New Series on SCI channel (US): Biblical Conspiracies

Did you all see the ads for this new show? I think it might be pretty worthwhile.

Special 'Biblical Conspiracies' to Air Sunday, December 14 & Monday, December 15 on Science Channel

a four-part special event BIBLICAL CONSPIRACIES. The greatest archeological finds and some of the most beloved icons of the Judeo-Christian religions are examined and age-old secrets explored. Could two twisted nails found in the tomb of the man who sent Jesus to the cross be the very same from the True Cross? Might a recently deciphered papyrus fragments from the 2nd century reveal that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married? And could a forgotten sculpture made by Michelangelo bring to light strange and long-buried religious practices from the time of Christ? With the aid of cutting edge technology, we return to the crumbling tombs, palaces and ruins of the Holy Land, in search of ancient conspiracies hidden away for two thousand years and Science Channel will take us through all the ground-breaking mysteries behind the myths.

I know I will for SURE be watching this one. Been reading a lot more about this topic over the last few months - even more than I was before. What are your thoughts, team?

What's your favorite subject or topic about Biblical conspiracies? I'm pretty well convinced that the 'excluded' Gospels found in Egypt and Israel are just as important as the big four. Perhaps even MORE SO, because they were so *gasp* outrageous *really?* that they had to be destroyed. Whatever....

What are your thoughts? What would you like to learn on this series; do you think it will help us out?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Did you all see the ads for this new show? I think it might be pretty worthwhile.

Special 'Biblical Conspiracies' to Air Sunday, December 14 & Monday, December 15 on Science Channel

a four-part special event BIBLICAL CONSPIRACIES. The greatest archeological finds and some of the most beloved icons of the Judeo-Christian religions are examined and age-old secrets explored. Could two twisted nails found in the tomb of the man who sent Jesus to the cross be the very same from the True Cross? Might a recently deciphered papyrus fragments from the 2nd century reveal that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married? And could a forgotten sculpture made by Michelangelo bring to light strange and long-buried religious practices from the time of Christ? With the aid of cutting edge technology, we return to the crumbling tombs, palaces and ruins of the Holy Land, in search of ancient conspiracies hidden away for two thousand years and Science Channel will take us through all the ground-breaking mysteries behind the myths.

I know I will for SURE be watching this one. Been reading a lot more about this topic over the last few months - even more than I was before. What are your thoughts, team?

You can bet they'll avoid the fundamental questions such as the existence of God and Jesus and assume those have been answered. To me this is like arguing over the color of Santa's boots without first proving that Santa exists.

a reply to: Tangerine

Yep! To me, too. But at least Discovery network has the courage to air it anyway. The dialogue is growing globally, for sure.

The more doubt that can be cast onto the 'veracity' of the Bible (and the people who compiled it), the better for promoting secularism, tolerance, and discussion. Do we really need religion anymore?

I saw this picture the other day, and it made me think of this very subject.


You know what I mean???

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I know you probably didn't mean this, but your statement reads like this to me,

"The more we pee on someone else's religion, the more tolerance we can have!"

You're entitled to your opinions, but you're not tolerant if you are gleeful about denigrating someone else's.

I always liked to consider the so called gospels where Jesus married Mary M. as fan-fiction.

On a sad note, if early Christians were ok with the idea that Jesus married a demon possessed prostitute, what does it say about the ones who get freaked out when someone with a tat shows up at their church?

The Bible on the Science Channel?

Maybe they are going to show us some peer reviewed science behind the Bible and some irrefutable factual evidence which is impossible to deny or disprove.

Who knows lets wait and see what they say.

Perhaps science is moving in the direction of the divine.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Hmmmmm I wonder what would the Vatican say? After the Da Vinci Code Fiasco, if this documentary shows something the Vatican don't want us to know, this might open a can of worms

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


I wonder if they will air an episode where the Bible is compared to be Rule Book for the role playing Religion Game that came way before Dungeons-&-Dragons...

same sort of total immersion role playing reality

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Tangerine

Yep! To me, too. But at least Discovery network has the courage to air it anyway. The dialogue is growing globally, for sure.

The more doubt that can be cast onto the 'veracity' of the Bible (and the people who compiled it), the better for promoting secularism, tolerance, and discussion. Do we really need religion anymore?

I saw this picture the other day, and it made me think of this very subject.

You know what I mean???

I doubt that this will be a remotely serious look at the Bible. It will be about crap like whether two nails are from the cross when they should be exposing the fact that there's not an iota of evidence proving the crucifixion ever happened.

Who knows it could be about how they cloned Jesus and he's living on the moon, and he is very dissapointed with our society.

Its supposed to be conspiricy right?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

This could be interesting. I don't watch much TV, but I'll watch this (and hope I'm not disappointed). Thank you for posting!

I would love to see them look at the migration of the Lost Tribes of Israel, and especially in terms of their migration to Scotland and England.... and after that, a look at the connection between the legend of the boat without oars which took Joseph of Arimathea and the Marys to France and England, with the "first church above ground" at Glastonbury.... which would also include the legends of the search for the Holy Grail.

Several authors have equated the Holy Grail with the blood of Christ, and suggested it refers to a child of Christ carried by Mary Magdalene... maybe. But it could also refer to Jesus' mother Mary, who we know carried the blood of Christ, and the search for her by Paul and others after the crucifixion. I can understand a need to hide Mary, as others might fear that she could produce another Christ child.

Again, thank you.

It is all part of the plan to denounce Christianity and continue with pushing the Muslim agenda/culture....conspiracy at it's best!

/sarcasm

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

They've been showing aliens and bigfoot on the history channel too. Go figure.

a reply to: Tangerine

Of course they'll avoid fundamental questions like the existence of jesus and god, those aren't questions that be empirically answered. They're discussing the BIBLE, it looks like. The book. The morals that can be derived from it, and the spiritual questions that someone may find answers to within it are irrelevant when discussing the text itself, and the conspiracies surrounding it.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
The Bible on the Science Channel?

Maybe they are going to show us some peer reviewed science behind the Bible and some irrefutable factual evidence which is impossible to deny or disprove.

I doubt that it will be anything that substantiates your beliefs if that is what you are hoping for.

Who knows lets wait and see what they say.

Perhaps science is moving in the direction of the divine.

I doubt it. Actually, looking at stuff like Ancient Aliens, I doubt it will even be peer reviewed stuff. Probably just a lot of dubious claims.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep. Just watched the preview. It's JUST LIKE Ancient Aliens. Could this be the tomb? Could these be nails? If these are nails, could they be THE nails? Is that wood in the nail? Could that be THE WOOD?????

Sorry BuzzyWigs, this show looks like a loser!

www.sciencechannel.com...

a reply to: windword

Figures. I hate shows that just paint a singular narrative. The reason I joined ATS was because I got fed up of being force fed the answer "aliens" while watching ancient aliens and never given any other options or get exposed to the counterarguments.

Of course, this illustrates why video is a terrible source to use to verify your claims.

a reply to: sdubya

I know you probably didn't mean this, but your statement reads like this to me,

"The more we pee on someone else's religion, the more tolerance we can have!"

If your religion is hurting people, causing trouble, and rejecting certain people, then it needs to be peed on.

Are you not interested to know if you've been misled all these years? If you've been fed a bunch of made-up, scary bed-time stories - or distorted campfire stories - that make you feel like crap about yourself?

Conservative Christians can be 'hurt' all they want - But the Bible thumpers have their hands in too many pots. Just today I was listening to a discussion on NPR about how conservatives are both REFUSING to allow abortions, and also CUTTING funding for women's and children's health care.

Conservative Christians care so much about 'people' and their 'fellow man'? They want women to have babies no matter how those babies were conceived, or how dangerous it might be, or how violent the impregnation. But then their elected legislators are cutting off funding for HAVING those babies, for PRENATAL care, etc. Take Missouri, for example. Gov Jay Nixon vetoed a '72-hour wait' for any abortions - and one has to think of the danger to the mother's health - or the trauma she has endured. GOOD FOR HIM! But his legislature overturned the veto.

WHY? Because the Bible. Do you honestly think that women are too stupid and flippant to think LONG AND HARD about what to do? Honestly? You have no idea what you are asking of them. I do. Personally. I DO.

On the radio, they gave this exampl:- if a woman is raped, she first has to wait until she knows (a month later) if she is pregnant. Then she has to THINK about what to do. And all that takes time. And so she makes the decision, and follows through, and now she has to wait ANOTHER 72 hours before getting the treatment she has decided is best? SHE has decided. SHE has thought it through. Yeah, but it's so Christian to prolong her agony - just in case she was mentally deficient? She's going to 'change her mind' while she's waiting that extra 72 hours? Are you going to send her paperwork telling her YOU will pay for the prenatal care, the birth, her health and the baby's health?

No - you're going to tell her 'you're on your own.'

It's that same old 'women are crap and too stupid to make their own decisions so they should just shut up' mentality. And don't toss them the crumbs they need to survive this ordeal - because they aren't worthy 'so much as to gather up those crumbs.'

RAMPANT in the Bible.

You don't think that's a 'conspiracy' to keep women subjugated?


Fine = You tell ME - how does that make sense, and WHY are they doing that?

(My guess is - 'fear of hell', and 'my preacher said so', and 'it's in the Bible that women should shut up, sit down, and do what they are told. We want the babies.' Right??)

Yeah, well, then you SUPPORT those women and babies and all the health and education issues you insist that they have! Don't tell them 'you must have the baby' and then 'but we are going to not support you even though we are forcing you.'

And those SAME PEOPLE want to have 'opt-in only' Sex Ed in schools. Keep 'em ignorant, scared, and vulnerable.

RIDICULOUS!!
So - am I PEEING on it? Yep! You bet.
It's a bunch of man-made rules that reduce human beings to self-loathing nothings. It's a load of crap.

THAT is what I meant. Take it however you want. I don't care, and I won't shut up about it until it stops.

a reply to: sdubya

Jesus married a demon possessed prostitute

Wow.
ExCUSE me? A 'demon-possessed prostitute'?

Misogyny. Rampant in the Bible.

a reply to: Tangerine

Exactly. It's just another 'sensationalist' audience grabber.