Science News..........."If Planet X exists........."

originally posted by: ngchunter
I have the reputation I have because I don't let it slide when people accuse me of being a liar. Some people choose to ignore such attacks, so be it, but I choose to make an example of people who try it. You're just upset because I didn't let it slide. Look at what you just said, you just want me to "get over it" and ignore it.

Uh no I admitted that it was a simple misunderstanding, but protecting your beloved reputation has caused you to exhibit symptoms of one who possibly suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder. Trust me, I once came very close to suffering from it myself many years ago, luckily I woke up in time.

You are not my friend.

I guess you chose to skip the eggnog? Well ok then, but surely I am not your enemy over a simple misunderstanding?

You made the decision to come at me swinging, accusing me of being condescending and suggesting that I do not actually own a telescope. Don't act so shocked that I do not accept your suggestion that you are my friend. I'm not the "sheople" you apparently mistake me for.

No you apparently are not, not that I thought that you were. However, You do seem like a very unforgiving, angry and defensive person, or maybe you're just having a bad day like I suggested.

I still enjoyed your pictures though. Hey ngchunter? Have a Happy Turkey Day buddy. Just don't forget to gobble til you wobble! ~$heopleNation

Changed my mind, will let mods sort this out.

originally posted by: Eunuchorn

I'm sorry, but do you really think astronomers use pictures of the sky & compare visual light sources?
Go take astronomy 101 at the local community college.

A dude in his backyard with a telescope is not an amateur astronomer no matter how many pictures he may take.

Here is an article about how amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy looks for comets. Lovejoy is the discoverer of C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy), which eventually became a very spectacular naked-eye comet. He has also discovered several other comets, using a Celestron C8 telescope, simliar to the one in the picture below:



Two years prior to C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy) becoming visible, Terry Lovejoy discovered it by using an "Image triplet" method, by which he takes a succession of three images and then compares them, looking for any objects moving differently against the background. He has a computer first cull out candidate images, and then he scans those candidates manually, looking for comets or asteroids.

Australian amateur Terry Lovejoy discovers new comet

So yeah -- they way I previously said that amateur astronomers search for comets and asteroids is generally the way they actually do it. Any amateur astronomer using this method could also find a Nibiru-like planet the exact same way.


EDIT TO ADD:
Here is a picture of amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy's actual telescope that he uses to find comets, such as the famous C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy), and Terry Lovejoy himself:


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originally posted by: Promagstyle

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What do planes landing have to do with it?

Meh, too much bickering and personal tit-for-tats. Can we talk about the hypothetical Planet X instead?

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originally posted by: wildespace
Meh, too much bickering and personal tit-for-tats. Can we talk about the hypothetical Planet X instead?

Hey Wildespace, What do you think about the possibility of the Asteroid belt, that exists between Mars and Jupiter, being what is left over from an exploding Planet X? ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

For the record anything is possible and I see nothing wrong
with your moniker. So keep it, it's ballsy.

Thanks! Ya, I chose the name when I was just finding out about all of this. I had way more ego back then, so I guess that means I attached some importance to being a bit of a maverick. However, now I care more about the truth and try to not have attachments to ideas, things, emotions etc. Just really still attached to some people and nature now.

a reply to: SheopleNation

Not enough material.

If you took all the asteroids located in the belts between Mars and Jupiter, including massive Ceres, you would not have enough to make a planet the size of our moon even.

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Bad timing to start a new thread, my friend... hahaha... Ferguson chatter will be dominating ATS for the next handful of hours, at least...

Anyways, to your OP.. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, we are learning more and more about the solar system each day, so maybe we will one day find this mythical planet X... But if planet X is true, I think the Govt./NASA/etc. would have a hard time hiding it if it got closer, especially with all the amateur astronomers we have out there today..

Yes, I thought this could be a nice diversion from all the Ferguson divisiveness, thank goodness you don't see much of that on ATS - but how the PTB keep us divided is a story for another thread.

I also thought the same, if Planet X was close the government/NASA would have a hard time keeping it a secret. Then I learned about how many infrared telescopes (land and space based) they have launched and built in the last three decades - there are quite a few. So many objects in the Universe cannot be seen with the naked eye - the visible spectrum is narrow.

Here are just the largest ones:

originally posted by: ngchunter

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
This subtitle gave me a laugh given how many on here vowed that Planet X did not exist.

I never said another planet beyond Neptune could not exist. I don't know anyone, anyone who thinks that. It's just that YOUR idea of "planet X" is false. You're attempting to hijack scientific hypotheses of "planet X" with your idea that "planet X is here" as in, here in the inner solar system and about to pass our planet (www.abovetopsecret.com... www.abovetopsecret.com... ). In fact you seem to think it's so close that it's being witnessed by people with regular cameras in airplanes www.abovetopsecret.com... . This is amusingly contrary to the scientific hypothesis of planet X that you are attempting to co-opt. The hypothesis of a planet beyond Neptune, so far away that it is actively influencing and constraining the arguments of perihelia of the orbits of Sedna, VP 113, et al, is directly at odds with your beliefs about Planet X being "here." You of course latch onto the term but all the term really means is an undiscovered planet orbiting our sun. It is not in agreement with your stated beliefs though.

I'm just trying to get at the truth, please don't take anything personally. I think we can have an interesting discussion about many topics on ATS, and if we can't be friendly, at least we can be neutral. It is a waste of energy to invest emotion on topics here, especially negative emotions.

I guess I come at "Planet X" from this perspective - Do I completely trust the government, NASA, CIA, NSA etc? No. Of course they are not always lying, maybe they hardly lie at all. But do I think there are many things they keep from us? Of course.

So if you trust the government and you have an infrared telescope with which you think you can cover the whole sky, then I guess we have nothing to talk about. If not, welcome to the conversation!

originally posted by: Pauligirl

Maybe I won't have to change my name afterall...

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

You might. To PlanetXisTHERE....way, way, way out there.
I know it's a little long. but it has a certain ring to it.

You're right, that does have a nice ring to it!

originally posted by: eriktheawful

Not enough material.

If you took all the asteroids located in the belts between Mars and Jupiter, including massive Ceres, you would not have enough to make a planet the size of our moon even.

Thank you for the response Erik, I was not aware of that. I always wondered how anything that we send out there doesn't get destroyed by asteroids, I mean how do they keep any spacecraft from hitting any of those? ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: EndOfDays77

I thought this Planet X malarkey was behind us with the passing of 2012 and the nubiru rubbish.

Just how did you see this planet when it's further out than Neptune.

You ever seen Neptune with the naked eye before?

Of course its your right to believe this topic is malarkey and rubbish, but why bother to keep clicking on these threads then? Oh yes, altruism for your fellow man, very commendable.

a reply to: SheopleNation

The asteroid belt isn't something like we see in the movies, each asteroid is thousands and thousands of kms apart from each other..on average.

Some are probably close together but on the whole, there is wide open space between them

originally posted by: ngchunter
Zetatalk is an internet cult.

I agree with this poster and what he/she is saying, zetatalk/poleshift ning seem like some kind of internet cult, and I would be very wary of it. They do a good job at documenting earth changes such as animal deaths, weather anomalies, effects from apparent tectonic activity etc. However, I would be very wary of anything else on that website. Also, I would contrast what is said there with what is said on the Allies of Humanity videos, some may find it "enlightening".

I definitely do not endorse poleshift ning/zetatalk or Nancy, she seems far from a "spiritual" person, she is often quite nasty and quite ruled by her ego, also she endorses the replacement of the human race with hybrids, so if you buy into her agenda I guess that makes you a traitor to the human race.

originally posted by: Chadwickus

The asteroid belt isn't something like we see in the movies, each asteroid is thousands and thousands of kms apart from each other..on average.

Some are probably close together but on the whole, there is wide open space between them

I understand that, but does anyone here know how they avoid obstacles, or is it just some sort of hoping for the best chances scenario? It's just something that I have often wondered about, like with The Voyager probes. All that time out there and they have never been struck by anything? I mean, that's amazing if you really think about it. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: SheopleNation

Actually, they tend to be separated by millions of miles.

Take a look at this image:



It's from the Wikipedia on Asteroid Belts.

It's showing asteroid density. The problem with the image (like many things in Astronomy) is: Scale.

At first glance, one would go: OMG! No WAY we can get through all that!

Think again: each dot on that image? Each dot is bigger than our planet. Of course there are no asteroids in our solar system bigger than our planet, but if they showed them to scale in this picture, the "dot" would be invisible. Way too small to see.

Going with these dots at the size they are, what you'd need is to physically make this image the size of: A football field....at least. If you stretch it out that far, those dots will also stretch out and the space in between the dots comes quite clear.

There is a chance of a probe or ship hitting some small pebble sized asteroid (and at interplanetary speeds, it would be a disaster of nuclear proportions! ), that can never be discounted. But because the space is actually so big, the chances are still small.

a reply to: eriktheawful

Ok now that makes a lot of sense, thank you for the reply. I guess over time those pieces of whatever those asteroids are from would gradually spread further and further a part. I figured they were at least miles a part, but what you said makes much more sense considering the amount of time that they have been out there, which who knows how long that really has been. ~$heopleNation