Arizona pastor predicts ‘AIDS-free Christmas’ if all gays are killed, as God commands

originally posted by: theNLBS
I have an NLBS episode already written about this guy.

Too easy.

If there's anyone here who can remotely agree with this quarter wit, I don't want to know about it. He doesn't even have the mitigating quality of being so absurd he's funny, like my Main Man Robert Tilton.

a reply to: olaru12

Nice to see bigots using the excuse of religion to further their hate. I hope this idiot gets the boot.

a reply to: jtma508

If you feel like the bible is in error, why accept the claim that it accurately speaks for God?

I don't see that this line of thinking confirms or denies anything about the presence (or lack of) of a God(s). Behavior like in the OP, however, show that there is hypocrisy and error.

Hypothetically, if God(s) exist, whatever such people claim about its nature, boundaries, etc. are likely to be filled with the same errors perceived in their other actions and behaviors.

Whether or not God exists, it's difficult to base any serious inquiry into the subject on the claims of people who act against their own claimed beliefs.

a reply to: jimmyx

NO we wonder why you can't grasp the obvious.
Unless YOU are of the opinion these SINGULAR examples OLARU DIGS up as DILIGENTLY as possible, represents ALL of Christianty or just a hook to hang a tired old hat.
We are repulsed.

a reply to: olaru12

makes me wonder.

how many divorced followers does he have?

God hates divorce. It's a sin.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: jimmyx

NO we wonder why you can't grasp the obvious.
Unless YOU are of the opinion these SINGULAR examples OLARU DIGS up as DILIGENTLY as possible, represents ALL of Christianty or just a hook to hang a tired old hat.
We are repulsed.

I don't necessarily see how it indicates that he thinks that it represents all Christians--at least I haven't heard him say that.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: jimmyx

NO we wonder why you can't grasp the obvious.
Unless YOU are of the opinion these SINGULAR examples OLARU DIGS up as DILIGENTLY as possible, represents ALL of Christianty or just a hook to hang a tired old hat.
We are repulsed.

Repulsed? Many of us are repulsed by the examples I so diligently dig up.

btw...it's not just Christianity....I'm on a Crusade to show the inherent hypocrisy in ALL religions, but Christianity seems to be the one that gets the most attention on the interwebs. That's not my fault.

I'm not gonna stop but your input and defense is always welcome. It's called freedom of speech...you know it's in the constitution, remember?

Since so many American pastors have been recruited by USA covert intelligence, I am not surprised by this kind of rhetoric so close to the Christmas holidays. True faith is under attack, and the psyops operations are of many different kinds.

a reply to: beforemorning

Is it too much to think that some people are just genuinely awful souls, and not part of some covert psyop?

originally posted by: beforemorning
Since so many American pastors have been recruited by USA covert intelligence, I am not surprised by this kind of rhetoric so close to the Christmas holidays. True faith is under attack, and the psyops operations are of many different kinds.

I think that it's more a case of some people seeing a particular demographic and then deciding that hating it loudly is the best way to have a high profile. And some people also seem to confuse their personal views with their faith. This particular pastor has form for saying incendiary things. There's a so-called 'pastor' in New York called David Manning who has been equally insane for the past few years.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Oh good ol' Pastor Manning.

Anytime I need a chuckle I just fire up my internets and look at his videos.

a reply to: beforemorning

You don't actually believe this do you? I mean everyone knows that pastors are people too and can be subject to the same biases and temptations as anyone (see: Catholic priests).

www.goodreads.com...

“I always encourage them to practice in a way that will help them go back to their own tradition and get re-rooted. If they succeed at at becoming reintegrated, they will be an important instrument in transforming and renewing their tradition.
...
When we respect our blood ancestors and our spiritual ancestors, we feel rooted. If we find ways to cherish and develop our spiritual heritage, we will avoid the kind of alienation that is destroying society, and we will become whole again. ... Learning to touch deeply the jewels of our own tradition will allow us to understand and appreciate the values of other traditions, and this will benefit everyone.”
― Thích Nhất Hạnh, Living Buddha, Living Christ

“But sharing does not mean wanting others to abandon their own spiritual roots and embrace your faith. That would be cruel. People are stable and happy only when they are firmly rooted in their own tradition and culture. To uproot them would make them suffer. There are already enough people uprooted from their tradition today, and they suffer greatly, wandering around like hungry ghosts, looking for something to fill their spiritual needs. We must help them return to their tradition. Each tradition must establish dialogue with its own people first, especially with those young people who are lost and alienated. During the last fifteen years while sharing the Buddha’s Dharma in the West, I always urged my Western friends to go back to their own traditions and rediscover the values that are there, those values they have not been able to touch before. The practice of Buddhist meditation can help them do so, and many have succeeded. Buddhism is made of non-Buddhist elements. Buddhism has no separate self. When you are a truly happy Christian, you are also a Buddhist. And vice versa.”
― Thích Nhất Hạnh, Living Buddha, Living Christ

In other words don't judge don't abandon the faith, transform it.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Very wise words. It would do many religious leaders good to take this to heart. Sadly, it comes from a Buddhist, and would be discarded quickly by people of other faiths.

Today we call these people extreme and fundamentalists but not so long ago (see dark ages) death penalties for the sinners was a common practice approved by the church.
Anyway, I can't understand why you think he is not a true ''loving'' christian, in his holy book, god says homosexuality should be punished by death.

''In Leviticus 20:13 God tells us that those men who engaged in a homosexual act were fully responsible for this deed and had to bear the consequences of it, namely, the death penalty. These men were fully responsible for this sin that they committed. Homosexuality is not some inborn, innate tendency over which a man has no control. Rather it is something that a man chooses to do, and God holds him fully responsible for that action. A man can never legitimately say, "I could not help it. I was born this way. I have no control over my sexual conduct. I am not responsible for my actions and I should not be punished for something that I could not help. I cannot change what and who I am." No, this man was fully responsible for his own death ("[his] blood shall be upon [him]") because he chose to commit a crime worthy of death.'' www.middletownbiblechurch.org...

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Very wise words. It would do many religious leaders good to take this to heart. Sadly, it comes from a Buddhist, and would be discarded quickly by people of other faiths.

Not necessarily, we had a march for Christ a few years back that Buddhist attended,

There is interfaith dialogue more often than you think, I have also prayed side by side with Muslims in church in my community.

Only the wacky things are brought to light, think about the billions of religious followers world wide and how few of their followers really do harm in comparison.

a reply to: Dr1Akula
Well in some places it is still punishable by death.

originally posted by: JHumm
I wonder what he is hiding ? I bet if you were to follow him around you would find him doing things that he is speaking against in his sermons.

Yeah and he's probably groping some kid.

I hate all the "God commands this" being used to justify and perpetuate mankind's petty prejudices. Hopefully the majority of mankind has grown up enough to see the lies and hate for what they are.

I feel really sorry for God. He's so tolerant. If I were Him I would have bolted the lot of them and then I would be having a little chat with the good Pastor and his little friends - just before handing them over to the other bloke.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

It also says that working on the Sabbath is a stonable offense.

But he doesn't seem to mind breaking that, and many other rules laid out in his good book.

The only reason for him to be so selective is because he's a bigot.