The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

You know the problem with that?
1) It's making broadbrush generalized judgments of large swaths of humanity.
2) It's the classic BS of women being only victims that could not possibly do anything wrong or bad without good reason.
Which is sexist at it's basis.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

Women are feeling neglected, used, and unappreciated by men. We treat them like they are tools for pleasure, like a pet dog. When we want attention we call it, we pay attention to it. But when we want to do things for ourselves we neglect them and we push them away. We're cowards, we aren't men.

It could be true and likely is to some degree. But not to the degree feminists or you like to paint. I mean even today, I went Christmas shopping, guess how many women looked like they were enjoying themselves a whole lot and all of them baring some who were just there with there friends, but almost all had a guy in tow.

So ya, I do not think its as rampant thing as you paint it out, this whole females felling used, neglected and unappreciated by men. I mean no doupt there are some, but lets just say I do not thing most of them are riling themself over this stuff, in fact there are likely more who are pissed and prissy because they did not get something they wanted and the guy in her life was not able to read her mind and so now she is digging for all shes worth at things to make him cave in.

I mean what the hell do you want? Its not hard to do you know. If that is the stem of your problems not getting attention, well that's not a real issue. And if you want something ask or that means you dont want anything. Its simple really, not rocket science here.

Men have become slaves to their pride, we have become like little boys afraid to express real feelings with reason. What really makes a man? What really makes a man is our ability to be noble, to be gentlemen, to be the protectors of wisdom and strength.

Nah dude thats not what really makes a man, thats what makes a good premise to a sappy movie. I think being born with a penis in most cases your kind of stuck in that role. All that other stuff is a hit or miss, and even if its a hit in time it will get old. Besides who's afraid to express there felling, I have been telling people for a long time there crazy, none of them believe though. So you know, whatever.

But now look at us, we've become so self centered that we can't even recognize how far we have fallen as a species, we can't even stop arguing about each others opinions enough to see it. We've failed ourselves and we're too damn ignorant to change.

Oh theres a whole lot of bad blood out there. A hell of a whole lot, some of it is even justified.

And well what do you espect, its bound to keep going on and on. I mean you even have women in universities learning about how bad they have it and how men are trying to take over there lifes. I mean its obvious what is going on. And its obvious why they even pander to women or collage kids, its not because this will tear the fabric of males and females apart. Lets face it, even if some of them were bonkers there is some dude out there who will put up with it.

No why they pander that # in universities is because it is almost an impossibility that even with all the # they do that most of them will be able find there special someone, I mean we only got possible millions and millions of evolution tying the sexes together, it still would take a whole lot more then that to break it all down. But seeing that it will be almost impossible for them to not find a guy, well then and pass this thing on, and because they knew they would put up with it if it came from the fairer sex. So really even if this is some plot its likely just stage one, and females are just well you know, they will believe anybody who is wearing a suite or has a bit of an authority. Females were always more easy to subvert then males in the blame game.

Its like a virus, when I first joined this site I never even knew anybody believed that silly #. But look at it, four years latter and we got maninist and there building groups, and so on it would go, everytime somebody has a scratch its going to be blamed on somebody, right now its men, give it some time and the torch will pass and you will see maninists doing the same, and from there it will only expand.

So ya! I think the best thing to do is like any virus that invades the body, well sometimes turning up the body heat will kill it, # even drinking alcohol while you have a cold will likely kill the common cold, though it would give you a headache come morning and puking and all that stuff.

It's because we lack roll models and we're not pushing ourselves to become new ones. All it takes is an apology whether to someone else or yourself but people are too full of bitterness to see it.

Oh ya plenty of bitterness to go around, especially from females. Now I got a plan, its simple, just annoy the hell out of them or ignore them till they disappear, especially on the internet. Or we can do this, just to find out who are all these women and which are nutty, why dont we make it mandatory for females on this site to have a tag saying there females. You know, so we know who to watch and avoid. Or maybe we can give them a little yellow star bellow there name so that way we know who were responding to before we respond. I mean its annoying arguing with them and all the games they play.

Or better yet, how about this, maybe ATS since they dont want to reinstall the ignore feature. Maybe they could start a game, or even make thread, the premise of is some silly game, and make it some really iffy thing and melodramatic, something that would tug on females senses, or we can do what the tobacco companies did and play on there sense of oh if men do it so must you. Anyways the game is not important, but something goofy and easy to win, and lets say what they would win a permanent hello kitty sticker bellow there name or avatar.

Something like this right.

They will totally go for it, it could be the thing to do, all the cool people have one, and in a few months we could have almost every female on this site with a tiny and super cute hello kitty gif pasted somewhere by the name or under the avatar. Think about it, then they would not have anywhere to hide, we would be able to see approximately I would say at the very least 70% of all the females on this site, though some dudes would also chose to get that hello kitty thing pasted, its pretty cute after all, but we can work out that latter. The point being we would know who all the trouble makers are and who to avoid.

I mean I have been informed that its much more efficient and better if you just ignore them, and if you put enough effort and time into it, it would be like they do not exist. But really who wants to put that much effort into that, this would be a much easier way to go about it. And if that does not work, well there is always something else, and if that does not work, well there is always another site. It would be super efficient and a lot less work right.

Or I could a just a be messing with you all. Anyways this whole thing has got to go, its so overrated, and I even said before not even these dudes who are dropping out of the whatever you know this whole sexodus thing. Well even they dont have that much a problem, more problems then a lot of females but still not something that is not surmountable. So really, this whole thing is a mute point, just more drama I think. Or maybe not, who know eh? We shall see.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
You know why women are becoming feminist? You really want the truth? It's going to hurt I promise you.

Women are feeling neglected, used, and unappreciated by men. We treat them like they are tools for pleasure, like a pet dog. When we want attention we call it, we pay attention to it. But when we want to do things for ourselves we neglect them and we push them away. We're cowards, we aren't men. We hide our pains and we hide our feelings, we even go as far as to condemn other men as fags and homosexuals for not hiding behind a false sense of pride that grows so strong that a man would rather kill another person than admit to it.

Men have become slaves to their pride, we have become like little boys afraid to express real feelings with reason. What really makes a man? What really makes a man is our ability to be noble, to be gentlemen, to be the protectors of wisdom and strength. We're supposed to be the role models for each other not the critics. We are supposed to use our intellectual faculties and tame ourselves because we are wise enough to know what benefits everyone is what benefits us.

But now look at us, we've become so self centered that we can't even recognize how far we have fallen as a species, we can't even stop arguing about each others opinions enough to see it. We've failed ourselves and we're too damn ignorant to change.

It's because we lack roll models and we're not pushing ourselves to become new ones. All it takes is an apology whether to someone else or yourself but people are too full of bitterness to see it.

Society is not fully developed, nor do we know how to progress from here...will we ever? It may be that we are all slave to biology within the grand scheme of things in relation to life here on Earth and really it's all been done before, including women rising up as valuable members of society and then, again, falling.

a reply to: Indigent

The great majority of women are feminine by design and to me that's a great thing!!!! couple that with their ability to be completely independent of a male counterpart in today's society, able to support themselves if they have enough education and ability, why on earth would they need a nagging husband or boyfriend?
I could see where the OP post might be going, but I won't go there!!!
I think being feminine is completely different from feminism, all woman should be able to do whatever they want unconstrained, that's what I believe.
So are all women that choose independence and not using a men as a crutch a feminist? well, ummm no I think not and I also believe that it's difficult to make the distinction, and the argument being made in the OP above is actually sort of unproven.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
You know why women are becoming feminist? You really want the truth? It's going to hurt I promise you.

Women are feeling neglected, used, and unappreciated by men.

Might be. But a person is responsible for their own feelings. They might be warranted, they might not be. Men are not fully responsible for a woman's feelings. If she feels neglected when she wants a $100.000 car, but he only has a minimum wage, that is HER problem. Not his. Women need to detach themselves from things like materialism, and then maybe, they will be appreciated more. Not saying all women are materialists. It's an example, but generally, women should definitely lower their expectations. They're buying too much into romanticized concepts by movies, and those things are destructive.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
We treat them like they are tools for pleasure, like a pet dog.

How exactly? Again, a woman is responsible for her own body. And how many women have a dream to be models and to look like barbie and so on? If they buy into these beliefs, it's their responsibility. You can not dress like a hooker, and expect to be treated respectfully. If you want something, you have to do something for it. You're not going to get it just because you were born with a vagina. And you'll be surprised how many women actually LIKE being treated this way...

This video is extreme, but there's some truth in it.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
When we want attention we call it, we pay attention to it. But when we want to do things for ourselves we neglect them and we push them away. We're cowards, we aren't men.

Well, maybe we push them away because they are being unsupportive of our dreams. Maybe they want us to do everything for them and neglect our own needs and desires, and well, it doesn't work that way. You have to give to receive.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
We hide our pains and we hide our feelings, we even go as far as to condemn other men as fags and homosexuals for not hiding behind a false sense of pride that grows so strong that a man would rather kill another person than admit to it.

Men have become slaves to their pride, we have become like little boys afraid to express real feelings with reason.

We hide our pains and feelings because since we were little, we're not allowed to express them. We're not allowed to cry, we're told to sit down and shut up rather than to be active and adventurous like most boys are. If you do any of these things they put you on ritalin. It has nothing to do with pride. It has to do with self-protection, because most men have learned since they were children, that expressing their feelings is followed by being punished. The opposite of women and girls. If she plays the victim she gets what she wants, if he does, he gets ridiculed. So it's no miracle that women have become professional victim players, while men seem cold and non-caring. Men care, a lot. But now, caring for women has become almost synonymous with losing your children and everything you worked for. So now, men become more distant and don't want anything to do with women. So if the things you mention are the causes that women join feminism, they need to think a little, and understand that they are only making things worse.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
What really makes a man? What really makes a man is our ability to be noble, to be gentlemen, to be the protectors of wisdom and strength. We're supposed to be the role models for each other not the critics. We are supposed to use our intellectual faculties and tame ourselves because we are wise enough to know what benefits everyone is what benefits us.

I agree with most of this, but, what do you mean by 'tame' ourselves? For some reason it sounds like you're insinuating that we're inherently evil, and supposed to become more like women. Men are not evil, and are not supposed to be like women.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
But now look at us, we've become so self centered that we can't even recognize how far we have fallen as a species, we can't even stop arguing about each others opinions enough to see it. We've failed ourselves and we're too damn ignorant to change.

Yep. And this applies to both men AND women.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
It's because we lack roll models and we're not pushing ourselves to become new ones. All it takes is an apology whether to someone else or yourself but people are too full of bitterness to see it.

Role models is the stuff that gets us messed up. Looking for role models is giving your power away. This is why there are people that want to be like Kim Kardashian. This is why so many people claim to be feminists without looking anything up of it. This is why people are manipulated into supporting wars, ignoring injustice, hating each other and so on. The main role model has become television, and there is no greater role model than that today. We need to stop the idea of needing role models, and instead we have to start thinking for ourselves. We need to see ourselves as our own role models, develop our own qualities. Determining what is right for us in our lives, without negatively impacting the ones of others, is what will bring humanity to light. We are all unique yet equal. We are all made the same, but we have a different perspective than everyone else. And this perspective is where our needs and paths will be different from each other, which means a certain role model will never fit our own lives. We must invest in ourselves... We must respect our freedom to choose...;

a reply to: vasaga

Role models is the stuff that gets us messed up. Looking for role models is giving your power away. This is why there are people that want to be like Kim Kardashian. This is why so many people claim to be feminists without looking anything up of it. This is why people are manipulated into supporting wars, ignoring injustice, hating each other and so on. The main role model has become television, and there is no greater role model than that today. We need to stop the idea of needing role models, and instead we have to start thinking for ourselves. We need to see ourselves as our own role models, develop our own qualities. Determining what is right for us in our lives, without negatively impacting the ones of others, is what will bring humanity to light. We are all unique yet equal. We are all made the same, but we have a different perspective than everyone else. And this perspective is where our needs and paths will be different from each other, which means a certain role model will never fit our own lives. We must invest in ourselves...

Another instance:

a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

oh that must by why I am so screwed up! my hubby has the tv on all night playing video games so I have no role models to look up to!
10/1 most of the problems men and women are having today can be traced back to one thing-- sex--- and their desire to get it with no strings attached! the more partners the marrier, we'll decide if we like each other tomorrow!

a reply to: Indigent

Well you see my fellow humans.

What is happening is that men are deciding not to play the game of life.
When we as people decide to play a game, we set up rules so you can't have an unfair advantage. We establish these rules after trial and error and in order to change these rules, the players of the game must all agree to change the rules.

Imagine playing a game of basketball with friends and a team of strangers. Everyone is following the rules so to speak. And then one of the opposing players shoots the ball before it goes into the net.

Well, they say, overnight, a new rule has been introduced where you can use a pistol to block a shot. Everyone in the world but you has been informed.

You wouldn't play the game after that now would you? Because you don't have a pistol and therefore, they can shoot your ball and you can't shoot theirs.

That is what is happening in my humble opinion. You have women demanding equality from men but not showing the same.
Men get abused by their female partners.
www.ncadv.org...
In fact, it is estimated that they get abused just as often but men are less likely to report it. Women would laugh in their faces, saying how they aren't big strong men. Other men would call them little girls or other names for not being a big man.

Women also receive lighter jail terms.
www.dailymail.co.uk...
One example of many where equal crimes don't get equally punished.

A girl grabs the crotch or ass of a boy, they're playing around, trying to have fun.
If a boy grabs the crotch or ass of a girl, he is committing sexual assault or sexual harassment.

The rules of the game have been irrevocably broken, so men have decided to not play at all.

You think revolution isn't coming. You think that people are going to continue to be used and abused by the people with power? I know that a lot of people want to believe that. They need to believe that. They need to believe that feminists will win and that the government will stick around.
That nothing is going to change. Wake up, brush your teeth, go to work from 9 to 5, come home, sleep.
Repeat after me I am Free

Wrong. Just as the MSM can be used against us, it can be used against them. Just as the Internet can be used against us, it can be used against them. As a street magician of 3 years and a very successful one at that, I can tell you that people only see what they want to see. Even as they try to figure out the trick, they don't actually want to figure it out. They want to believe in the magic behind the trick. The magic of ignorance.

a reply to: dawnstar

o.O
If I look at this diatribe in a mirror will it make sense then?

a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

who is Kim Kardashian???
reckon how many people are really that interested in her?
or is it the media just hyping her up to give us the impression that we are out of touch with the world because we don't give a darn who she is or what she is doing???
I was serious as to what I said
the only time the tv is on in our house is when my hubby is playing video games or watching football
holllywood has seemed to have lost it's creativity and there is very little worth watching on it
even the news is crap and not worth watching.
you seem to be assuming that society is messed up because of what is on tv and I am wondering if enough people actually watch the crap to make a difference

people tend to point to this or that as the reasons for something when there's probably only a small portion of the population that is connected to this or that. what about those that aren't connected what is there reason for being screwed up? or is there one big reason why it's all screwed up?

a reply to: dawnstar

The big reason is: it is screwed up, because it is screwed up. But I believe it's always been this way. Classic human: Ignore the gap between expectations and reality till it's too late and then point fingers at whoever or whatever else played a part in that disappointment while ignoring the own responsibility.
There has to be a outer force that made me do this or that, or they took advantage of me, to paint oneself as victim is obviously no female but a human problem. Solution is only possible, if you always try to be aware what is wishfull thinking and what is possible in reality, or which of your phantasies symbolise needs and what is only self-entertainment. Or what lies you're telling and living because you want to fit in your current herd. But for some reason people I observe prefer to look for placebos instead of working on realising their own truth.
For example one likes feet, gets ridiculed too often, doesn't dare to admit this anymore, gets a new girl, they almost bore each other to death in bed, while she doesn't dare to ask him to suck her toe and he does everything to ignore the fact she has feet.
Honesty: it is srewed up, because we screw it up, We lie, because we are afraid.

a reply to: dawnstar

Ok.....
No less out of left field, but at least it's understandable now.
I never said or even hinted anything of the sort.
My views on society and it's problems are complex and well frankly not germaine to this thread.

I will say this.
It's good your life does not revolve around the "idiot box".
You however, are sadly the exception rather than the rule.
And that "celebrity culture" crap sells, plenty of people do care.
Otherwise it'd not exist because there'd be no profit to it.

a reply to: Peeple

I don't expect that Rex Ryan has the time to be getting thirty pages deep in an ATS thread, but if he did, I imagine he was just very delighted by your post.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

oh that must by why I am so screwed up! my hubby has the tv on all night playing video games so I have no role models to look up to!
10/1 most of the problems men and women are having today can be traced back to one thing-- sex--- and their desire to get it with no strings attached! the more partners the marrier, we'll decide if we like each other tomorrow!

Have you considered that humans aren't actually monogamous?

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

It's not "a few", it's a tectonic shift that has only just started. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Also, the knee jerk reaction about daring to criticize feminism is very telling. This is the byproduct of third wave feminism, which is outright hatred of men.

It started in Japan in 2006 as the "Herbivore Men" movement and a form of it has taken root in the west where I think it will eclipse the men's right movement.

Men are checking out en masse.

Don't think I already posted this...

originally posted by: projectbane

originally posted by: Grumble
Seriously, you guys are the biggest losers on the face of the earth. You have to run away crying because women, who are physically weaker, make less money, are discriminated against in many ways, and live in constant fear of you, are being bullies? GROW THE # UP.

Here is the reality: in general women are much better human beings than you by almost any measure. You should be spending your days loving them with all your heart while learning from them and treasuring the roles they play in your lives.

Sincerely,

A Man.

Wow, this is the kind of slipper wearing man some poor woman will one day fall in love with and realize that her life has amounted to a series of flannel pajamas and missionary sex position only!!

Naive

Yeah, right, pal, just keep telling yourself that. Maybe I was just raised to be a Man and not a whining little boy. My mother, my wife, and my daughter are the treasures of my life and I will provide for them and protect them with everything I have to give. And if some sniveling punk boy bothers them, he will meet the "slipper wearing man" and wish he hadn't.

a reply to: vasaga

humans or men?? Because monogamy was enforced to the extreme on women throughout the ages.

And well one has to consider that the loosening of those extremes is the main reason why I find so many men on these boards complaining about how they are getting zapped for child support on kids they claim is not their own.

For some reasons I think what the guys want is for them to be allowed to live a non-monogamous relationship but they still want the assurance that those they think are their kids are indeed their kids so they would rather the women still had their freedoms limited.
And well sorry but what is good for the goose is also good for the gander!

Having glanced through a few more pages of this thread, it occurs to me that 20 and 30-something keyboard jockeys who may or may not be virgins (or may be highly inexperienced) and may or may not support themselves financially are very poor judges of what is fair, and indeed of what is the nature of human beings and women in particular.

My advice: turn off the computer, the smartphone, etc. Get out and experience life. Join clubs, attend public events, volunteer. If you don't have money, there are still many things you can do. But if you DO have money, don't think going to bars and getting stoned/drunk constitutes experiencing life. Learn about things you never knew and do some good for someone other than yourself, and you will see your confidence and your attractiveness grow. If you do not support yourself, get off your ass and do so as quickly as you can. You should not be above doing any job to get by, but you should be above taking charity, even from your relatives, assuming you are a grown man with no mental or physical handicaps.

When I think back, I could have slipped into self pity and rage against women, but I suppose my upbringing (and especially the influence of my father) helped me get through hard times. Maybe you didn't have that. Maybe you have to find that strength within yourself. All I can tell you is that it is WORTH THE EFFORT. My wife loves me so much that she tells me how handsome I am every day (I am nothing special). She respects me because I am a #ing bulldog who has built a good income and a life for us, but I can still be sensitive to her needs and her desire to control parts of our life together. I am educated, but my current business could easily be done without that. I just fought, fought fought until I was able to get a foothold and eventually grow something special.

Be a man, a real man, and stop whining about how the world isn't fair. If you do the right things and demonstrate your character and your will, you will attract the right people to you. No matter how weird or unattractive or different you are. It doesn't matter. There are people for you out there and you can't find them in order to solve your problems -- you have to solve your problems first and then they will come to you. Good luck!

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: vasaga

humans or men?? Because monogamy was enforced to the extreme on women throughout the ages.

Cheating is pretty much equally prevalent in both genders. The fact that it's so hard for either gender to remain faithful should make us question the idea of monogamy in humans. To say that only men are not, well, there's not really any evidence to support that statement, and aside from that, it comes from the same anti-male idea that women are better than men. So here's some statistics.

Percent of men who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had: 57 %
Percentage of women who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had: 54 %
Research Date: 1.1.2014
www.statisticbrain.com...

Monogamy is simply a model that gives a somewhat reliable way to bring up children in the urban environment. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

originally posted by: dawnstarAnd well one has to consider that the loosening of those extremes is the main reason why I find so many men on these boards complaining about how they are getting zapped for child support on kids they claim is not their own.

Uh... You think a life of perpetual slavery is adequate? Especially after the mother themselves demonize the father since they can extort the man through the government anyway, it's simply an abomination. Especially after they were the ones that were careless with getting pregnant.

originally posted by: dawnstar
For some reasons I think what the guys want is for them to be allowed to live a non-monogamous relationship but they still want the assurance that those they think are their kids are indeed their kids so they would rather the women still had their freedoms limited.
And well sorry but what is good for the goose is also good for the gander!

Well, it makes sense, because, in modern day life kids cost money. Obviously, men want sex, but only women can get pregnant. So, it's the women's responsibility to be the limiting factor. In the end, if you're allergic to peanuts, and you go to restaurants regularly, and one day you get an allergic reaction, you can't expect to randomly blame restaurants because they didn't take care of the peanuts for you. You can't enslave the restaurant for the rest of your life because you were not careful enough with your food. Since women have the 'problem' of being able to get pregnant, it's up to them to protect themselves.

It's the old cliche. With great power comes great responsibility. The power to carry and give life is a great thing, and the responsibility is equally as great. Does that mean that men should leave women in the dust? No. But it does mean that women should take care of themselves as well, and not expect only men to do it for them. Women can get help from men, but it should not be that men solely carry the responsibility for women's crappy mistakes. No one gives a man a hand when he makes one, why should women be given a hand every time, even after they make 20?