Obama: 'I’m going to do what I need to do' on immigration

a reply to: ausername

Yes, however I also consider the impact on the population of the country today that normally doesn't vote. I can see a lot of them getting off their duffs if President Obama did this.

The Democrats alienated the "white" vote for most of the year with their recent campaign. We see where that led. Now imagine amnesty for 30 million illegals.

They say Bush was the death of the Republican party. I can't help but see the same thing in president Obama for the Democrats.

+I also assume slightly less than half of those getting amnesty will be of legal age to vote in 2016 (not that that matters to Democrats ) +

a reply to: 200Plus

I think you are underestimating the large number of apathetic, and generally ignorant Americans that simply vote for whatever's trending most popular.

Amnesty huh? Cool! Why not?

These people are already here, working and paying taxes....why not let them enjoy the same rights as a citizen as the rest of us.

Even after Reagan passed the amnesty bill in 1986, there was no substantial evidence to suggest that unemployment rates were correlated with amnesty. Same thing with Clinton's.

As far as an increase in welfare costs, I thought the talking point was that these illegals are already on welfare, gaming the system and screwing us over. So amnesty wouldn't change the burden on that program...would it?

Now, I don't like the idea of Obama using EO's to do it, but what choice does he have? The Republicans like Trent Lott were willing to work with Clinton during that period to pass a bill, but today we can't get the Republicans to do anything if it wasn't their idea to begin with.

Example: Obamacare. That was a Republican bill written by the Heritage Foundation and pushed by a Republican governor. Obama tries to take it to the national stage....it's a socialist peace of crap that is just the first step towards communism and death panels.

Outrage!

a reply to: sheepslayer247

These people are already here, working and paying taxes....why not let them enjoy the same rights as a citizen as the rest of us.

Cause they are not like the rest of us, they didn't get the god given gift of being born on US soil so they don't deserve to be here!!!! Duh

a reply to: sheepslayer247

You and I already came up with a fair solution.

Just place "Ellis Island" type stations all along the border.

When they come, process them accordingly and *ta-da* they are legal citizens.

Easy-peasy.

Instead of circumventing the law, instead of making new rules just for an election, perhaps they should have called us.

a reply to: beezzer

And how long has the reform discussion been going on for?
If you just want an ellis island to document them then what is wrong with giving them amnesty in the mean time since that idea is no available?
I mean this gets them paying taxes and putting their money back into the system like everyone wants.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

And how long has the reform discussion been going on for?
If you just want an ellis island to document them then what is wrong with giving them amnesty in the mean time since that idea is no available?
I mean this gets them paying taxes and putting their money back into the system like everyone wants.

I have a problem with rewarding people who have broken the law.

But I have no problem with granting citizenship with people who wish to work and become productive members of society.

At the border, if you are ill, have a criminal record, then nope. Wait to get better, and say good-bye to the criminal.

Everyone else?

Get in line, bring your proper documentation, and welcome to Murica.

Don't you know?

He knows better than the American people. He knows we elected him to make sure his agendas are carried out even if we protest. Obama knows best. Obama dearest.

I've said this time and time again. The US should apply every ILLEGAL aliens own countries immigration law unto them. Have any of you looked at how other countries treat illegal immigrants?

I bet it would half if not more the influx of illegal immigrants.

Immigration policies should be simple. Come here legally and be welcomed (all without 3-5 years of paperwork)

Or be sent back to your countries authorities or sent to prison AND THEN sent back.

Easy Peeasy.

a reply to: ValentineWiggin

I think Obama has been restrained as much as possible by democrats. Now past these midterms, the remainder of his last term, literally nothing to lose, people are going to come to know the real Obama, if they don't already.

The elections were a referendum on him, his agendas and his administration. So, you can add in that he is bitter, more isolated, angry and hateful than before.

Nothing he does, or attempts to do now would surprise me.

Fear his wrath.

At this point, after learning about the TPP, I couldn't care less if he gives amnesty to illegals. The TPP will do that anyway so if I'm going to pick my battle, it's going to be the TPP. I just hope there's something someone can do to get Obama out of office ASAP. He's sealing the coffin on the Democratic party, that's for sure and I think they're actually the ones that might end up stopping him. They'll be heroes and save some face for the party.

I think we can safely say the chit's about to hit the fan. It's going to be one hell of a ride for the next two years if he's going to keep playing nasty.

a reply to: Metallicus

Makes me wish for the good old days-when traitors were dealt with.

Obama is trying desperately to distract this nation and the Republican leadership with his threat to use EO on the immigration issue.

He needs them to be distracted from the demands the American People are making regarding Obamacare, the IRS debacle, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and a number of other executive power abuses he has perpetrated. If he can keep us talking about his threat to use Executive Order on immigration, we won't be talking about all the other things that need to be re-addressed and investigated.

This man is a menace to our country, imo, and if he keeps pushing it, Congress must do what they have to do and I think they have the American People firmly behind them.

The best part is going to be when congress does nothing about it,assuming it happens, now or in the next two years.
This move would help the corporate interest which is who congress is always for regardless of who is in control.
Sure Johnny boy will get in front of a mic and give you the I'm mad face and wave his finger, figuratively, at barry but nothing will happen.

Sign them up,
Finger print them,
Give them social security cards,
Let them work,
No card, no work.

Obama says:

Obama also said Sunday that inaction is a “mis-allocation of resources” and that the country cannot continue to deport people who should be allowed to stay and keep those who should leave.

Mr. mis-allocation himself speaks !!

He's got it all backwards.

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: ValentineWiggin

I think Obama has been restrained as much as possible by democrats. Now past these midterms, the remainder of his last term, literally nothing to lose, people are going to come to know the real Obama, if they don't already.

The elections were a referendum on him, his agendas and his administration. So, you can add in that he is bitter, more isolated, angry and hateful than before.

Nothing he does, or attempts to do now would surprise me.

Fear his wrath.

Rezlooper pegged an article from Charles Hurt warning us about
the next two years-- and probably it being as dangerous as right
before the Civil War. With everything internally and externally
coming to a boil, I agree with you on his stability and predictability.

Here's the internal link to our favorite hairy guy; and not a happy
read either inside the off-site Washington Times piece ...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The fan is getting bigger, as is the cauldron of steamin' hooey.

maybe there's more to Fast and Furious they havent disclosed yet

People are bashing Obama for acting like a child? Maybe some of you should read the comments on this thread, and elsewhere on the site.

What I found interesting about all this? They showed him on the news this morning.
Basically saying.
I'm signing an EO on immigration.
If reform does make it through and get passed, the EO will go away.


Anyone else buying that?