Hagel orders 21-day quarantine for all military personnel returning from Ebola mission in West Afric

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has ordered all military personnel returning from Ebola response missions in West Africa to be kept in a 21-day quarantine.

Hagel signed the order Wednesday morning, according to the Pentagon, accepting a recommendation from the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Hagel orders 21-day quarantine for all military personnel returning from Ebola mission in West Africa

things that make you say Hmm. just saw this not much there.

no 21-day quarantine for Doctors, Nurses, and others. but the troops will have to.
this administration is so disorganized it sad.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie
This was already posted HERE
You posted this twice some how

there was just a quick little report on the news about it, they said i think there will be a press conference later.
i was trying to beat the crowd so my attention was divided looking for the headline.

like i said if the troops who are not even suppose to be in contact/ or very little contact with the people have ebola.
why do they have to be quarantined and not others who are in direct contact.

a reply to: gmoneystunt

that one is mine, it's a double post.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Nurses and doctors dont need to follow guidelines. No. The military does things for no reason is all. They are scared and ignorant.

This is getting to be insane. People will be lynching doctors if they get people sick after ignoring the mandatory quarantine. Just saying.

beezer posted this in a DP i asked to be closed, i want him to get credit for it.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie
Never thought I'd see the White House give inept, a bad name. What, pray tell, would be the reasoning?

beezer's post

a reply to: tadaman

well, i don't know about all of the other, but i do agree with this.

This is getting to be insane. People will be lynching doctors if they get people sick after ignoring the mandatory quarantine. Just saying.

congress need to do a emergency vote and pass a quarantine, when obuma veto it over ride his veto and show him that he is wrong.

Doctors go to Ebola stricken places voluntarily. The administration doesn't want to stop that, they love the humanitarian press. So they leave the Docs/RN's alone to come home and infect others. The spreading of the infection and anger resulting is put on the Docs and RN's mostly, not the government. As the medical personnel "should have known better"


However, the military troops were ordered to go to Ebola hot zones, they were forced to go and probably threatened if they refused to go. If they come home infected and angry, they have nothing to lose in saying, "I was forced by Obama to go and now I'm dying because of him." Awful, awful press. So send them to Italy (for quarantine, all of them, just in case) and when they die, quietly change the cause to something like the flu or malaria (I KNOW the government does stuff like this, I typed up documents for the US in the 70's to families that did stuff like this). This way the Prez can say, see sending troops into Ebola areas is safe and aren't we the wonderful country who sent in all this help.

Excuse me but this is not news.

I don't care which bobblehead is saying it today.

Why the HELL are they pretending this is NEWS? To save the CDC and WH face?

This has BEEN the policy since they deployed to Africa. There are military in quarantine now.

Military defends its Ebola precautions as stricter than CDC’s, tries to reassure troop

What might be news is the last post in the thread above. These people are idiots.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
beezer posted this in a DP i asked to be closed, i want him to get credit for it.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie
Never thought I'd see the White House give inept, a bad name. What, pray tell, would be the reasoning?

beezer's post

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Erm.

At least our Military has some sane people in it at the top. Now we need to get sane people in the White house and to run the CDC and FDA

a reply to: ~Lucidity

what is news is that they will have to face a mandatory quarantine, not as per your posted quote.

No U.S. troops will directly treat Ebola patients, but the Pentagon’s guidelines, released Oct. 10, call for troops who deploy to western Africa to monitor their temperature twice a day. Those who report potential exposure to the virus will be subject to additional evaluations by medical professional designated by the Defense Department.
In the 10 days before leaving Africa, commanders have the authority to keep troops in a controlled environment where they can receive additional monitoring. Once they have left Africa, individuals with no known exposure must continue to monitor their temperature for 21 days. Those who are removed from Africa due to an elevated exposure risk must be quarantined for 21 days for closer monitoring.

this says to me that unless the showed signs it would be up to the commander to decide. this order takes that away.

and the whitehouse and cdc still say there should be no mandatory quarantine, unless that changes later on.

to your next post, i would have done the same for you if your post agreed with me.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: ~Lucidity

what is news is that they will have to face a mandatory quarantine, not as per your posted quote.

No U.S. troops will directly treat Ebola patients, but the Pentagon’s guidelines, released Oct. 10, call for troops who deploy to western Africa to monitor their temperature twice a day. Those who report potential exposure to the virus will be subject to additional evaluations by medical professional designated by the Defense Department.
In the 10 days before leaving Africa, commanders have the authority to keep troops in a controlled environment where they can receive additional monitoring. Once they have left Africa, individuals with no known exposure must continue to monitor their temperature for 21 days. Those who are removed from Africa due to an elevated exposure risk must be quarantined for 21 days for closer monitoring.

this says to me that unless the showed signs it would be up to the commander to decide. this order takes that away.

and to your next post, i would have done the same for you if your post agreed with me.

It's ALWAYS been mandatory. I swear most of you either just don't read or just don't give a crap.

What part of "defends its Ebola precautions as stricter than CDC’s," do you not get?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

what do you not under stand about these words.

Those who report potential exposure to the virus will be subject to additional evaluations by medical professional designated by the Defense Department.

or these

commanders have the authority to keep troops in a controlled environment

that doesn't say every soldier has to . it says "have the authority" . in other words it is up to the individual commanders to decide if 10 days before they leave, if they have to go into a 21 day quarantine whether or not they show symptoms . not they have to.
that choice has been taken away and each and every soldier will have to go into quarantine. you seem to be the one that has a comprehension problem.

Looks like the duplicate post got deleted so I'll recap our exchange in a quick version here. I argued that two states were ordering 21-day quarantines for healthcare workers. You observed that that was the states' decision when Obama has stated that he would not enforce 21-day quarantines on returning healthcare workers and ergo, Hagel's 21-day quarantine personnel was treating the military one way and civilians another. Fair recap?

Yes, it is different. However, Hagel approved the 21-day quarantine on military personnel returning from W. Africa based on the recommendations of all of the joint chiefs of staff. Essentially, both Hagel and those joint chiefs all agreed to play it safe and quarantine those soldiers just in case.

When Obama said that he wasn't going to enforce a 21-day quarantine on returning healthcare workers basically meant that he was not going to issue an executive order dictating quarantines to the CDC (which IS in his power as the executive) in regards to that. He's essentially "staying out of it" and leaving it as an agency/state position. Odds are, he's also not going to go against Hagel and the joint chiefs in this because, well, that would be a really stupid move politically as he'd be dismissing the recommendations of those joint chiefs AND Hagel on an issue that is hotly debated.

Obama could write an executive order that puts anyone coming from W. Africa in quarantine for 21-days. By not doing so, he's essentially staying out of whether an individual is going to be quarantined or not. Whether that is a smart move or not politically depends on the position of the viewer. For some, it's going to look like he's not doing anything to protect the public from Ebola and for others, he's going to be viewed as being pragmatic.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

yes on all accounts.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Soldiers are under a contract they abide by the laws and regulations of the military code of conduct, now the "civilian" are a different brand the get to complain and make law sues because the government can not get its head out of their arses and put a set of regulations for them

Now when it comes to DOD personnel civilian or military, nurses or doctors, they had to follow the same rules.

a reply to: marg6043

all that is true, but we are told that troops have no or little contact to with the infected.
so if they should have to face a 21 day quarantine, why should the ones that have direct contact not have to?

make no sense, not to have the ones with the higher risk not be under quarantined, and the ones with the lower risk placed under one.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: marg6043

all that is true, but we are told that troops have no or little contact to with the infected.
so if they should have to face a 21 day quarantine, why should the ones that have direct contact not have to?

make no sense, not to have the ones with the higher risk not be under quarantined, and the ones with the lower risk placed under one.

Read my post above, the answer is quite clear PR (public relations) and politics.

Trust me, NO soldiers will die from Ebola, although quite a few might die from malaria