The Greatest Lie Ever Told

Does not America have a history of eugenics, I could be wrong and do not have time to re research but I am pretty sure the USA beat the Nazi's to it by a fair few decades?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: TechUnique

I'll give you the point of man made religion, but that would be exactly what the elite would have created.
So you say that man created some religion but then turn around and say that it makes no sense for them to do it....

And tbh if we want to get technical, all religion is man made, as it is man that make up the beliefs.

Christianity is not man made it is the inspired word of God. People are forgetting. The bible isn't a made up fairytale it is an account of history.

An account of history written from the perspective of ordinary people who were commanded by God. These people who wrote the books of the Bible were not trying to profit from it. If you actually read the new testament and the teachings of Christ there is nothing about command and conquer in there.

That's where the evil comes in to play. The bible has been warped and used as the scapegoat for almost all of today's problems when the real problem stems from much of what our problem is today.

Evil people trying to take over the planet.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Does not America have a history of eugenics, I could be wrong and do not have time to re research but I am pretty sure the USA beat the Nazi's to it by a fair few decades?

Yes, it does.

Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics

The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics was founded in 1927 in Berlin, Germany. The Rockefeller Foundation supported both the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Psychiatry and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Anthropology, Human Heredity and Eugenics.[1] The Rockefeller Foundation partially funded the actual building of the Institute and helped keep the Institute afloat during the Depression.

EugenicsEdit

In its early years, and during the Nazi era, it was strongly associated with theories of Nazi eugenics and racial hygiene advocated by its leading theorists Fritz Lenz, (first director)Eugen Fischer, and by its second director Otmar von Verschuer. Under Fischer, the sterilisation of so-called Rhineland Bastards was undertaken. During World War II, the Institute regularly received human body parts, including eyes and skulls, from Nazi party member Karin Magnussen who studied eye colors, and Dr. Josef Mengele (at Auschwitz) to use in studies intended to prove Nazi racial theories and justify race-related social polices.

Eugenics in the United States

The American eugenics movement received extensive funding from various corporate foundations including the Carnegie Institution, Rockefeller Foundation, and the Harriman railroad fortune.[6] In 1906 J.H. Kellogg provided funding to help found the Race Betterment Foundation in Battle Creek, Michigan.[10] The Eugenics Record Office (ERO) was founded in Cold Spring Harbor, New York in 1911 by the renowned biologist Charles B. Davenport, using money from both the Harriman railroad fortune and the Carnegie Institution. As late as the 1920s, the ERO was one of the leading organizations in the American eugenics movement.[10][12] In years to come, the ERO collected a mass of family pedigrees and concluded that those who were unfit came from economically and socially poor backgrounds. Eugenicists such as Davenport, the psychologist Henry H. Goddard, Harry H. Laughlin, and the conservationist Madison Grant (all well respected in their time) began to lobby for various solutions to the problem of the "unfit".

originally posted by: swanne

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: swanne

You do know hilter has nothing to do with what we are talking about right?
And you are taking his actions a little out of context.
Hate was his driving force, plain and simple.
What ever he used to rationalize that hate is irrelevant, he hated people that he felt were unfit and acted on that hate.

Hitler was an example of how politics and science can marry and form a monster. And how it can all happen again.

How politics will seek justification from scientific theories to push their agendas.

But hey, who cares, right?

This describes global warming and the mountain of gold in carbon taxes that will supply the ones who wield it.

a reply to: TechUnique

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Sremmos80

You do know that politics is in a dangerous marriage with the Theory of Evolution, right? Hitler's Eugenics was a direct result of this scientific theory. Blinded by "only the fittest should survive", he attempted to overtake Europe, and killed thousands to "purge" the Earth of those he viewed as less evolved.

Right now, I would argue that politics is in a dangerous marriage with science, period.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Does not America have a history of eugenics, I could be wrong and do not have time to re research but I am pretty sure the USA beat the Nazi's to it by a fair few decades?

Eugenics in one form or another has been around much longer than the just Nazi's. That is just the most familiar modern name for a specific version of it but it's been around probably ever since people realized we all didn't look or act the same as everyone else.

Humans have and still do use a whole slew of pseudoscience to subjugate other humans. We still do it today only in more subtle ways.

originally posted by: TechUnique
Christianity is not man made it is the inspired word of God. People are forgetting. The bible isn't a made up fairytale it is an account of history.

Is that a scientific fact? Or a belief?

People aren't forgetting, they're disagreeing.

a reply to: TechUnique

I must ask then, is Christianity the only true religion since it is the word of god?
And should only the NT be followed and just forget about the OT?

a reply to: TechUnique

ANYTHING good can be hijacked and used for bad. In fact you will find that the most successful serial killers stood as noble pillars of the community and no body suspected the evil behind the deception, or that it was a deception at all to begin with.

Sometimes you just have to step back and see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that religion is a lie and a form of mind control.

There is a reason they don't want you believing in Christianity. There is a reason they molly coddle the violent forms of Islam whilst condoning attack on Christians.

So you don't want people to believe in Islam. You are just the same as the people you are talking about..you know "they". It seems to me it is all Ra Ra go team Christ. Abrahamic religions are all rooted from the same place biggest difference between Islam and Christianity is who you believe was the last prophet. Both of your religions have some good points and bad but they were both made to be control mechanisms. Hell Christianity a roman invention has simply taken lore from dozens of other pagan religions.

Do you think it's because they care about you being duped?

It is you that has been duped. Just watch this and see.

Seeing as they spend an unlimited amount of time, money and resources pulling the wool over your eyes 24/7.

Organized religions have more money and spend more resources on converting people to their beliefs than most countries of today and yesteryear have ever had the ability to get their hands on. Most have this thing called tithing so it is in there interests to have more followers and power/influence.

Interesting fact is that I have never had a person or group try to get me to turn away from religion but the opposite has happened all through my life. Simple thing is I can't bring myself to believe in something that is a lie because I see religions as a lie.

If I were to delve back into religion it certainly wouldn't be with Abrahamic religions. Not Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and hell no to Mormons. No to scientology as well. Hinduism has some good tenants but if any of the major ones are close to the truth it would have to be Buddhism. I am pretty sure the good stuff in Christianity actually came from Buddhists anyway so why go to the secondary source.

However I have no plans to follow any religion I was just giving a hypothetical.

originally posted by: ShadowChatter
a reply to: TechUnique

Now you're not completely wrong. The way demons manifest themselves in our world is through extra terrestrial activity. I am not denying the existence of E.T's, Abductions and UFO's. What you have to understand is that these being masquerade themselves as Aliens throughout history.

Ancient history is full of depictions of reptiles from the underground and reptile being's from space. Satan is actually a worldwide phenomenon spanning back thousands of years in many different independent cultures throughout history. He is the ruler of this carnal world, a fallen angel from Heaven and the great deceiver behind all this conspiracy you guys kill each other arguing over.

This goes beyond mere corruption, it is pure satanic evil. This is why the rulers of this world practice Babylonian and Pagan tradition. These are mere guises for Demonic worship and the proliferation of Satan.

Please, please PLEASE research this stuff yourself guys. I remember when I was trapped in the cycle of deceit I would look for any reason to discredit the bible without actually reading it. This is preconditioned into us with predictive programing. If you look at any major Hollywood movie with a Christian starring as a character of interest, he/she will almost always be portrayed as a lunatic and/or evil and subsequently exiled and/or even attacked.

There is a shockingly obvious agenda behind this when you really get into the truth of the matter.

originally posted by: TechUnique
If you actually read the new testament and the teachings of Christ there is nothing about command and conquer in there.

Are we sweeping the OT under the rug?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: TechUnique
Christianity is not man made it is the inspired word of God. People are forgetting. The bible isn't a made up fairytale it is an account of history.

Is that a scientific fact? Or a belief?

People aren't forgetting, they're disagreeing.

It's commonly acknowledged that the bible is an account of history. It is often referenced when conducting studies of the associated time.

Yes it is a belief. One which rings true if you manage to climb out of the rabbit hole.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: TechUnique
If you actually read the new testament and the teachings of Christ there is nothing about command and conquer in there.

Are we sweeping the OT under the rug?

I didn't start the religion debate.

That was other people who from what I can tell are Atheists.

a reply to: TechUnique

Np. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of your view of the Bible. Obviously you are down with the New Testament and the teachings of Christ. You believe the Bible is an accurate portrayal of history, and God. If I understand correctly. I was just curious about your stance on the OT.

I didn't start the religion debate.

You posted your thread in the Religion, Faith, and Theology forum.

originally posted by: TechUnique
Evolution is the greatest lie ever told. It doesn't matter if you believe in creationism or not. Evolution theory is fraudulent science. It has not been proved by any means, does not have any supporting evidence based in real science and is akin to a cult.

Watch the video for more info.

Dog Breeding demonstrates evolutionary theory which is visible right here and now. It's not natural evolution but it is evolution in action. That alone is supporting evidence based in real science.

a reply to: TechUnique
Hey mister, are you a Christian?
If so don't hide it, even if the world is about to end. Always proclaim your Christian fate.

originally posted by: TechUnique
Evolution is the greatest lie ever told. It doesn't matter if you believe in creationism or not. Evolution theory is fraudulent science. It has not been proved by any means, does not have any supporting evidence based in real science and is akin to a cult.

Watch the video for more info.

Because Youtube has never ever allowed anyone to post pure BS just because they want to. Ever.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: TechUnique

Np. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of your view of the Bible. Obviously you are down with the New Testament and the teachings of Christ. You believe the Bible is an accurate portrayal of history, and God. If I understand correctly. I was just curious about your stance on the OT.

I didn't start the religion debate.

You posted your thread is in the Religion, Faith, and Theology forum.

The OT still has relevant teachings of God but is outdated and for the old age of man. The new testament is for modern man and is especially relevant to the days we are living in. If you read revelations and general End times prophesy you will see that EVERYTHING that was written has come to pass.

What's to come next is not pretty but it is inevitable, and it is going to effect us all. Whether or not you believe me it is actually dangerous for me to be telling you these things. Christians who preach end time prophesy are one of the number one targets of the elite alongside real libertarians and genuine truthers.

I am telling you guys this because I have a duty. It is not because I want to be the laughing stock of ATS, not that I care particularly. I'm putting any credibility I have left on the line to spread this message. I don't throw it in peoples faces but I am not afraid to discuss it. If you check my posts throughout this thread and just on ATS in general I think you will see that I'm a nice guy.

Also I'm not stupid. I have bashed Christianity on this site myself but I have also proclaimed my faith and repented. I have addressed all my doubts in life and to tell you the truth I have never felt more mental clarity in my life.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Oh I forgot to add. I didn't post this in the religion forum I posted it in the Science & Technology forum but it got moved twice by moderators.

Not that I'm complaining, it has turned into more of that sort of thread.