The Buzz Aldrin's unidentified object

I start this topic reluctantly because I'll have to steal time from other affairs but I do it because I think some of the ideas are too important to leave them buried under another current topic in ATS.
Buzz Aldrin made a fair description of the object they observed during the Apollo 11 mission, on their way to the moon. One of these descriptions can be seen below. In other occasions, he made the same description, or an approximate description, and ended the description saying that he believed it was a SLA panel (these videos are not presented but can be found elsewhere).
I admire his courage and I believe that his description is an honest account of the event. I admire him because he knows that his description don't corroborates his conclusion (it was elegant, it would reach everybody that could add up 2+2 ... bravo!!!).



Now, for those that cannot access the video, here is a transcript of his words:

“There is something out there that was close enough to be observed ... and what could it be.
Mike decided he thought he could see it in the telescope and he was able to do that and when it was in one position that it had a series of ellipses but when you read it real sharp it was a sort of a bell shape, that didn't tell us very much.
Obviously the three of us were not gone blurt out "Hey Houston we've got something moving along side of us and we don't know what it is. Can you tell us what it is?" We weren't about to do that, cause we know that the transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and who knows what somebody would of demand ... turn back because of the aliens or whatever the reason is ... so we didn't do that, but we did decide we would just cautiously ask "Houston, where, how far away is the S- IVB?" and a few moments later when they came back and said something like it was 6000 miles away because of the maneuvers, we really didn't think we were looking to something that far away, so we decided that after a while watching it was time to go to sleep and not to talk about that anymore until we came back and debriefing.”

I'm sorry for any minor mistake in the transcription but I'm in a hurry.


A SLA panel will tumble in space (rotate, it doesn't have an attitude control) and because of that, it will be perceived as a flashing object (in space or on earth). In previous missions, the SLA panels were filmed (film and videotape), the flashing frequencies were measured, etc. (if you see a photo with several panels, that's ok, no mistake, those photos were taken with long exposures so the panels will show up). It was pure fun.

Now, where in Buzz Aldrin's description does he mention a flashing object?

The conclusion is simple, if it wasn't a flashing object, it wasn't a SLA panel. And he knows that! And that's why he went to the Moon: he is intelligent and will not be questioned, but will pass a message.

The question remains: What was that object?

Thank you for reading and comments are welcomed.

a reply to: 2timesOO

Wait, wait wait. The UFO had a bell shape??

As in, Die Glocke?

Don't worry,
Pretty soon the Squad will be here to tell you
Buzz saw no such thing, your ears didn't hear what he said correctly,
and that this has been cleared up for quite a while.
..space junk .. you know because of the high level of traffic 200,000
miles out... in 1969.

I can't keep it straight, did we hoax the moon landing or did Buzz see a UFO?

I always get confused.

SO he joins other astronauts in saying he saw something up there. so is Neil still one of the only hold Outs?

I wonder if this goes with one of the reason's why we have less manned space mission's. I mean know one has been able to answer me seriously without a joke of some kind of why we haven't been back to the moon?

My uncle when I asked him sarcastically said well what reason do we have to go back to the moon?

There is every reason to go back to the moon!!!

I am sorry but I have to subscribe to the Richard C Hoagland point of view when it comes to these things.

a reply to: swanne

I'm not going to speculate on that ... not my thing.

"A SLA panel will tumble in space (rotate, it doesn't have an attitude control) and because of that, it will be perceived as a flashing object (in space or on earth). "

Depends on the axis of rotation. Did you forget that?

originally posted by: American-philosopher
SO he joins other astronauts in saying he saw something up there. so is Neil still one of the only hold Outs?

Don't believe everything you read on the UFO threads.

I discuss the massive mythology of 'astronauts see UFOs' here:
www.jamesoberg.com/ufo.html

We need to watch outside for unusual stuff, always -- sometimes it's a clue to vehicle malfunctions, and someday it could indeed be somebody else. But not yet -- and a blizzard of noisy false-positives can conceal important signals we ought to pay attention to.

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Don't worry,
Pretty soon the Squad will be here to tell you
Buzz saw no such thing, your ears didn't hear what he said correctly,
and that this has been cleared up for quite a while.
..space junk .. you know because of the high level of traffic 200,000
miles out... in 1969.

For new observers, you can sense the weakness of a poster's position by his enthusiasm for mindless mockery and for misrepresenting opposing views -- and the motives of those who hold them. It's a reliable indicator of deflecting from one's own intellectual bankruptcy.

May be useful to know.

The stuff that is seen outside spacecraft, by crewmen or TV, is almost always generated by the vehicle itself, floating along with it in a near-vacuum [LEO] or harder [trans-lunar].

Here's an overview of telescopic observations of Apollo on the way to the moon, including seeing the SLA panels 'flying formation' with the CSM. It was pretty easy to find with search engines.

www.astr.ua.edu...

This image, best: www.astr.ua.edu...

They saw something out there not of this earth.....cant you denyers get that.......

originally posted by: stirling
They saw something out there not of this earth.....cant you denyers get that.......

Your factless faith is touching, how do you figure you know enough to reach that judgment -- and make that sneer?

a reply to: stirling

No they can't. It seriously hurts them that their infinite wisdom can't comprehend something existing that's more intelligent than they are.

And we wonder why they haven't shown themselves to the public.....

You can either listen to what he actually says, or you can believe what people wish he'd said, or what some guy down the pub thinks he heard someone say he'd said.

He did not see any kind of alien spacecraft, nor has he ever said that he did.

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
You can either listen to what he actually says, or you can believe what people wish he'd said, or what some guy down the pub thinks he heard someone say he'd said.

He did not see any kind of alien spacecraft, nor has he ever said that he did.

And if you say different to his face, he'll punch you in the nose.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: American-philosopher
SO he joins other astronauts in saying he saw something up there. so is Neil still one of the only hold Outs?

Don't believe everything you read on the UFO threads.

I discuss the massive mythology of 'astronauts see UFOs' here:
www.jamesoberg.com/ufo.html

We need to watch outside for unusual stuff, always -- sometimes it's a clue to vehicle malfunctions, and someday it could indeed be somebody else. But not yet -- and a blizzard of noisy false-positives can conceal important signals we ought to pay attention to.

But "not yet"? Hi Mr. Oberg, what do you make of Gordon Coopers testimony involving his supposed encounter on a dry lake bed?

In here…

www.ufoevidence.org...

Further disclosures come from astronaut Gordon Cooper. When stationed as a test pilot at Edwards Air Force Base, Cooper along with several other airmen witnessed a UFO land in a nearby lake bed. The incident was filmed on a movie camera and the facts reported to the proper authorities. When the film was developed Cooper was ordered to send it to Washington, and that according to him was the last that he saw of it.

a reply to: JimOberg
Well, they were flashing.

a reply to: JimOberg

"Depends on the axis of rotation. Did you forget that?"

What are the odds? Very, very, very low (it would be much easier to win the lotto with those kind of probabilities).

originally posted by: 2timesOO
a reply to: JimOberg

"Depends on the axis of rotation. Did you forget that?"

What are the odds? Very, very, very low (it would be much easier to win the lotto with those kind of probabilities).

You're just guessing, and that hasn't worked very well for you up until now.

Show us some numbers -- rotation axes that show brightness variations versus those that don't. What are the odds?