23 States now have complete Republican control

Here in Pa. The repubs have control of the legislature. Lost the governor race, mostly do to corbett,s handling of the sandusky/paterno mess.

a reply to: nwtrucker

US Constitution Article 6 Clause 2

EDIT: Sorry that's a one-liner which is forbidden by T&C.

I hope it's not to much to ask but could we get the conservative republican members; now that they have won a sizable victory;

Please quit playing the victim and stop whining. Or is that the position you are most comfortable in? Either way it's lame.

originally posted by: olaru12
I hope it's not to much to ask but could we get the conservative republican members; now that they have won a sizable victory.

Please quit playing the victim and stop whining. Or is that the position you are most comfortable in? Either way it's lame.

The Democrats will see to it.

I wonder if anyone who is cheerleading for the Red Congress and the Red Wave Legislatures to create all this new legislation is aware that until the GOP took control again they were wailing and gnashing teeth over "big government interference."

I guess Republicans and their supporters only dislike government when they're not in charge.

a reply to: Gryphon66

They have a lot of dismantling to do don't they.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, they do, and I'm excited to see it!

Go ACA repeal, go Social Security/Welfare/Medicare/Medicare repeal!

All the while talking about the Antichrist and how eclipses are signs of God's Wrath!

Hey, do you think they can pass a law to make it a standard in US Schools that the world is only 6000 years old?

Wouldn't that be SOMETHING?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

They have a lot of dismantling to do don't they.

What exactly do you see the GOP dismantling? Obamacare? Not a chance the insurance companies won't allow it. Who profits?


I do feel they will dismantle women's right to choose. Big mistake!

And make noises like they want to dismantle social programs; but that's also not going to happen.

What?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

They have a lot of dismantling to do don't they.

What exactly do you see the GOP dismantling? Obamacare? Not a chance the insurance companies won't allow it. Who profits?


I do feel they will dismantle women's right to choose. Big mistake!

And make noises like they want to dismantle social programs; but that's also not going to happen.

What?

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone that believes the GOP is actually going to act on the extremists hype they sell to their base is delusional. If they did, even their own base would cry foul as they rely on those very systems.

a reply to: olaru12

I took a break and watched some CFB..

Let's see Article 6 Clause 2...OK. The Republicans counter-argue that the points being 'nullified' are violations of the 1st, 2nd and 10th Amendments, etc.. End result? No decisive decision one way or the other. More 'grid-lock' and the nullifications continue unabated...

Next, your rhetoric re 6000 years, et al, is the usual 'last resort' type spin used by the left when they are out of reasonable, logical arguments. No basis in any political debate. Remember...separation of Church and State? ( Another one that caused the Democrat collapse)

As far as Obamacare goes, well the Obama bail-out of the insurance companies is now a non-starter. That being the case, the insurance companies will flip-flop and be delighted to get out of that legislation.

Defunding seems to be the biggest weapon in the Congressional arsenal. It will match Obama's veto power.

Grid-lock.

Back to individual state actions to disentangle from the Federal web.....( I hope.)

a reply to: nwtrucker

You don't even seem to know who you're arguing with, LOL. You are responding to my arguments not olaru's ... And as such.

Read some history. The southern states prior to the Civil War made the same arguments. That ended badly for them if I remember.

They made the same arguments again in the fifties and sixties to retain segregation. Lost that one too.

It's a silly argument. And no one who makes it can claim to love or support the Constitution because it is quite clear. And making the counter argument has been considered treason for over a hundred and fifty years.

You want to talk about a loss of things to talk about??? Oh my, creationist BS is the least of the Republicans worries. A demon hunter was elected to the Colorado state house ... He believes that male/male intercourse results in demons being born. lol

I wish I were scraping the bottom of the barrel but I sadly I think you'll find in the coming days that this kind or crap floats easily to the surface. In fact it's going to flow like a biblical flood ...

... And the Republicans are going to drown in it.

Your mileage may vary.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Gee, I guess the American people don't see it that way.

You position the Republicans with the south's attempt to break up the nation.

Yet, it's the activists in the Democrat party that have worked to 'change'/'improve'/reinvent the U.S..

The results have awoken enough voters that even left wing pundits are calling for 'reinventing'the democrat party. The very accusation you make of individual republicans have been proving out at all levels of the democrat party.

Executive privilege has been used unabated to cover Obama's track-many others as well.

These will come out, as you say, in the days ahead.

Mileage may vary? Sorry, the engine has blown. It is but a matter of time...tic, toc, tic toc.

a reply to: nwtrucker

In Obamas post election speech he mentioned , shuddering, several times the words about finding common ground in trade. I think the only common ground is going to further global trade.

originally posted by: beezzer
I'm afraid.


Anyone who survives that will starve to death because the republicans will deny them access to food or shelter.

Sounds about right.

a reply to: antar

One thing at a time....One thing at a time.

a reply to: nwtrucker

The American people? Riiight. You know as well as I do that neither the Republicans (nor the Democrats) have been elected by "the People." A third of the registered voters voted, and a little more than half of those voted Republican. Care to do that math?

I could have sworn that it was you that suggested the old saw of "nullification" was something new and different that no one has ever dealt with before. You suggested that it might be a tool used by the Republican-controlled State legislators to thumb their noses at American law, and that there might be some "debate" about an issue that was settled long long ago in American blood I might add on both "sides' of that useless conflict.

Only a few extremists still cling to the idea, and if they persist, they will likely meet the fate of all traitors.

So, now you're listening to "the media" ... suddenly they're trustworthy and right on target when they're saying something you want to hear? Fine, let the Democrats "reinvent" themselves.

Executive privilege has been used to cover WHAT tracks? Be exact. What is the President covering up exactly?

Bah, skip it. You won't answer because there's not an answer. Obama hasn't misused Executive Privilege; he hasn't even used it as much as some Presidents have. Check out your undoubted idol Mr. Reagan, or FDR ... now there were some virtual tyrants worth the titles.

But then coincidentally, they were both considered by history to have saved the country in their given times. I wonder how history will see Mr. Obama?

But you're correct, it IS a matter of time. It is a matter until this "new crop" of Republicans start praying in the public square, invoking God's wrath on their perceived enemies, trying to dismantle science, education and anything else that speaks reason to the voices they hear in their heads. I wonder if testimony will come up at the Impeachment proceedings testifying that Obama is demon-possessed, or the Antichrist or the Mahdi or whatever insanity broils just beneath the surface of these good Christian soldiers that have been sent on to the Capitol?

Here's something you may have not thought of. What if the Democrats decided to let the Republicans loose to do exaclty what they're going to do ... reveal exactly what rabid statists they really are when the kid-gloves come off and they believe their own echo chamber that no one is ever going to threaten their "power" again. With "a hundred year victory" rattling around their heads.

As I've said before ... I'm EXCITED.

I hope to see exorcisms on the Senate floor spread on C-SPAN and then around the world, certainly no later than early spring.

Let's let the freak flags fly! LOL.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Wow!

We shall see how this plays out and who ends up labeled "traitors".

But truth be told, I actually question you being 'excited'. I suspect it's actually fear.

a reply to: nwtrucker

There are activists in the Democratic party? I'd be hard pressed to find Democrats that aren't centrists... at best. The term "activist" is really finding new meaning around here. Kind of like how "socialist" found brand new meaning as well.

a reply to: okrian

I see your point. A poor choice of words on my part.

I'd agree on 'socialism' as well. Each according to his needs is workable in a family unit. Perhaps even a community. It tends to impose itself more and more the larger the group and takes on a negative reaction when one isn't a willing participant. LOL.

That's part of the reason I'm drawn to the nullification option.

Those that like the Federal direction can maintain it. Those that don't can opt out. It's called freedom of choice. No reason to even have 'States' without that, is there?

If a state wants to legalize marrying a billy-goat, fine with me. Just don't impose it on me or my state.

originally posted by: nwtrucker




If a state wants to legalize marrying a billy-goat, fine with me. Just don't impose it on me or my state.

There's no such thing as states rights in a Corporate oligarchy. If there's a dime to be made from billy goat unions; it would be mandated with an amendment to the constitution before you could say "baaa"