More Than 2 Million License Plates Scanned at Mall Of America in Past 90 Days

a reply to: whyamIhere

Oh really they need a warrant to write down your plate in the computer they got on patrol to check it?

This is what the thing is supposed to do check plates automatically instead of having the cop doing it manually, but you all like the propaganda of the tv making it sound more insidious in the eternal search for ratings.

a reply to: jude11

They're feeding this news out just a month before holiday shopping kicks into high gear, so they must not be as concerned with privacy advocates as they are with people feeling "safe" while shopping at MoA. Obviously they want to get the message out that it is safe and secure to shop there.

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: Indigent

The mall's allowed to access it for consumer research purposes.

Who parks where, what days, what models, where they shop, what they buy, duration of stays, etc, etc.

That bothers me too. It's like the internet. I don't need ads to look up the weather.

Except when it's the Police scanning plates.

Peace

a reply to: jude11

Hey Jude, I'll try and not let You down.... I appreciate the time You took to share this with Us here and instead of just jotting down My reply I read all the replies up to here and many valid points were brought up.

I'll take from it a "positive" in 90 days at least 2 million folks got out to 'simulate an economy' so either ebola hasn't made it up there, (careful "they" will be selling 'cold air' as a cure...) or folks are "prepping" with the latest from Gottschalks™ and HobbyLobby™ ???

I've got an invalid MIL and 2 old dogs so I'm banking on "Faith" but best of luck to the rest who'd 'want' to Live like that...

namaste

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: whyamIhere

Oh really they need a warrant to write down your plate in the computer they got on patrol to check it?

This is what the thing is supposed to do check plates automatically instead of having the cop doing it manually, but you all like the propaganda of the tv making it sound more insidious in the eternal search for ratings.

It's a search.

And, you have no idea what they do with the data.

Never, have we made bulk collections like this.

But that is just the beginning...Look at this thread from a year ago.

32 Million Data Collection Points in San Diego Alone

Getting the data without probable cause = violation of civil rights. Sharing the data, I'm not sure what crime that would be but it's morally wrong. I wonder when Walmart, Best Buy and other big box stores and malls will start doing this if they haven't already. Bastards all of 'em.

If you read the state laws you will find the plate belongs to the state.

Them picking a site with heavy traffic and setting up a scanning system is a way to make money just like red light cameras or speed cameras.

No insurance, expired registration, unpayed tickets, are what they are looking for. with the side benefit of catching stolen cars.

originally posted by: StoutBroux
Getting the data without probable cause = violation of civil rights. Sharing the data, I'm not sure what crime that would be but it's morally wrong. I wonder when Walmart, Best Buy and other big box stores and malls will start doing this if they haven't already. Bastards all of 'em.

They have...

Unless you pay cash they know everything you purchased.

That's why they ask for your phone number or a savings card.

I hope a murder doesn't happen next door and it was cleaned up with bleach.

And, you bought bleach last week and to save 13 cents you gave them your savings card.

You might need to lawyer up...

a reply to: jude11

That my friend is the tip of the iceberg.

Here you will find a thread I wrote back in 2011 about some of the goings on at the Mall of America.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell

a reply to: jude11

They have been doing this for years at casinos I have worked at there looking for those with warrants one group of cops scan license plates another group is with casino surveillance. The find a plate with warrants then they attempt to locate them in the casino then they bum rush them arresting them.

This is Merica!

I'm pretty sure they tow any plate tied to a warrant as well, its all about revenue.

originally posted by: CraftBuilder
a reply to: Indigent

I don't need them keeping a record of where I am specifically moment to moment.

You might if you get wrongly accused of a crime.

I'm sure there plenty of cameras there too, why no complaining about them?