Has our DNA been spliced with keys that allow for other kinds of being to incarnate into us?

That's an interesting theory. A lot of new age mythos state that the ego is the survival mechanism of the physical plane which is to be overcome by our 'divine' nature in order to control our urges and whatnot. That being said, it seems like your theory states that the ego is our animal self, and that these beings that incarnate in this physical animal might actually be our consciousness.

a reply to: SystemResistor

nice topic
i just think all vehicles require a driver

Well its not so new an idea. It can be that various ET's are over the heads of various groups as well, and that we have quite a mixed up DNA, and some renegade thrown into the mix as well. This may at least facilitate for communication and also for access.

Also on top of that, there is a spiritual way that this is always said to work, ie. certain blend of DNA, common amongst the elite, is able to be taken over by negative entities or what they call 5th dimensional beings, who operate through them, the number is used alot, but to me that's arbitrary, I always think lower not higher.

But the point being something in the next though negative astral or dimensional plane, they would be non physical to us, but we don't know that they're actually not denser from their persepctive.

From a technical perspective, cloning humans and other primates is more difficult than in other mammals. One reason is that two proteins essential to cell division, known as spindle proteins, are located very close to the chromosomes in primate eggs. Consequently, removal of the egg's nucleus to make room for the donor nucleus also removes the spindle proteins, interfering with cell division. In other mammals, such as cats, rabbits and mice, the two spindle proteins are spread throughout the egg. So, removal of the egg's nucleus does not result in loss of spindle proteins. In addition, some dyes and the ultraviolet light used to remove the egg's nucleus can damage the primate cell and prevent it from growing.

Cloning facts

An interesting topic for sure. But I don't like the hogwash about "prisons" the "brain battery" stuff and the Scientology-ish feeling I get when I read your opening post.

With that being said, I do somehow believe in "older spirits" I do believe the Earth is one tiny part of one bigger humanspiritual connection. I don't necessarily believe the other planets are that much different. Different timeline maybe, but not like in time-travells and parallel worlds, more like an older more continuos cultural development. Here on Earth we seem to have a thing for falling back in our general educational development, like the burning of the Alexandrian library for example.
Spirits from other planets taking over an individual, is so ancient demonical and superstitiously assumed, I just can't see how that would work in a human mind. Would that mean I loose all my experiences and memories? Get a conflicting second set of memories and characteristics? That would lead to a schizophrenic personality, no matter how "open-minded" and welcoming the host character is. So no.

I do have a thread here somewhere I feel a little bit ashamed, when I read it now, concerning a developing "hive-mind" (I was under a lot of stress, didn't think things through and was after a few near death experiences), the only thing that is an undisputable certainty after all these experiences is this: We are many, we communicate, we share this planet and we won't get help, without helping ourselves first. Alien contact is still a huge maybe, no certainty. Earth as a loving caring mother ship that kindly floats us through space, is very likely, I see it, I can touch it, I can smell it. With everything else I would be carefull, we don't know for sure and focussing on these theories distracts us from the one thing we have now and possibly only have it once: Life.

DNA is base 4 computer code and is better than binary code we use in our computers today because its like a 4 pole magnet and if you split a DNA string in half then you can rebuilt the strand by using the poles on the magnet.

N sticks to S
S N
E W
W E

At each junction in the strand we have a sugar molecule.

The DNS is the blue print of the physical body and that is why I am good looking and you are not but hidden in our DNA are markers like CRC error checking to make sure that the data is not corrupted.

We know all this because we use physics to prove it and physics is based on maths like a computer uses and our brains act like a computer.

The inescapable truth is that we are living inside a computer simulation and Physics is simply the CPUs instruction set with rules that cannot be broken.

Any "Alien" modification to our DNA is the result of another programmer working on our code and as is always the case you end up with redundant code that never gets called by the main program.

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If the universe was a computer simulation (and I'm not saying it is -- but I'll buy into that idea for the sake of this discussion), I would think that the programmer would give only a few selected rules to the program (which could be something like a unified theory of physics), and everything else -- i.e., all of the rest of the details of the universe -- is emergent from those few rules.

For example, I doubt a programmer bothered with encoding human DNA, considering humans have been around for, like, one second of the total time of the universe was compressed into a 24-hour day. Instead, I think it's more likely that the programmer programmed just the basic rules of the universe, and everything else we see is simply an emergent result of those rules, including what eventually became what we call humans.

In that respect, if (big if) there was a master programmer of our (potentially) computer-simulated universe, humans were not necessarily an intended result of that program, but just an eventual byproduct. One byproduct of many other similar "beings/organisms" since the program began, with many more to possibly come in the future as the program continues.

A very simple basic analogy would be a program that is designed to generate two random numbers and add them together. The programmer is not looking for a certain end result -- the programmer is simply setting the ground rules to calculate the result, but the result itself would be random.

a reply to: SystemResistor

Fall to your knees and surrender to your higher power. What takes control? If you are no longer serving your own self-interests, whose interests are you serving?

Many are "foreign" however, they are "keyed" into the individual "animal" just before birth, so, this includes many regular people, that are living with a body that is also aware, yet subservient. This "body" would house the natural "animal" consciousness, and I postulate that when one loses control of his/her inhibitions, it is the animal taking over.

I believe that the natural "animal" was taken at an early stage of its development, and engineered by "aliens" (foreigners) so as to house their spirits, so, beneath all of it, we are still primates, however, the primate "soul" or "essence" is subservient to the higher beings that "incarnate" into their bodies, and this includes most of us.

I do not think that animals "incarnate" in linear chains with discreet memories of their "past" - they are accumulations of experiences and they function according to instincts, although each new birth has its own unique "essence"...

I see spirits as individual entities that have linear paths - they "visit" Earth, and then they "leave" - animals are connected to the fabric of "life" based in carbon forms.

I also see it in children - the "animal" has control at early stages of development, however, this society functions to subordinate it, and when the individual "matures" they gain control of "consciousness" and the instincts become subservient. Often I see that a "complete" "take-over" or "transition" occurs, where the "animal" is "extracted" leaving the "incarnation" in control.

To face this as a reality is to face that you or me once were living with our "animal" and he or she is now in a state of "coma" under our control without "access" to the mind or to "free will" - that I also believe is "engineered" to allow us to "pilot" ourselves.

Daunting to say the least, however, frightening if I were to realise that I was in the same boat...

In my heart of hearts, I feel as if "he" was taken from me:

I remember that "he" was with me, a child, innocent and vulnerable, and I felt like I used to try and "stand up for him" and teach him things, however, I remember having a dream where what looked like "aliens" "pulled" his "essence" out of my body...

At times, when I was in a different state, he was not innocent at all, rather, he was imposing and manly, however, threatening - I feel as if I have almost lost my primal "strength" and my carnal "drives" as a result of this "extraction".

a reply to: SystemResistor

This will probably come across inappropiate, but the feeling I get, when I read your post is, you were abused as a child. Could be totally wrong, don't get offended, not saying it is true.

Just feels like you're very torn between the innocent spirit and the carnal animal, that's the price for the free will. Nothing foreign, or alien about it. Sure it would dumb the world down to make it easier to grasp how some people do "bad things" without regret, but it ain't true. Just a modern version, of demon possesion, or witches, still pretty silly to believe in it.

a reply to: Peeple

The dream of being surrounded by "aliens" tampering with me, does correlate to a particularly traumatic childhood experience...

I remember that I was being supposedly tested for "allergies" - I was taken to a specialist medical centre and a group of doctors had be de-robed and put on a table, I remember kicking and screaming, and then, as I was injected with something, I passed out. I remember the room I was taken to and I was surrounded by doctors. Later on I remember "waking up" and being led to a table and chairs, where my arms were "scratched" with a kind of file in many places.

All I had were hay fever symptoms, and I only remember that it was "allergy testing" because that is what my parents had told me...

Now this memory is quite "distant" but I remember when I was young, something or rather being strapped to my eyes, I remember it was very uncomfortable, and I remember, at home, having to sit on a chair with this thing strapped to my head, again, a distant memory.

Often times when I have my dinner, I get strange "pulsating" symptoms and feel on the verge of collapse.

When I had a psychosis, I remember collapsing on the ground, and waking up in the morning with an intense feeling of fear.

I don't really know what it was all about, many here would say "MK Ultra" or some kind of secret experiment...

I have also had dreams about being routinely taken to some kind of a "clinic" when I was young, but they are very confounded and blurred as if possibly I had been hypnotised to forget.

When I dig deeper in my "past" I remember being on Earth as a "vistor" and I remember what appeared to be "chimp like" creatures and some other "race" that were actively experimenting on them, I remember feeling an intense "bitterness" towards them. I even remember approaching one of them that had a wound on its hand (the result of an injection) and comforting it.

I have always felt like I was "mature" underneath, yet, had always to deal with the part of me that was a child - I still think that it was the person that would have existed if there were "no incarnations" - in fact, you can look at my theory and say that "incarnation" is something that is done by beings that wish to occupy human bodies and naturally we really are just a collection of thousands of memories and individuals, in the collective sense, as opposed to a "self" that has occupied bodies in a chain of "incarnations".

When it comes to my identity, I have always been trying to "complete" myself, the goal is to merge all of my possible "selves" into one being, sometimes I do feel like that child, other times I have felt almost like a giant ape, and when I think about it, I am the product of many individuals in the non-linear sense, and my goal has always to become "one".

They say that there exists a construct called the "atman" that all consciousness within a body experience, making it extremely difficult to differentiate our "selves" because we share the same "mind" - and I have experienced myself as being a variety of individuals. I feel that parts can be "removed" from our selves...

Lets say that there were no visitors to Earth (if there were), and the simian species evolved naturally - they would be a cohesive group and they would not suffer with the identity issues and there really would be only "one" race of Earthlings as such, and not the variety of soul and spirit types that we see today...

I feel that "he" was a simian fragment that I inherited, I remember when I had nightmares, I was not scared, however he was, I even remember now, that I routinely used to talk to him.

I feel as if he has been "removed" against my wishes.

You can take another approach to the phenomenon - and that is alien races that are on the verge of extinction. They have reached the point to have become spiritual entities, however, they are running out of bodies to inhabit. So, they visit a world with a race that they can splice themselves into, and thus, incarnate into new bodies and keep their identities in-tact, and with time, say, tens of thousands of years, slowly modify the genetics of the "host" creature so that they become "integrated" and can continue their existence in the physical world.

a reply to: SystemResistor

I am very shocked by your traumatic experiences. You are a strong person, and I can see why you need to make sense of your feelings.
From someone who always was an arrogant asshole(me): I never had to deal with helplesness, since I am twelve years old I was the one "playing" with the people around me. So I feel like we have a similiar old soul, but differ a lot at the same time, by what we went through. Maybe that is why we share the same outlook with varying conclusions.

No "evil" alien race is experimenting with humans on Earth. Trust me, I was abducted, by very earthly humans, just as your trauma is caused by humans of this planet. Don't fall into the trap door, that will lead you to nothing but getting disconnected from who you are: A complex, intelligent, loving maybe sometimes torn creature capable of imagination and wisdom, just as much as cruelty and ignorance. This is very human.

Hugs and keep your chin up. Go outside and touch something comfortingly real whenever you can.

a reply to: Peeple

I have had so many recollections and memories about extra-terrestrials to know, at least in my mind, that they exist, and this goes beyond what one is generally able to access on the internet.

An alien is not necessarily an extra-terrestrial, it is something "foreign" or "unknown".

What would make one soul older than another - it has had experiences in times and places that predate the experiences of younger souls. This could mean one that evolved on another planet and went through the experience of "civilisation" already.

I have much knowledge about my "pasts" and they have occurred to me as dreams and visions, yes, it could be the imagination, but all things must have a source, a point at which they were conceived, and of course a real phenomenon that they are based upon.

I do however, understand the point of view that the concept of "aliens" could be a scape-goat for advanced human technologies.

My mind is trying to explain something to the best of its abilities, a very complex notion, and all it does have to work with is its current knowledge. We can propose that there are things kept secret from us, things that would unlock certain doors so that we can gaze upon the truth of the matter.

I can reiterate without mentioning "aliens" specifically:

The connection to life exists with the instincts or the primitive brain, when one is connected to the instinctual state, they are prone to aggression and violence. Perhaps we are being "tampered with" on an advanced neurological level, that seeks to sever the "cords" to our instinctual natures, thus losing our "essence" or "spark" as animals.

In the case above, "they" can be aliens or non-aliens, although in my mind they are foreign beings to this planet.

Not to mention of course, that I might also be one of them, a visitor that has found his way into occupying a human being.

a reply to: SystemResistor

You can see how I have put together a variety of concepts commonly discussed on ATS to formulate my theory:

1) The idea that we are in a "prison" and "trapped" in "flesh"

2) The idea that we truly belong on the spiritual plane and that we have "fallen" to the physical plane

3) The theory that extra-terrestrials have tampered with our DNA and have been tampering with it for ages

4) The theory that one can have more than one "consciousness" within the same body

5) The theory that we are "slaves" to extra-terrestrials or negative/demonic entities on this planet

6) The idea that there are two kinds of person, "natural" animals and those whom have "souls" that continue to have an existence beyond death.

a reply to: SystemResistor

Why would a force select you as a target?

1. Money
2. Political/Power Threat
3.Revenge
4. A woman/man

Don't be paranoid,
It's no fun.

a reply to: Wildmanimal

Because I am a perceived threat, simple as that, a "non-compliant" that is trying to "stir the pot".

a reply to: SystemResistor

Everyone is a non-compliant trying to
"stir the pot", when they bargain for better.

It is this way the World Round.
Just because you may be a stone in
someones shoe does not mean that they
will try to poison you.

More than likely they would fire your ass,
black ball you, and screw with your accounts.
That is basic to sending someone over the edge
without actual poison or violence.

I would recommend a massive Multivitamin
inclusion to your diet.
No fast food, no drugs, no alcohol for 30 days.
Have some turkey,mashed potatoes,and Lots of
Cranberry.

Take 1 aspirin daily, and call me in the morning.

Happy Thanksgiving to You and Yours.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People
Thanks first for the question because it made me re-examine my theory and helped me to make another important connection.

For example, I doubt a programmer bothered with encoding human DNA, considering humans have been around for

You are 100% correct in that windows was not built to run Minecraft III but provides a framework for programs to run but the DNA we humans make use of is more or less the same as not only things like a fish but even a plants that has about 30,000 sets of genes just like us. Below video is worth watching even if you think you fully understand DNA and switched.



This video is about 2 hours long and covers Darwin but then moves on to the DNA connection and was produced by NOVA and anyone that likes science really should check youtube out for releases from NOVA.

The structure for Genes, switches and program timing (choreography they call it) did not get crested by anything to do with Darwin evolution but was designed up front (like physics) for new mixes of genes to be tested almost at random with the odd bump from, well, something but not a man that built the earth in seven days.

Some parts I am still trying to understand myself concerning the mind and sole if we have something like one but I have reached a startling conclusion that I am trying to debunk myself and I cannot decide if I dare even share this knowledge regardless of being ridiculed in much the same way as Charles Darwin was at first.

The programmer is not looking for a certain end result

Yes agree and man as seen today is far, far from being near the end result

I hate to paint these beings in a negative light for the fact that they are not supposed to or indented to be apart of our reality, however in a way society would not be the way it was without them. There are many different "groups" of them that are incarnate in human form, and if one is sensitive enough, they can pick up on these different groups by watching television and people.

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Instead, I think it's more likely that the programmer programmed just the basic rules of the universe, and everything else we see is simply an emergent result of those rules, including what eventually became what we call humans.

AMOS 5:8 "seek the one who has created pleiades & orion, who turns the shadow of death into morning"

UNIT76:
the beautiful part.. in the same way a black-hole might be beautiful (yet inescapable).. no matter which way i look at this subject.. i can summarize it like this; it all has something to do with how we 'integrate' further into the universe ...something left the information for us as a way to drag ourselves back to it?
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Fall to your knees and surrender to your higher power. What takes control? If you are no longer serving your own self-interests, whose interests are you serving?

…4You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose: "He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us"? 6But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, "GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE."

1 thes 5:21 "test ***ALL*** things! hold fast to that which is good"


@systemresister
what you were saying back there (personal experiences) ..i can relate to about 70% of that
i think the interchange between someone like you & that member called 'peeple' is a good insight into things like motivation & intent (very important)

Taming the Tongue
…10from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way. 11Does a fountain send out from the same opening both fresh and bitter water? 12Can a fig tree, my brethren, produce olives, or a vine produce figs? Nor can salt water produce fresh.

James 1:27 (NIV)
27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

13Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. 14Let all that you do be done in love.


...evil aliens?

4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.…

…42"As the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle. 43"And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery. 44"In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.…

The Full Armor of God
…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

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