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originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
originally posted by: michaelbrux
a reply to: Lyxdeslic
made up? its real.
staying power? no.
waiting for a chance to switch places with the unsuspecting? definitely.
ISIS are identity thieves first and foremost...everything else is bluster.
they probably do have pieces in place to make something happen, but they'll just embarrass themselves.
It's funded by the U.S. just like Al Qaeda was.
Staying power? Yes. The threat will be there as long as the government wants it there. The U.S. needs a boogeyman.
Identity thieves? What proof do we have of that? Also. There are identity thieves in our own country. Not nearly as big of a threat as you think.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: michaelbrux
Do you think ISIS could have found the WMD's hidden in Syria and are now re-commissioning them ready for an attack on Europe?
originally posted by: michaelbrux
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: michaelbrux
Do you think ISIS could have found the WMD's hidden in Syria and are now re-commissioning them ready for an attack on Europe?
its a threat they'd never carry out without first achieving identity theft...it would legitimize an equal response.
they are identity thieves, they enjoy shopping and want stuff to be in europe to enjoy. i think many live there.
the government cannot create anything like IS
originally posted by: knoledgeispower
a reply to: michaelbrux
What this user saying is the same thing I said. ISIS, Boko Haram & Al Qaeda were all created by the U.S gov to get troops in places where they need to be.
the government cannot create anything like IS
Yes they can and worse. You underestimate the power of the U.S gov and which powerful people they create & support, sorry to burst your bubble.
Now whether ISIS is now on their own for power like Al Qaeda or they still have most of their strings being pulled, that's a different story.
originally posted by: michaelbrux
originally posted by: knoledgeispower
a reply to: michaelbrux
What this user saying is the same thing I said. ISIS, Boko Haram & Al Qaeda were all created by the U.S gov to get troops in places where they need to be.
the government cannot create anything like IS
Yes they can and worse. You underestimate the power of the U.S gov and which powerful people they create & support, sorry to burst your bubble.
Now whether ISIS is now on their own for power like Al Qaeda or they still have most of their strings being pulled, that's a different story.
ISIS emerged in January 2006, when the US was already in Iraq with 180,000 troops...that doesn't make any sense.
The US left Iraq...and then went back...why didn't they just spring ISIS on us in 6.2011? and save on gas.
i think it would be more accurate to say that entities outside of government, using US assets and capabilities were able to build and develop the group that became ISIS; possibly for use once they no longer had access to US assets and capabilities.
A government is a machine and isn't capable of building anything or bestowing a fate or destiny. even blaming the government seems to be an attempt to deflect attention from the real flesh and blood individuals responsible for the group or the beneficiaries of its activities.
i'm going to go ahead and keep in mind that real people are at the core of ISIS, perhaps they once worked for the US Government, maybe they knew someone who did. but these real people lurk about the US and Europe shrouded in darkness looking for a chance to attack Americans and they don't operate from US Government Property and have no Government sanctions...just a gang of dimwited oafs that bit off more than they can chew.
you blame the machine if you like.
i think it would be more accurate to say that entities outside of government, using US assets and capabilities were able to build and develop the group that became ISIS; possibly for use once they no longer had access to US assets and capabilities.