Will Obama punish the torturers? HELL NO!

Obama has the intestinal fortitude of a coward.

People give him praise for sitting in a warm comfortable room and ordering the killing of Bin Laden.
Oh what a valiant thing to do!

It was the democratic congress that passed the ACA
And he just took the credit the congress paid for it in being voted out not this moral coward.

Did he prosecute one of the thieving banksters?
Not a one.

Did he prosecute any of the already known torturers?
NO!

He has done NOTHING Courageous. And I'll bet he won't do a damn thing to these torturers who an outgoing senator and UN expert asks him to do... the right thing: indict these savages: see below.

UN Expert Calls For Prosecution Over U.S. Torture

GENEVA (AP) — All senior U.S. officials and CIA agents who authorized or carried out torture like waterboarding as part of former President George W. Bush's national security policy must be prosecuted, top U.N. officials said Wednesday. It's not clear, however, how human rights officials think these prosecutions will take place, since the Justice Department has declined to prosecute and the U.S. is not a member of the International Criminal Court. Zeid Raad al-Hussein, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said it's "crystal clear" under international law that the United States, which ratified the U.N. Convention Against Torture in 1994, now has an obligation to ensure accountability.

Mark Udall Says The CIA Is Still Lying

At least this senator, who of course has more courage since he is leaving the senate is telling some truth now.

The CIA is still lying about its post-9/11 torture program, even in the face of a devastating Senate report, Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) said Wednesday. In a dramatic floor speech during his final month in the Senate, Udall said the CIA's lies have been aided and abetted by President Barack Obama's White House and called on the president to "purge" his administration of CIA officials who were involved in the interrogation program detailed in the report. “It’s bad enough to not prosecute these officials, but to reward and promote them is incomprehensible,” Udall said. “The president needs to purge his administration.”

Obama has had a disgraceful administration, unlike some presidents who have taken chances often such as JFK, Lyndon Johnson with civil rights, even Richard Nixon with going to China
Barack Obama has done NOTHING courageous.

In times like this IT'S ONLY THE PRESIDENT WHO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE...

In this case he will find some lame reason for doing what he usually does
What is most expedient.
NOTHING!

Well, I hate to break it to you, but this sort of thing is approved on a case by case basis by the NSC, which is chaired by the President. And every president since Truman has ok'd their share of interrogations. Not excluding JFK and Johnson.

IMHO,

Business as Usual.

Bread and Circuses.


Get the populace emotionally up in arms over one topic, while you're doing something else behind their backs.

SSDD.


- NF

a reply to: Willtell

Of course he won't. Because then the masses will learn that the Bush admin didn't start this, Clinton did. And since Hillary wants to take over the office, we can't have a silly little thing like Bill starting extraordinary rendition get in the way of that.

I'm surprised you're surprised.

a reply to: Willtell

The only things I have ever witnessed Obama punishing, are people who did a good thing, or did what was right.

The Obama way is to send in a Hellfire missile drone strike on the entire family. The dead don't need to be interviewed with enhanced methods, they're all dead. Tough crap about the innocent women and children in the zone.

That's the Obama interrogation method. Kill 'em all.

Waterboarding is for pussies.

originally posted by: Willtell
Obama has the intestinal fortitude of a coward.

People give him praise for sitting in a warm comfortable room and ordering the killing of Bin Laden.
Oh what a valiant thing to do!

It was the democratic congress that passed the ACA
And he just took the credit the congress paid for it in being voted out not this moral coward.

Did he prosecute one of the thieving banksters?
Not a one.

I highly doubt you'll get much of a rise from anyone except for sympathizers. The people detained were involved in heinous crimes against other humans so if they were tortured, most wI'll turn a blind eye.

If someone killed anyone in my family, I would personally stop at nothing to make sure I felt they got what they deserved.

I don't really expect anything less if I did the same.

I am pretty much a peaceful person and do not incite violence on any level. If it comes to my door then I will use ever force in my ability to destroy you and anyone associated with you.

a reply to: Willtell

He's a puppet. Not running the show.

Make him your demon if you like. The problem is far beyond his pay grade.

While you are venting, explain how your preferred POTUS would handle the situation differently.

I can't wait to see the report of what has been done torture wise during the Obama administration. The difference will be the victims will be US citizens,soldiers,whistle blowers, and ,law enforcement personnel.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Willtell

He's a puppet. Not running the show.

Make him your demon if you like. The problem is far beyond his pay grade.

You're right about that one!

" There's the Government and then there's THE GOVERNMENT, and I wasn't in charge of that."- Bill Clinton

Dick Cheney - Bush was too stupid to understand any of this bless him, Cheney helped set up Blackwater to get round rules of engagement, he made the CIA so powerful they could do this kind of thing and he has become very rich out of it.

Yes the buck probably stops with the President, but I recon you can only prosecute Bush for being mentally absent at the post, but Cheney should be investigated to the full.

a reply to: TheCrowMan

I disagree.


I think Bush is a Genius for convincing billions of people he was a fool...
He was actually a Jester, he knew how to perfect the role of the village idiot.


And his MBA made him the perfect man to run the U.S like a business.


His grades at Yale weren't too shabby either.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: TheCrowMan

I disagree.


I think Bush is a Genius for convincing billions of people he was a fool...
He was actually a Jester, he knew how to perfect the role of the village idiot.


And his MBA made him the perfect man to run the U.S like a business.


His grades at Yale weren't too shabby either.

This may very well be the first, and only, comment I will certainly give you serious props for.

Bravo!



And I understand you are talking about W, not Sr.

W definitely learned from Sr.'s mistakes.

Why condemn CIA torture tactics?

Maybe not the best way to get intel, but it is a powerful deterrent to any would be terrorists. Granted, those who are actually tortured would have to be eliminated, to prevent any retaliatory acts.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I know some stuff
Not much, but some.




Edit: Yeah, W.
I actually liked him, aside from his genocide.


That's to say I'd have voted for him prior to Iraq/Afghanistan...

Sh*t if he'd gone after Saudi Arabia he'd be a legend in my books.

originally posted by: GodEmperor
Why condemn CIA torture tactics?

Maybe not the best way to get intel, but it is a powerful deterrent to any would be terrorists. Granted, those who are actually tortured would have to be eliminated, to prevent any retaliatory acts.

I doubt it deterred very many. I think most would grab on to it as propaganda against us. Just as if they all got three hots and a cot. Doesn't really matter which way you go. They want to hate us, so they will.

Jihad, virgins, everlasting paradise weighed against being uncomfortable for a while, even intensely uncomfortable. In their mind, it's an easy choice.

People who support torture I wonder do they consider that the enemy will do the same to the US soldiers.

Even these sadistic CIA grunts are making themselves vulnerable

Same tools with a different name, its a scandal because the ones in power let it out, while the other hand keeps on pulling on that rope.

originally posted by: Willtell
People who support torture I wonder do they consider that the enemy will do the same to the US soldiers.

Even these sadistic CIA grunts are making themselves vulnerable

Pretty sure it is a common knowledge among them that, if captured, you will be tortured. May not be the same methods as the US, but it will happen.

I can't recall any POW from any war detainment writing a book about it being golf courses and bone-in ribeye steak every day.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but from MSM you would think the US is deplorable compared to others. Well, I can say from talking to first hand survivors of different wars that the torture methods the US uses are quite tame compared to most.

Nope, no one will be punished for this... nor will it stop.