Massachusetts Students Suspended For Holding Airsoft Guns In Picture Taken At HOME.

a reply to: hogstooth

Ok I'll have to clarify a little...I personally don't care that they (or anyone else) took a pic with their guns and added that caption. It's just that I'm not surprised that students and parents were concerned. People will always take things out of context or find something to complain about, but complaints about this picture shouldn't surprise anyone with the heightened sensitivity. Lol my school was pretty much the same way, but no one ever mentioned it because it was so common.

And ProfessorChaos, the public is definitely being conditioned for this type of thing, which would obviously be a way for them to slowly chip away at the second amendment. They'll sit back and wait for incidents like this to take place, and when enough people are complaining they'll use it as momentum to limit or abolish certain rights.

originally posted by: hogstooth
a reply to: armed10peasant

I actually understand the disruption it caused, because at first glance, it doesn't look much different than the AR-15 I have. No one would've given it a second thought if they weren't dressed in formal wear along with that caption.

They went to the dance after taking the photo, sans guns. No violence ensued or any disruption at the event. It wasn't until the following monday that students and parents were "concerned".

From the article:

School officials say the dance Friday was uneventful, but people Monday in school were fearful and parents were concerned.

So we now have gotten to the point where 2 happy looking kids taking a homecoming picture holding airsoft guns are scary. Sad sad world we live in.

On a sidenote, during hunting season when I was in high school our principal was ok with us coming in straight from the hunt rifles and all. We just had to make sure they were unloaded and leave them in his office during school hours. What a stark contrast.

This is the damned reason the situation is so screwed up.

Every freaking moronic entity or organization who cant comprehend timing as being pertinent to the situation deserves to be punished themselves.

This type of irresponsible interpretation/representation of events should be appalling...but hell no. The picture is much more disturbing.

Its a dumb #ing world we live in...embrace it.

a reply to: baburak

Lol. I've commented how Land of the Free, Home of the Brave is long dead numerous times in other threads. Maybe it's time for Americans to wake up. The government isn't going to inform you if their plan to screw all of you

It's not like this stuff is new. Every time my work gives a kid a potato gun at work we warn them to not being it to school. If you can be suspended for a pop tart bit into the shape of a gun and you can be fired from a job or kicked off a sports team because of undesirable things on a Facebook, isn't it obvious posing with guns is a bad idea.

In this day and age this story is not even slightly shocking. We have kids getting their heads blown off by cops and you people are up in arms over this.

Absolutely laughable.

Guns . com

ABC’s World News anchor, David Muir spent the day with Katie, putting together a sort of “Day in the Life” piece for the special segment. Muir talked with Katie about growing up, the camera crew followed her to school, they talked with her family and, of course, they filmed her shooting at her grandfather’s farm.

“Katie’s story is unique in that she has not only her family, but a community, rallying behind her,” Muir said, who was particularly struck by a photo of Katie which appeared on her Facebook page and featured the teen dressed up for a school dance while holding a rifle. “It’s this juxtaposition of images that makes Katie a charming and interesting young woman,” he said.

Katelyn Francis before homecoming. (Photo credit: Facebook)

This is from a story about Katie Francis, posted on 10/18/2013 to Guns.com. ABC News wrote the original article. I don't recall any outrage after this photo was posted on Katie's Facebook page. Would've never heard about it if not posted on Guns.com website. NOTE: This is a REAL firearm.

Should the school she attends, go back and retroactively take action against this young woman, if they were not aware of this at the time? Or should they act as they did, knowing full well the parent's were involved, as they were in the case of the two kids in the current situation? The guns the two in the OP were holding, are TOY's.

This quote from DustbowlDebutante say's it better than I can.

And the schools need to come to grips with the fact that they DO NOT OWN OUR CHILDREN! When my son is with me, in my care and custody, I will decide what is appropriate for him to do. The only thing they should concern themselves with is his behavior while he is at school!!!

The madness never ends!

a reply to: retiredTxn

People should visit guns.com period.

If it weren't for that site many of the exemplary cases of responsible gun use and "good guys" fighting back...and winning would be buried and forgotten. Hidden and ignored by the MSM.

Its good that they also report cases of IRRESPONSIBLE gun owners and criminals alike.

That being said and in topic with what you stated? Of course it wasn't given equal treatment. That's the upsetting point of it all. The media and dumbass parents alike think they have the right to pick and choose what's offensive or controversial.

That's the difference though. Our rights to equal treatment are trumped when we believe differently than those who dictate the criticism.

If the two students were, black, muslim and gay would they have been subjected to the same amount of scrutiny? I can't say for sure but Id bet my left one they wouldn't have. And I only have 2 of those.

I guess kids are different now than when I was in school. If we were subject to this zero tolerance BS we would have the school on lockdown everyday. It would be "pew! pew!" finger gun fights every day all day in every class until the stupidity ended. What would they do, suspend everyone? Send the entire student body to the mental hospital? If virtually everyone did it what could the school system possibly do? If it happened in every school in every state on the same day, what would happen then?

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

So let me get this straight.

Schools can ban Christian based clubs, Govt can force schools to accept Gay based clubs, Schools can't mention or teach Jesus but can mention and teach Mohammad, and now schools can suspend a child for a photo taken inside the private home of a US citizen because of a toy firearm???


Mass, you and CA need to just break off and become your own country. Take NY and NJ with you.


What a F*&%ing joke.

That sounds about right to me.

Homosexuality is not a religion meaning it isn't constitutionally unacceptable at a school.

Schools can't teach Jesus because he has no actual basis in real history. Mohammed clearly does. No one is preaching or converting to Islam in the classroom. They are teaching history. They teach history of Christianity in school too. Did you even go to school?

The whole photos/Facebook thing is pretty normal now. Kids get kicked off sports teams for drinking and putting pictures up. People lose jobs over racist posts on Facebook. This isn't new.

And secession at the end lol. What a proud American you are. Secessionism is the definition of anti American. How about the bible belt joins the 21st century? Stop hating on gays, blacks and Muslims. Stop showing off or acting tough by bringing your gun to the grocery store or posing with it.

These kids don't deserve what they got but they had to know it was a possibility. This is far from worth so much rage. There's far worse things happening in America than a 10 day suspension.

Personally, I think I would have added another caption to the effect of:

"For the stupid looking at this photo, these are AIRSOFT soft-plastic pellet guns....and totally legal. Also, as you can see, we have been properly trained in their use as our fingers are NOT on the triggers.....DUH!"

a reply to: Krakatoa

Great idea. Products come with all sorts of retarded warning labels now. I guess we can't rely on people to look into things or act rationally anymore.

These kids should engage in some personal responsibility.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
If that's the picture they tagged as homecoming then hell yeah the school has an issue with them.
Crazies have written their intentions in diaries and then gone out and shot up a school. Columbine comes to mind. Maybe it's nothing probably it's nothing but there is precedents for stuff like that. a reply to: NthOther

But they didn't do anything. Department of precrime?

a reply to: NavyDoc

The people who cry foul over this only care because it's happy white kids. If they were black with fake Glocks they'd be thugs.

Department of precrime? Treyvon Martin knows about that.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Doc didn't you know, your thoughts are not your own anymore. They are the property of the collective. Just like having to label hot coffee as HOT with a warning label (DUH, it's frigging hot coffee moron, and you ordered and paid for it) for the stupid who never learned to think for themselves, because they let the collective do that for them.

Those same thoughtless morons now are in postions of authority......

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: NavyDoc

The people who cry foul over this only care because it's happy white kids. If they were black with fake Glocks they'd be thugs.

Department of precrime? Treyvon Martin knows about that.

Okay, that's a bit of a leap. Both events have nothing to do with each other.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

But they didn't do anything. Department of precrime?

More like the Department of Perceived Crime As An Afterthought! The school didn't know about the post until after the homecoming. Whatever happened to common sense?

originally posted by: tavi45


Schools can't teach Jesus because he has no actual basis in real history. Mohammed clearly does.

You have got to be joking.

Please, tell me what the punchline is, so you don't confirm your a fool.

originally posted by: tavi45
No one is preaching or converting to Islam in the classroom. They are teaching history. They teach history of Christianity in school too. Did you even go to school?

They do in fact teach the history of Christianity?? really?
Like what, the Spanish Inquisition? Or maybe the Monks flogging themselves/each other in mass conga lines during the Bubonic Plague?

Really......please do tell us your punchlines...

a reply to: ProfessorChaos

except homecoming can also refer to the actual home.

LOL...freaking city slicking yankees. Never cease to amaze me with the minutia that they single out for additional attention.

On a sidenote, during hunting season when I was in high school our principal was ok with us coming in straight from the hunt rifles and all. We just had to make sure they were unloaded and leave them in his office during school hours. What a stark contrast.

i was thinking the same thing. when i was in high school, kids brought shotguns and hunting rifles to school hanging on the back window of their trucks. (during hunting season). wasn't uncommon to go out to my friend's truck and check out his gun, hunting license, and gear. no one ever worried about it. in the twenty two years that i lived in that town, not one incident of violence at the school.

we live in a different world.

a reply to: macman

There's no real evidence of Jesus or Moses besides secondary and tertiary sources. Mohammed was 100% a real human being.

Believing your mythology does not make it fact. People thought Zeus was a real guy. Socrates got executed over it.

I mean what would you include in the history of Christianity? The bible is not history. It starts with the rise of the religion in the Roman empire, it's acceptance by Constantine and goes from there. Are you saying the crusades and Spanish Inquisition didn't happen?