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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
By your response its clear that your supporting fascism as pointed here.
A bill recognizing the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) as warring combatants in the Second World War has been registered for debate in Ukraine's parliament.
The way is open for discussion in the Verkhovna Rada of activities by two organizations charged at the Nuremberg post-war trials for collaboration with the forces of Nazi Germany.
OUN was founded in western Ukraine in 1939 and allied itself with Nazi invaders fighting Soviet partisans. In 1943, the group was reorganized to become the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, notorious for mass executions among the population.
While churches were opened relatively quickly in land conquered from the Nazis, a long bureaucratic process was needed to open a church on Russian soil (taking up to three years and instantly derailed by anyone in the bureaucratic chain).[7] The hierarchs of the ROCOR condemned this new arrangement with Stalin, saying that the Moscow patriarch had “made an alliance with Satan.”[3]
The relationship between members of the ROCOR and the Nazis during World War II (when Germany turned against the USSR) has long been an issue addressed by both the Church and its critics. A 1938[8] letter written by Metropolitan Anastassy to Adolf Hitler, thanks him for his aid to the Russian Diaspora in allowing the building of a Russian Orthodox Cathedral in Berlin and praises his patriotism.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001
No need to dispute, just go on with explaining what you do.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001
No need to dispute, just go on with explaining what you do.
Ad hom attacks are the crudest form of propaganda. Judging by the star your joke got, someone really likes ad hom attacks around here. We all know who, and documenting this misbehavior will begin soon enough.
You don`t even see the irony in that your own post was one long ad hom attack against posters who in your mind are pro-Russians...you can put lipstick on a pig, but it`s still is a pig.
You don`t even see the irony in that your own post was one long ad hom attack against posters who in your mind are pro-Russians...you can put lipstick on a pig, but it`s still is a pig.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
You don`t even see the irony in that your own post was one long ad hom attack against posters who in your mind are pro-Russians...you can put lipstick on a pig, but it`s still is a pig.
My post defines propaganda and explains techniques propagandists use. Are you saying that certain pro-Russian posters use these techniques?
I`m saying you want to make the impression to forum members that this is happening.
You`re trying to influence forum members their minds because the facts which have been emerging about what's been going on doesn`t suite what you want to let people think is going on.
No, I am trying to get them to realize who has been lying to them. Since you have not challenged my definition of propaganda, I assume you agree with it. You have also not commented on the propaganda techniques I have explained. Good. Time to open your eyes.
The propagandist thrives on misdirection, lies and repetition. Their objective is to repeat a lie so often that it begins to seem like common knowledge. A good example of this is the way Russian propagandists always referred to the provisional government in Kyiv, and continue to refer to the newly elected government as a "fascist junta," despite the fact that less than 5% of the government are members of far right wing parties, roughly the same as in Putin's Russia. Neither was it a "junta," as they were all civilians who were elected to their positions before the President caused a constitutional crisis by defecting to Russia. Nevertheless, the lie has been repeated so often that many people simply believe it.
When facts are presented that contradict the lies, the propagandist must evade. One way of doing this is to attack the credibility of the person or organization presenting the disturbing facts; this leads to ad hominem attacks. The more these attacks are repeated, the more threatened the propagandist feels.
My next post will demonstrate a perfect example. To avoid potential T&C violation, I will not link to the original posts so the identity of the member is partially shielded.
So the next time you actually After my first post, this was the response:
I have a question is this your daily job as a propagandist for the state department? i had to ask your UN link is misleading. Just like your thread as always.
RT calls it anti-Nazi, I call it pro-censorship.
I had no idea some here in ATS actual had supported the fascists but seeing this thread just raises the suspicion. So In truth the bill was not anti-Nazi but censorship?
This is coming from the same American whom has being defending Kiev's government since the EU protests had started, its comical.
Three ad hom attacks in a single post. This member did not dispute my statements at all, because he dared not! If he drew attention to the actual resolution, it would be obvious that I was right, so he chose to defame me instead. Unlike the member who attacked me, who supports censorship, I have always condemned fascism; genuine fascism.
edit on 3-12-2014 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)
You`re trying to influence forum members their minds because the facts which have been emerging about what's been going on doesn`t suite what you want to let people think is going on.
I have a question is this your daily job as a propagandist for the state department? i had to ask your UN link is misleading. Just like your thread as always.
RT calls it anti-Nazi, I call it pro-censorship.
I had no idea some here in ATS actual had supported the fascists but seeing this thread just raises the suspicion. So In truth the bill was not anti-Nazi but censorship?
This is coming from the same American whom has being defending Kiev's government since the EU protests had started, its comical.
I am quite surprised to see a small number of users in here supporting fascism while doing so avoiding what the fascists did in WW2 and WW1. defend fascists why dont you look up to there history of war crimes and ethnic cleanse which they have committed eh?
By your response its clear that your supporting fascism as pointed here.
What you people here have being doing is basically not only defending the fascists but also making claims that Putin is Stalin then Hitler and backwards without any evidence.
Really now? so people whom want to ban fascists actually means advocating Banning freedom of expression? since when is supporting fascism and fascists an freedom of expression?
But not surprising your defending fascism.
Why are you defending fascism and Hitler?
Some people defending fascists and fascism in general.
I am not the one here defending fascists. But seeing this thread and how your the one claiming that anyone attacks fascism is therefore trying to curb freedom of expression gives me quite a laugh.
Germany knows what glorying the fascism is and thus have supported it the same way in Greece i guess your also supporting the fascists in Greece to then.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: DJW001
Of course, he then repeats the lie. Over and over:
Well some people think the more you say it then it will eventually be believed.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001
That's because it is happening.
It happens in your mind, as I have said many times before.