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My Rant to the Son and the Snake He Created - Lord of Confusion or Savior of Mankind?

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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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Many of you know my threads here on ATS, but do you really know my intent? My previous threads have covered my attempt to find the common symbols in the Bible so that they can be reduced to their root position of truth. A common complaint about my threads is the fact that I repeat myself a great deal. I will concede that this is true by necessity. I also hear the complaint that my threads are hard to understand and that I am rigidly fundagelical. On both counts, I can understand why you think this, but the necessity of this stand I take is for a reason. Truth will end war. I am fighting to that end.

In this rant, I tip the scales the other direction. My pendulum has been swinging to the right trying to find the truth of the Word of God. Today, I will tip that swing the other direction. Why? If truth can be known, so can error. Truth will always win the victory. If the Words of the Lord can be defended, then they will defend themselves. If not, then we will prove them wrong. I take a neutral stance in this and simply point out the obvious conclusions to my first set of threads here. With this, my own rants of the Word.

Lord or LORD?

Any Christian will tell you that they believe the LORD of the Old Testament to be the Lord of the New. Both were identified as Adoani (Master). We cannot confuse them as two different things. They are one. The words of one must be considered with the words of the other. If lies are found, then they will reveal themselves as either one of two things: Our confusion or a lack of clarity from the words themselves. Communication is the response you get. Improve communication to improve understanding. I will state my first RANT 1: Inform us please. Educate us and stop killing us. Education is vastly superior to war.

If the Snake is the Enemy, then why did you create it?

Genesis 3 informs us that Yahweh (Master / Lord) created the Snake. The Snake tried to deceive Jesus (also Lord/Adonai). The Snake is then sent back to the Abyss by Jesus in Revelation (also the Lord/Christ). By the deception of the Snake, all men are deceived and all nations are under a delusion. This means our Word in the Black Book must also be a deception. To keep men from gaining salvation, they are purposefully put in delusion by the Son of God, the creator of the Snake. My question is why? What makes sense about this? RANT 2: Kill the Snake and not us. End your pattern of war and destruction. Tell us what you have said in unbabeled language please.

Abaddon is the Destroyer and Father from the Abyss

AB is Abba, or Father. When added to a name, it is the title identifying a Father. Abemelek, for instance, is father of the king, where Melek is the King. Abaddon, then, is Father of the Son Adon, or Adonai. This seems reasonable, but does it follow the pattern we know from Adam to the last verse of Revelation? RANT 3: Why did you Babel our language? We don't know the truth because you have scattered us across many nations and languages. From this, we are divided by what we cannot know for sure. What exactaly do we have faith in? The regularity of war? That our families will be destroyed continually?

The Reason Adoani hung on a cross - Blood of Genesis 9

To understand the next part, you must understand why Adonai hung on a cross as the blood sacrifice of mankind. Elohim (His Father) required it from all the killing and war he caused throughout the Old Testament. While Elohim promised the Blessing to Man from the Rainbow, Adonai / Yahweh shed blood for ONE nation and not the rainbow of colors on Earth. Today, we still have continual war. Who is the destroyer and who is his son? Have I made the correct connection? Is Yahweh marked by war, accusation to mankind and an adversarial nature?

Genesis 9

“Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.

This was fulfilled. Humans shed his blood on the cross as payment for the sins he inspired in us from his own creation of the Snake. See RANT 2. We did this without knowing why? No one told the Jews what they were doing. Today, we still don't know this as evidenced in our churches. Do any Christians know that Yahweh created the snake?

Preserve the Family or Destroy the Family

Here are Yahweh's last word in the wake of the Old Testament Killing Spree.

Malachi 4

4 “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel.

5 “See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction.”

Here are the words of LORD Adonai (Christ) by comparison:

Matthew 11

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Compare this to his other words of loving enemies and doing good to all men. Compare this to the Fruit of the Spirit. Compare this to God being Love (1 John 4) and Love keeping NO records of wrongs (1 Corinthians 13).

RANT 4: Which is it? Do you come to bring MORE war, or peace? Are you a blessed peacemaker (sermon on the mount), or are you wanting to turn the hearts of the parents toward their children and children to their parents? I am confused by the contradictory language throughout. Matthew 10 does not square with the other angles you take.

Image of God

In Genesis 1, Elohim creates mankind in His image, BOTH male and female. Ruach Elohim was seen in Genesis 1 as the Feminine Spirit of God over the Waters. In Genesis 2, Elohim rested. Just after this, the Lord/Yahweh/Adonai shed the blood of Adam to create Eve (Female), then reproduced humanity under the rule of the Snake. Rant 5: Why are we under the Snake as a Master? Why did the Son create the Snake to be your own worst enemy? Why has the Son used us to kill each other in the name of killing out the Snake that brought death in the first place? Would it not be smarter to join our image back to that of BOTH male and female again, then killing out the snake yourself?

Rant 6: Why are you blaming Mankind for the mess you created? Before the coming war, please at least tell us why you are killing us so often. Our kids deserve an answer if you expect love from them.

Rant 7: ATS - Stop dividing yourselves against each other. Know the ONLY conspiracy and allow the truth to set you free. While you do this, help me find the answers to the rants above. We are all in this together as one humanity. If the Bible is Truth, then it should present itself to all of us who seek. Perhaps the truth is the lie we must overcome.

The rest of my upcoming threads will be attempts to find the holes in this story. I take a neutral stance in this by first defending one side before trying to tear it down. Truth should stand on its own two feet against my efforts. It doesn't need my help to stand. A good scientist will try to disprove his own proofs. That's my job for upcoming threads. By this, I will seek, find and adapt to the truth I can find.

Your Friend and fellow human.
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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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I am very much looking forward to the coming threads...

a reply to: AlephBet



posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: DuckforcoveR

We just need to ask the right question:

All of time and space; everything that can happen or ever will: where do you want to start? The first question that must never be answered; hidden in plain sight? It's his Golden Jubilee you know.



Heads back to his tartarus and never looks back. Did you ever pay attention to this show and it's themes? Always traveling with his female companion. Master of time and space. Savior of Earth. Himself the cause of problems suffered by humans. Identity unknown to himself. Regenerates again and again. Interesting. Wears a Fez dipped in the blood of Christians. Wears a bow for a tie. Thinks it's cool. His father and home world trapped in another dimension. Destroyed his own home world and his own species, only to discover they are still there.

What story is this show telling?


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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: DuckforcoveR

We just need to ask the right question:

All of time and space; everything that can happen or ever will: where do you want to start? The first question that must never be answered; hidden in plain sight? It's his Golden Jubilee you know.



Heads back to his tartarus and never looks back. Did you ever pay attention to this show and it's themes? Always traveling with his female companion. Master of time and space. Savior of Earth. Himself the cause of problems suffered by humans. Identity unknown to himself. Regenerates again and again. Interesting. Wears a Fez dipped in the blood of Christians. Wears a bow for a tie. Thinks it's cool. His father and home world trapped in another dimension. Destroyed his own home world and his own species, only to discover they are still there.

What story is this show telling?



not the one YOUR telling thats for sure hahahahaha...at least they can admit its fiction.



posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm



Fiction, or the only common thread running through all of our creative works throughout history? Why Jacob and Esau? What is he weaving. Why the fish? Why Anubis? Why the Sun Symbolism on the wall tapestry? Why Dark and Light? Why the temple? Why the Island trapping evil? What is their conversation about? Conclusion to the story? Fresh souls coming to the Island to fight? Why is it always the same from the words of the conversation?



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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: TzarChasm



Fiction, or the only common thread running through all of our creative works throughout history?



you gonna keep asking dumb questions or are you going to substantiate?

also, i feel like this "letters to the editor" thread is just another opportunity for you to plug the same stuff you've been posting. in other words, in the process of explaining why you are so repetitive and cryptic, you are being repetitive and cryptic. and i am not convinced that was not the sole purpose of this thread. more propaganda.
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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

No cryptic answers. Only the same story over and over again. We are on the island. I can't force anyone to see the answer.



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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Yahweh created the Snake. This error requires us to fix the problem. What allows the islanders to return to the Father and Mother at the end of the show?



Who created the show and why does the theme match my rant? Don't let the light in the center of our solar system go out; or the light in your heart for that matter. It's the reason for the story.




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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

why do you keep asking stupid questions when you are the only one who understands the "answers". you are a water wheel of pure non sequitor.
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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet


No cryptic answers. Only the same story over and over again. We are on the island. I can't force anyone to see the answer.


force? you're not even trying. pissing in the sand and insisting there is significance to the patterns it makes.



posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: AlephBet

why do you keep asking stupid questions when you are the only one who understands the "answers". you are a water wheel of pure non sequitor.


Maleficent (Queen of Heaven) roams the two worlds with her sidekick Devil the crow man. She puts the female of the King to sleep on her 16th birthday, only to then be the true love to wake her up in the end. She overcomes her own evil by learning from the human female. This is the same story over and over again. We have learned it from each and every story, including the Bible, for the last few thousand years. You think I know the answer? Not hardly. I am the one asking the questions. The King dies in this one and the prince and bride are joined by the Queen of Heaven. You should rent this one and watch the opening scene.



Note the finger of Harpocrates at the end when she asks if her true identity is that of Maleficent. Refuse to Shhhhh!


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posted on Nov, 9 2014 @ 07:33 PM
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Cuz the book is based off of scrolls left at Alexandria. Forged off of the previous religions that survived in the Area. Babylon controlled the area of Egypt for quite some time. All they way through *Israel*. The babylonians seperated in Egypt. Creating their own nation branching off of the summarian nations.

These new found Egyptians thus retold the legends of summaria but redefined them. The winged sundisc is quite clear evidence of this.

The Sphinxs ect.

Not saying that the babylonians Created the pyramids. Just saying they were squatting there for a while. Probably where the Sphinxs came from in babylonian civilzation was the discovery of these monuments becoming additions to their culture. As there is no other indication of why they would show the exact same stone figure personified in babylionian art.
it is not a coincidence. In fact it is readily known that Ra- The bird God of Egypt has depictions of him as a Lion. Or rather transforming into a Lion.

The very earliest *Egyptian* God was Aker. The Duelistic lion of the Horizon. Face west and east observing the night and day. Now pair all this knowledge up with references to the Lion of Judah, The general messiah like attributes mentioned in most verses with Lion in the bible.

You see, in the very begining. Everyone worshipped the Sphinx. The sphinx had Wings at one point. This is why the babylonians depicted it with wings. When the Egyptians broke away from the Babylonians. They came and attacked Egypt by force. During the battle the Sphinx was damaged. The winds were destroyed and the face suffered some damage.

And basically this religion has rehashed itself over and over into what it is today.

Constant religious conflicts have diluted the original monomyth. Even the Babylionians were confused over it and thus ended in its own self destruction.

What evidence of there is this? Well take it for it is. Some people worshipped snaked in babylion. And some people worshipped Felines and Canines. That's where the names such as Cannanites come from CANINE. CANNABIS, CANADA. ect. We still pay reverence to these aspects.

But never forget that we live on a planet. To focus on just one aspect of the rudimentary story is to cut off from the bigger picture.


We need to observe all cultures and their beliefs and histories to understand the Monomyth. The monomyth is the great Myth tieing everything together. The greater myth that has been forged despite geographic isolation.

Such monomyths as the Great flood. That is a mono myth. You bet cha butt its a monomyth.
As far as i know every culture continental native included have this same monomyth.

Non of these people who wrote this stuff had acess to otherwise pre-hidden knowledge.
They simply added onto what context already existed around 300 BC.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: AlephBet


You think I know the answer? Not hardly. I am the one asking the questions.


we are all asking questions. but i am happy to see that you finally admit you are not a reliable authority on the subject. we are all theorists on this site.
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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

I still think you have not read the OP.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: TzarChasm

I still think you have not read the OP.


i have, and the only part i really agree with is that we should take a good long hard look at the material. you seem to be preparing yourself for a critical approach although i cant be sure you are not just setting up long line of loopholes. youv spent too long sending your message to just turn around and start picking it apart now. although really how many holes do you need to be convinced that a boat wont float? duct tape wont fix this mess.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Only one. Christ must return and bring peace. Anything short of loving enemies will be a contradiction to his message of being a peacemaker and teacher. War is not education. Love dispels hate, not hate. I stated my goal in the OP.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: AlephBet
Only one.

Well then I found the ice berg to sink your unsinkable ship.



Christ must return and bring peace. Anything short of loving enemies will be a contradiction to his message of being a peacemaker and teacher.

Have you never read Revelations, or various other portions of the Bible that speak of the second coming? The only peace is for Christians. It's only achieved after the Lord's enemies are destroyed and cast into the lake of fire. That is most certainly contradictory and falls short of many of Christ's teachings about love and forgiveness.
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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: AlephBet
Only one.

Well then I found the ice berg to sink your unsinkable ship.



Christ must return and bring peace. Anything short of loving enemies will be a contradiction to his message of being a peacemaker and teacher.

Have you never read Revelations, or various other portions of the Bible that speak of the second coming? The only peace is for Christians. It's only achieved after the Lord's enemies are destroyed and cast into the lake of fire. That is most certainly contradictory and falls short of many of Christ's teachings about love and forgiveness.


His only enemy is the Snake he created. If you have read My Latest Threads Part 1c, then you will see who we are in relation to the Lord of the Hosts. The Lord of the Hosts (what we inhabit / human body) leads the Hosts below. As you can see from what I am showing in my many Yahweh threads, the story is not simply a contradiction. It has a clear and consistent point that only shows itself if you know all the parts. Clearly, the Virgin of the Word Fragment has a direct relation to Jude 1, Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch. I intend to show how the puzzle fits together. My rant is a disagreement I have with the process. Education trumps war. A Father's direct relationship and communication to a Son is also much preferred to War. Since I am not in possession of the correct presuppositions of truth, I can only speculate. This is true for all of us.

Keep following along. Yahweh paid our penalty (and his) on the cross. If we fail to value this amazing task, we miss the Love of Father and Mother for their Sons. He paid it all.

We must rest 1000 years from our work. Sabbath is necessary. This is the repose I list in Part 1c.


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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

No. I will not accept your plug for a new thread of your conjectures and presuppositions as a valid response to my post to you. You love using the scripture when it suits your purpose but ignore or twist it when it does not? You source other material and belief systems at times, and likewise twist those to fit your theories. Everything is a dot to you, and you will find a way to connect them, no ifs ands or buts. I am not a dog on a leash, anxiously waiting for your threads as if they are treats from a master. Your Monty Python logic is baffling at times. Enough of your diversions and advertisements.

So please, without referring me to any other threads, re-address my post.

You said:


Christ must return and bring peace. Anything short of loving enemies will be a contradiction to his message of being a peacemaker and teacher.

I pointed out that all throughout your holy book (that one with all the words you love to use as proof of intelligent design) death and destruction awaits those who are not Christians, or do not pass judgement, on the day of the second coming. Is this a case of you choosing to ignore those portions of the Bible because they don't fit your theories? Or find some apologetic reason why your God didn't mean what he said in his own book? When did he change his mind and decide not to come back full of wrath and vengeance?
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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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I already covered this in the OP. I said that I didn't know based on the comparison of Malachi 4 and Matthew 10. Did you read the OP. I stated it this way:

I SAID THIS: "Compare this to his other words of loving enemies and doing good to all men. Compare this to the Fruit of the Spirit. Compare this to God being Love (1 John 4) and Love keeping NO records of wrongs (1 Corinthians 13).

RANT 4: Which is it? Do you come to bring MORE war, or peace? Are you a blessed peacemaker (sermon on the mount), or are you wanting to turn the hearts of the parents toward their children and children to their parents? I am confused by the contradictory language throughout. Matthew 10 does not square with the other angles you take. "

As I stated, I am confused by the contradictory language throughout. The angles do not square with the right angles I see. I assume you have the same problem here. Yahweh has always been a contradiction to Christ, yet we sometimes see the same beast in the nature of each. Likewise, we sometimes see the compassion in Yahweh.




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