, then it's not an issue.

Here's what the L.A. Times had to say, it seems in "theory" these checkpoints should only take a few minutes, which is what is being claimed by Amazon and Integrity, the security company being used. The employees are claiming that because of lack of staffing these checkpoints take much longer.

Their claims were not able to be substantiated as far as I am aware.

Of course, Integrity could have made this a moot point if it had hired enough screeners to handle the end-of-shift traffic in a reasonable amount of time. Screening itself takes just a minute or two, but the delays were caused by the employer's refusal to properly staff the screening kiosks, saving itself money while taking up to 25 minutes a day of its workers' time.

www.latimes.com...
That's an editorial opinion piece, not actual news.

The article also claims that only the warehouse workers are subjected to these checkpoints, not the secretaries, managers or other Amazon employees. I don't know how this particular warehouse works, but I know from my experience working for a big retail co. that we did have access to the warehouse and from time to time had to go pick up samples, special orders for store openings, etc. , the point is other people besides the warehouse workers have an opportunity to steal if they are dishonest.

Their opportunities are limited, having worked LP I would not put nearly as much effort into them either.

Automation will be putting a lot of people out of work.

The labor for income game is slowly coming to an end.

originally posted by: Cyruay
Automation will be putting a lot of people out of work.

The labor for income game is slowly coming to an end.

Economies will have to change. Problem being certain job types will be phased out first creating havoc.

I see this specific case as just one of many problems that we can expect to see as Corporate Interests continue to become "The Law of The Land"......The TPP being passed should terrify us all. I'm not even sure if the SCOTUS will have the ability to rule on these types of issues if the TPP was to pass ? There won't even be the "illusion" anymore that people can use the Judicial System to force Corporations to have some accountability if people are harmed due to their business practices.

a reply to: MountainLaurel

This is nothing new. This has been the law of the land for 70+ years. It's not even contentious which is why it was unanimous. When you are not working you do not get paid.

And still the issue wouldn't exist if they had a UNION !! But UNION's are EVIL remember!!!!

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I understand your points, and yes the article I used was an editorial piece. I guess it comes down to who you believe....I tend to believe the employees because I think as many people have pointed out that most reasonable people would not object if the waits for screening weren't so excessive.

Imagine the frustration you feel in the market when the lines are long and they don't have enough checkout stands open....and even that rarely runs more then 10 min. No wonder these folks are annoyed......heck I can be in and out of the market in 25 min. most of the time !

originally posted by: Cyruay
Automation will be putting a lot of people out of work.

The labor for income game is slowly coming to an end.

I think people will always be needed, but perhaps not as many will be needed to do things that can or will become automated.

a reply to: MountainLaurel

I think there is an obligation on the employer's part to ensure the wait is not excessive. The employees would have been better off not suing for blanket pay, but rather being paid only when wait times are excessive.

originally posted by: MountainLaurel

originally posted by: Cyruay
Automation will be putting a lot of people out of work.

The labor for income game is slowly coming to an end.

I think people will always be needed, but perhaps not as many will be needed to do things that can or will become automated.

Trust me, people will not be needed, technology will replace every single job, even prostitution.