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The Presumptuous Creator (Aeon) and the Nail Holding Him Here

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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 06:33 AM
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edit on 29-11-2014 by Prezbo369 because: double post



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Yes. I am in agreement, but the Son below is the Bride (body). The bride joins the Son (head) who repented. I do believe this, but the head still rules the body. The groom comes back for the bride eventually. Again, this is true. The point to be made is that the groom is also the brides father. His choices dictate the nature of the bride from the past as well as the present and future. The snake was made by the Son of God. He IS the Lord of Hosts below. Until he decides to end war and repent to us openly, the deception of names blotted out of his book over the last 2000 years will continue to be just that--deception. It is at his command that this happened. If not Him, then the Snake he keeps alive.

Manly P. Hall

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. * * * So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, * * *."

Consider in thoughtful silence the startling use of pronouns in the above extract from "the most perfect example of English literature." When the plural and androgynous Hebrew word Elohim was translated into the singular and sexless word God, the opening chapters of Genesis were rendered comparatively meaningless. It may have been feared that had the word been correctly translated as "the male and female creative agencies," the Christians would have been justly accused of worshiping a plurality of gods in the face of their repeated claims to monotheism! The plural form of the pronouns us and our reveals unmistakably, however, the pantheistic nature of Divinity. Further, the androgynous constitution of the Elohim (God) is disclosed in the next verse, where he (referring to God) is said to have created man in his own image, male and female; or, more properly, as the division of the sexes had not yet taken place, male-female. This is a deathblow to the time-honored concept that God is a masculine potency as portrayed by Michelangelo on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The Elohim then order these androgynous beings to be fruitful. Note that neither the masculine nor the feminine principle as yet existed in a separate state! And, lastly, note the word "replenish." The prefix re denotes "back to an original or former state or position," or "repetition or restoration." (See Webster's International Dictionary, 1926.) This definite reference to a humanity existing prior to the "creation of man" described in Genesis must be evident to the most casual reader of Scripture.


He must openly repent to us for the Father to see his words and actions as true. His own words condemn him if he fails to love enemies and fails to forgive his enemies. None can be lost. The Rainbow (all nations) is the promise. Destruction, war, division, accusation and remaining the adversary of man will simply repeat the lie of Nineveh. He told Jonah that Nineveh was important and that they must be saved, then turned around and wiped them from the Earth. That's what we call a lie from a pretender to the throne of the true Father. Malachi 4, the last words of Yahweh are then the lie of Matthew 10. Opposite. It cannot be both ways. Either he sticks to his own words or he is condemned by them.

You can't be a peacemaker and then unleash sudden destruction. Either one or the other. You can't send enemies to hell, but say you love your enemies. One or the other. I trust the Father and Holy Spirit who made us. That's as far up the line as truth can reach to get away from the one killing us.

The Father needed only Genesis 1 and part of 2 before he rested. After that, he handed it over to the Son as a test. The Son will eventually come through for us, but not before he learns the very lessons he was trying to teach. Self-righteousness is as bad as wickedness. I choose to follow the story to its end and be honest about what it says. I may be a lone voice crying in the wilderness. So be it. I will cry out here in this place.



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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

God is the sum and the Source of all relationship, in a manner of speaking. So no, God does not have a website. However, regarding the New Message from God, the documents that comprise the transcribed Revelations, as well as some of the recordings themselves, have been made freely available in an accessible format. Currently the NM spans over 9000 pages of transcribed text, so much of it is still waiting to be published. However, a substantial part of the NM can be found at newmessage.org

Key texts available for download:

  • Steps to Knowledge
  • Greater Community Spirituality
  • The Reality and Spirituality of Life in the Universe
  • Certain chapters of Relationships and Higher Purpose
  • Certain chapters of Wisdom from the Greater Community
  • Certain chapters of Living the Way of Knowledge
  • Great Waves of Change

I hope this answers your question!



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: AllyofHumanity9220

That looks dangerously like a cult, and the fact that the leader claims to have received all of these texts via personal revelation from god or 'unseen ones' is eerily similar to the claims Joseph Smith made when inventing Mormonism.

After looking into this it seems to me that Summers is either an outright spiritual fraud or another in a long line of deluded people claiming to get messages from beyond, and I lean towards the latter.

Be careful.



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

The Son is neither above nor below, he sits in the middle. The bride below is the Mother, the husband above is the Father, the one between the two is the Son because we are both body and spirit, we are the melding of the upper and lower planes.

You've got a superstitious mindset, until you have broken that mindset you will remain confused. Religion causes superstition, you are trying to fit square blocks into round holes.

Little do you know, you are causing division within yourself by holding on to superstitions and dogma. We are not separate from God and God does not have an "endgame" that he is working toward using us as pawns, that is the carnal mind speaking. You're so caught up in the OT and its metaphors that you fail to see the simple truth within

Revelation is a lie. Jesus warned of those who claimed to speak and prophecy in his name saying "the time is near", Revelation checks all of those requirements off the list within its first chapter.

You have been deceived, but not everyone has as you claim. To assume no one has ever discovered the truth of things is ignorance, and to base that conclusion off of a book that you agree deceives people is even more ignorant.

No offense to you brother, but the babel of the bible has you hook, line, and sinker. You will run yourself in circles trying to decode it, it wasn't meant to be a revealer of truth, it was meant to be a hider of truth.



posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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I have explored Plato and the the rest of them at length. The path leads to ruling this world of multiplicity with a hoped for unity. The Father is not interested in further building a decaying creation. His intent is to give us a perfect estate for free. No need to build this one. It's for one purpose only. It is designed to show us the way back home.


That was an awesome post. Thanks.





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