Polar Vortex to Blast 200 Million People With Arctic Air

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Regardless of whether or not man-made climate change is real, using day to day weather patterns to prove your point about your position on climate change is VERY ignorant. Weather and climate aren't the same thing.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Not the same study but here is a link to what looks like the same info. www.sciencebits.com...


This is the same basic idea but the author of thus page still cites co2 as a major factor. The Japanese study did not.

Thermal undies ? Check.
Gas in the snowblower ? Check.
Snow shovels at the front door and back door ? Check.
Rub A535 for the aching muscles ? Check.
Big pot of chicken noodle soup on the stove ? Check.


Bring it on baby.

a reply to: CranialSponge

I freaking love snow i lived in the mountains of Colorado once, and miss it sometimes the snow would fall so heavily it would go silent everywhere but it was a beautiful silence and not lonely. To me it was like an angle choir, and before it would snow a deep fog would devolpe and its finngers would wrap around mountains slowly creeping forward. It was majestic, after moving back to Texas i became a weather hobbyist and now love meteorology, i appreciate all weather but i miss the snow, though this year could be Texas year, infact the models are hinting st a snowstorm in texas next weekend.

a reply to: HardCorps

Thats it Im going to Iraq just to avoid this one.

a reply to: TechniXcality

El Nino has not a whole lot to do with this as it is uncertain as to whether even what is going on can be counted as an El Nino. Borderline El Nino at best according to the Washington Post and Slate as of yesterday. Pretty sure that is a negatory of this being "everything to do with El Nino".

Washington Post: NOAA Decreases Odds for El Nino Again--What's the deal?

www.slate.com...

Last year the vortex was nasty here. I am trying to find some alternative ways of heating as last year it was up to $13 a day for our 3 bedroom home. I'm considering venting the dryer hose inside, and possibly space heaters instead of running the whole system. If any one has any tips . Please pm me. Hopefully this is just part of changing weather patterns and not here for the whole winter.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Regardless of whether or not man-made climate change is real, using day to day weather patterns to prove your point about your position on climate change is VERY ignorant. Weather and climate aren't the same thing.

Yeah I know, I was responding to one of the posts from a member and not the O.P. Hence, once I realised it looked like a reply to the O.P and not the member's post, I thought I'd better make a comment about it.

Nice bitch slap effort though, cheers

a reply to: WhiteAlice

No this is certainly due to el nino im on a cell phone and ill post links to nws. It has not been official announced but ocean temps are above normal and models are indicating a weak to moderate el nino. The extratropical storm and epac storminess is a direct result.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Maybe our oceans are warming because of the volcanic activity both in and out of the oceans?

I still say the Sun/ Space Weather.. controls our weather and geological activities.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Oh sorry. I wasn't trying to be mean. My language may have been a bit harsh, but I wasn't trying to "bitch slap" you or anything. I just wanted to point out that just because it is getting colder, doesn't mean that the climate is changing or that man is or isn't causing it.

I just get a bit annoyed when I see people trying to make that parallel, even if they are trying to be funny.

originally posted by: byGRACE
Last year the vortex was nasty here. I am trying to find some alternative ways of heating as last year it was up to $13 a day for our 3 bedroom home. I'm considering venting the dryer hose inside, and possibly space heaters instead of running the whole system. If any one has any tips . Please pm me. Hopefully this is just part of changing weather patterns and not here for the whole winter.

Venting the dryer into the house would be a very bad idea. You'd get a lot of excess moisture and dust in the air leading to mold, mildew, and breathing problems especially if someone in the house already has asthma or something.

If you own your home insulation is the way to go. Or if you don't heat or insulate yourself before your house. That's what I do in the house we rent and the gas bill gets too high. Turn the heat down and put more clothes on.

originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: WhiteAlice

Maybe our oceans are warming because of the volcanic activity both in and out of the oceans?

I still say the Sun/ Space Weather.. controls our weather and geological activities.

Personally I think space is probably the largest contributing factor in climate change. The Earh's climate has warmed and cooled since the atmosphere first developed, there is evidence in Earth's geology to support this.

But as there is very little solid knowledge regarding this, scientists have pinned it on CO2 and methane generated by Man as the sole reason. This in turn keeps the floodgates open on Carbon taxes, with a percentage being paid to the scientists who provide the data, to continue their research.

Or from a conspiracy angle, maybe the scientists do know more than they're telling the Government and they do know that space has an effect on the Earth's climate. How long would the grants remain available then?

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: WhiteAlice

No this is certainly due to el nino im on a cell phone and ill post links to nws. It has not been official announced but ocean temps are above normal and models are indicating a weak to moderate el nino. The extratropical storm and epac storminess is a direct result.

I've looked and not seen any reports of this being a weak to moderate El Nino via the NWS but there's a whole lot stuffed on that site. The briefing page is still showing the La Nina/El Nino status as being neutral. It could be that it is a weak El Nino event but they've been downgrading the possibility of an official El Nino this year.

I'll keep poking around for it but all I've seen relating to El Nino/La Nina status is that it's neutral on the briefing page so far. Haven't seen any other reference in the updates to El Nino. Like I said though, I'll keep poking around.

originally posted by: byGRACE
Last year the vortex was nasty here. I am trying to find some alternative ways of heating as last year it was up to $13 a day for our 3 bedroom home. I'm considering venting the dryer hose inside, and possibly space heaters instead of running the whole system. If any one has any tips . Please pm me. Hopefully this is just part of changing weather patterns and not here for the whole winter.

Since insulating your house is most likely unattainable in the time frame required, here is a few things to consider trying:

Tape a cellophane membrane over your windows, go all the way past the casing a great deal of air infiltration occurs between the frame of the window and the framing of the house.

Tape all of your base boards where applicable. Can't really tape to carpet, but do what you can.

Stuff insulation around any doors you can go without using. Tape over the insulation (between slab and frame, as well as frame and wall). Don't forget to get some between the door slab and the threshold, if your door does not have a sweep. If it has a sweep, most are adjustable, so make sure it is adjusted for continuous contact.

Tape any attic hatches, unsealed light fixtures, etc.

Basically, if it penetrates the envelope, consider it suspect and insulate and tape where you can.

If you have the time and/or inclination, get a decent quality CLOSED CELL spray foam to inject where you can. Make sure it is CLOSED CELL.

Depending on your house, check the cavity between the concrete footer and the lumber floor joists...they rarely get insulated properly in new construction, and are usually devoid of insulation in older construction. If your furnace is in the basement, that cavity around the perimeter of the house usually accounts for more than 50% of the energy losses.

Also, make sure that your attic vents properly (soffit to peak) and that it has insulation. A properly insulated and vented attic will keep you warmer in the cold and cooler in the hot.

Finally, if you are so inclined, get new windows, doors, and insulation. With the windows and doors, target Energy Start Zone D as a base and ask about modifying it for local conditions (cooler climates are orientated to keep energy in, warmer climates are orientated to keep energy out). That modification is generally a no cost item, as it is really just a change in which glazing layer gets the appropriate coatings.

a reply to: MamaJ

You are correct that the sun and quite possibly other things in space do affect our weather. It's like the question of whether the Little Ice Age was related to a Maunder Minimum of the sun. It all combines together. I think that is also something to keep in mind is that the scientists working with this stuff know that and are still stating the anthropogenic connection to warming oceans. They're not ignoring it. In fact, I've seen papers discussing whether certain changes in other aspects will offset warming.

The discussions that go on in the research papers about the weather is not nearly as simplified as what the media makes it seem.

a reply to: Kuroodo

In other words, we will all have weather?

Gosh, if only the world were climate controlled like our office buildings ...

all these are before the polar vortex moves south.. and as another poster said, it is" Global" wx change; if these headlines are to be believed the global community may be in for a record setting winter..

Last winter in S.E. Asia it actually got down to the low 60s or high 50s during the night... I was looking for an electric heater.... None to be found..

iceagenow.info...

More than 40,000 customers lost power in Pietarsaari, Uusikaarlepyy, Vöyri, Oravais and Kruunupyy areas on Wednesday morning.

Meanwhile, a temperature reading of minus 25 degrees Celsius was recorded at Kevojärvi in Utsijoki following a cold wave on Tuesday night.

2nd largest snow cover in Siberia in 47 years

Ski resorts in the Alps could get up to 5 meters (16.4 feet) of snow


US polar vortex dead ahead
By Robert On November 6, 2014 · 20 Comments

Temperatures expected to plunge 10- to 20-degrees below normal.


“Why is it Cooling So Fast?” asks Dr Sircus
By Robert On November 6, 2014 · 18 Comments

Increased volcanic activity is one of the culprits, he answers.


Record cold in Florida as far south as Key West
By Robert On November 6, 2014 · 3 Comments

Miami, West Palm Beach, Naples, Key West, all broke previous records.


Iran – Snow and ice storm traps 2,000 people (IRAN)
By Robert On November 5, 2014 · 4 Comments

A Red Cross Rescue spokesman said that the snowfall and blizzard in 11 provinces had crippled 2000 people.


Heavy snowfall in Turkey – 36 village roads closed
By Robert On November 5, 2014 · 2 Comments

50 cm (20 inches) of snow in Artvin. On a plateau near Rize a car was stuck in 2 meters of snow.

iceagenow.info...

Indianapolis – First measured snow on Halloween in 124 years
By Robert On November 4, 2014 · 4 Comments

Temperatures that made it feel like the end of December made for an awful Halloween night in central Indiana.

www.bloomberg.com...
Harsh Winter Outlook Made a Bit More Dire by Siberia Snow

About 14.1 million square kilometers of snow blanketed Siberia at the end of October, the second most in records going back to 1967, according to Rutgers University’s Global Snow Lab. The record was in 1976, which broke a streak of mild winters in the eastern U.S. In addition, the speed at which snow has covered the region is the fastest since at least 1998.

a reply to: 727Sky

Don't forget that the Great Lakes never quite recovered from last year's near freeze. They are starting this season colder than they started last one.

Oh great.

Global warming disappoints me so much.